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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:33 PM

Largely religious Americans wonder how tRumpers can believe in the fantasy world he weaves

A bit of a disconnect, no?
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Reply Largely religious Americans wonder how tRumpers can believe in the fantasy world he weaves (Original post)
stopbush Nov 2020 OP
Laelth Nov 2020 #1
stopbush Nov 2020 #2
True Blue American Nov 2020 #3
stopbush Nov 2020 #4
applegrove Nov 2020 #5
stopbush Nov 2020 #6
Freelancer Nov 2020 #7
RussBLib Nov 2020 #8
muriel_volestrangler Nov 2020 #9

Response to stopbush (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:34 PM

1. I need context, here. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:35 PM

2. Context: all religion is based entirely on make believe.

tRumpís worldview is based on make believe.

Religious Americans who believe in talking snakes, zombies coming back from the dead and prophets flying to heaven on winged horses canít understand how their fellow Americans fall for tRumpís fictions.
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Response to stopbush (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:47 PM

3. Real Christians

Follow Christ. End of story. They would never believe a Con man who teaches the opposite that Christ did!

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:50 PM

4. Christ was no bargain.

As far as who follows Christ, Jesus said that no man comes to the father lest he confess Jesus as his personal savior. In short, fuck ecumenicalism. Youíre not a Christian, youíre burning in hell for eternity. Thus spake Jesus, meek and mild.
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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 06:11 PM

5. Democracy is a fiction too that only works if enough people believe

in it. Nation States, banking, money, the laws, language, religion, etc. Anything humans created to organize themselves is a fiction or a construct. What is not is science (which is solely based on observation but sometimes a fiction when testing hypothesi). Trump knows this and thinks if he just repeats something enough times it will become accepted. Or if he rams democracy with a wrecking ball and wins in an undemocratic way that that will be accepted. Democrats need to decide if they want liberal democracy (which they do) and then fight like hell to sell it to all americans again and label Republicans as against it because they are.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 06:16 PM

6. Tired argument that seeks to raise the abject fantasy of religion

to the level of human endeavor based on tangible realities.
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Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:41 PM

8. I wonder how much of the atheist vote T**** got?

Or, what % of Americans who are a "none" (no religion) voted for T****?

But yeah, my fiction is much preferable/better/stronger than your fiction. How can you possible believe in that fiction, when we have this much more "comforting" fiction/vision over here?

The Trumpers are especially the weaker ones. A bunch of them think T**** is some kind of god.

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Response to RussBLib (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 28, 2020, 09:56 AM

9. According to Christianity Today, apparently using AP VoteCast data, atheists were 80/20 Biden/Trump

Who will be the president of the United States for the next four years? Right now, we donít know. Joe Biden currently holds 238 electoral votes to President Trumpís 213. But, as of Wednesday afternoon, ballots are still being counted in states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia and the final decision may take days to decide. Among white evangelical and born-again Christians, Trump earned 78 percent of the vote, according to the first 110,000 voters surveyed by the Associated Press for its VoteCast poll. Preliminary estimates from the National Election Pool put it a little lower, at 76 percent.
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Atheists are super liberal, very Democratic, very progressive. They are about 6% of the population. They voted for Biden 80/20, which is no surprise. Agnostics are a sort of slightly less liberal version of your atheistó75% of them voted for Biden in 2020.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/november-web-only/election-2020-evangelicals-trump-biden-podcast.html

A pre-election poll (start of Oct) had "atheist/agnostic" at 83-11: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/13/white-christians-continue-to-favor-trump-over-biden-but-support-has-slipped/

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