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Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:41 PM

An attempt of a proof.

God is defined as infinite. Infinitely strong, infinitely, wise, infinitely perfect, whatever.

Infinite.

The problem with infinity is that it is a perfectly fine and workable concept on a mathematical/logical/philosophical level, but not on a physical level. That is why all proofs for God's existence are entirely mathematical/logical/philosophical, not physical.

It is not possible to prove any infinity on a physical, experimental, empirical level. It is ON PRINCIPLE impossible to experimentally determine whether something is infinitely big or infinitely small:
1. No instrument has an infinitely large scale to measure against and no instrument has an infinitely small resolution to measure against.
2. For simple statistical reasons (the math of statistical moments), the only way to accurately describe a physical entity/system, is with an infinitely large data-set. No finite data-set can ever accurately describe what a physical system truly is like. It can approximate physical reality (which is the underlying logical reason behind the whole "scientific method", but it can never accurately describe it.

So...

It is not possible to determine via a physical experiment whether a person/entity/thing is infinite/God.
It is not possible to determine via a physical experiment whether or not God does or doesn't exist.
Another infinite person/entity/thing could maybe determine whether or not God exists, but a finite physical experiment can not do that.

And this is a problem for God. Being infinitely strong, infinitely wise, infinitely perfect is a MASSIVE problem for God.

God is supposed to be perfect. If the existence of a thing is not experimentally provable, then how can it be perfect?



God can either be infinitely strong/wise/whatever or infinitely perfect, but not both.

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DetlefK Apr 2020 OP
gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #1
A HERETIC I AM Apr 2020 #2
rurallib Apr 2020 #3
ThisIsNotGreat Aug 2020 #4
uriel1972 Aug 2020 #5
rurallib Aug 2020 #6
OriginalGeek Aug 2020 #7

Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 06:18 PM

1. First Cheney then Trump prove there is no God.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 06:47 PM

2. As it says in my sig line....

" A god whose existence is impossible to demonstrate shares the exact same attributes as a god that does not exist.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 11:52 AM

3. I always love the folks who say "There had to be a God to create everything"

To which the obvious question is "Then who created God?"

I have never understood why some people feel as if they need to know how everything began. I guess coming up with some BS story of how things began makes them feel superior. I say who cares how it started, let's understand as best we can that what is here.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:36 PM

4. proof

There is tangible proof of God, but then I would be posting in the wrong group to share.

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Response to ThisIsNotGreat (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:03 PM

5. Oh no, that is not true...

If you have tangible proof of the existence of A god, any god at all, we want to know so we can test and verify.

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Response to ThisIsNotGreat (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:30 AM

6. Please share it. This is what we are all waiting for

Once your proof of God's existence has been verified, prizes and accolades await!

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Response to ThisIsNotGreat (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:28 PM

7. 16 days...

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