Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:33 PM

stopbush (23,535 posts)

Largely religious Americans wonder how tRumpers can believe in the fantasy world he weaves

A bit of a disconnect, no?

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Largely religious Americans wonder how tRumpers can believe in the fantasy world he weaves (Original post)	stopbush	Nov 2020	OP
I need context, here. n/t	Laelth	Nov 2020	#1
Context: all religion is based entirely on make believe.	stopbush	Nov 2020	#2
Real Christians	True Blue American	Nov 2020	#3
Christ was no bargain.	stopbush	Nov 2020	#4
Democracy is a fiction too that only works if enough people believe	applegrove	Nov 2020	#5
Tired argument that seeks to raise the abject fantasy of religion	stopbush	Nov 2020	#6
This message was self-deleted by its author	Freelancer	Nov 2020	#7
I wonder how much of the atheist vote T**** got?	RussBLib	Nov 2020	#8
According to Christianity Today, apparently using AP VoteCast data, atheists were 80/20 Biden/Trump	muriel_volestrangler	Nov 2020	#9

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:34 PM

Laelth (31,787 posts)

1. I need context, here. n/t

-Laelth

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:35 PM

stopbush (23,535 posts)

2. Context: all religion is based entirely on make believe.

tRump’s worldview is based on make believe.

Religious Americans who believe in talking snakes, zombies coming back from the dead and prophets flying to heaven on winged horses can’t understand how their fellow Americans fall for tRump’s fictions.

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:47 PM

True Blue American (13,131 posts)

3. Real Christians

Follow Christ. End of story. They would never believe a Con man who teaches the opposite that Christ did!

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:50 PM

stopbush (23,535 posts)

4. Christ was no bargain.

As far as who follows Christ, Jesus said that no man comes to the father lest he confess Jesus as his personal savior. In short, fuck ecumenicalism. You’re not a Christian, you’re burning in hell for eternity. Thus spake Jesus, meek and mild.

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 06:11 PM

applegrove (98,912 posts)

5. Democracy is a fiction too that only works if enough people believe

in it. Nation States, banking, money, the laws, language, religion, etc. Anything humans created to organize themselves is a fiction or a construct. What is not is science (which is solely based on observation but sometimes a fiction when testing hypothesi). Trump knows this and thinks if he just repeats something enough times it will become accepted. Or if he rams democracy with a wrecking ball and wins in an undemocratic way that that will be accepted. Democrats need to decide if they want liberal democracy (which they do) and then fight like hell to sell it to all americans again and label Republicans as against it because they are.

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 06:16 PM

stopbush (23,535 posts)

6. Tired argument that seeks to raise the abject fantasy of religion

to the level of human endeavor based on tangible realities.

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Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:41 PM

RussBLib (4,518 posts)

8. I wonder how much of the atheist vote T**** got?

Or, what % of Americans who are a "none" (no religion) voted for T****?

But yeah, my fiction is much preferable/better/stronger than your fiction. How can you possible believe in that fiction, when we have this much more "comforting" fiction/vision over here?

The Trumpers are especially the weaker ones. A bunch of them think T**** is some kind of god.

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Sat Nov 28, 2020, 09:56 AM

muriel_volestrangler (95,326 posts)

9. According to Christianity Today, apparently using AP VoteCast data, atheists were 80/20 Biden/Trump

Who will be the president of the United States for the next four years? Right now, we don’t know. Joe Biden currently holds 238 electoral votes to President Trump’s 213. But, as of Wednesday afternoon, ballots are still being counted in states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia and the final decision may take days to decide. Among white evangelical and born-again Christians, Trump earned 78 percent of the vote, according to the first 110,000 voters surveyed by the Associated Press for its VoteCast poll. Preliminary estimates from the National Election Pool put it a little lower, at 76 percent.
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Atheists are super liberal, very Democratic, very progressive. They are about 6% of the population. They voted for Biden 80/20, which is no surprise. Agnostics are a sort of slightly less liberal version of your atheist—75% of them voted for Biden in 2020.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/november-web-only/election-2020-evangelicals-trump-biden-podcast.html

A pre-election poll (start of Oct) had "atheist/agnostic" at 83-11: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/13/white-christians-continue-to-favor-trump-over-biden-but-support-has-slipped/

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