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russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 11:38 PM Jun 2012

Let me start by saying I am a skeptic.

I have it from 2 people that Tinanium bracelets have improved their balance and overall health...Is this "psycho induced", or do you think it has some real benefits ?
I am an older male and have tried RX's, even acupuncture and chriopractics with zero results. I'll probably try anything at this time. I am still able to do my own yard work, but I fall a couple times in a 2 hour period. So far just skinned knees, elbows and embarassment.
Dr's did inner ear inspections....no problems there.
Suggestions anyone? Thanks in advance.

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Let me start by saying I am a skeptic. (Original Post) russspeakeasy Jun 2012 OP
My view - any perceived benefits are simply the placebo effect. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 #1
Mine too. thanks. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #6
Obviously but most people need totems to activate that. JackRiddler Jun 2012 #14
So they've ruled out vertigo? woodsprite Jun 2012 #2
Thank you very much. The Dr's. "eliminated" vertigo, russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #7
Have they put a 24 hour cardiac monitor on you? Warpy Jun 2012 #3
No, in fact, it has never been mentioned... russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #8
It sounds like you've got a doctor who has trivialized this Warpy Jun 2012 #11
I think you're right. I plan to pursue it... russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #13
I assume you meant titanium. laconicsax Jun 2012 #4
That is what I meant...Thanks. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #9
We heard a show on People's Pharmacy about difficult vertigo - could be Meniere's - NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 #5
I did not know about that, but I will know about it by tonight, russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #10
my pleasure, my left wing internet friend! NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 #12
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
14. Obviously but most people need totems to activate that.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:57 PM
Jun 2012

The placebo effect actually involves the administration of the placebo. It doesn't work because the doctors running the experiment say, "pretend you'll get better and think positive."

Faith, for those who take it seriously, seems to have some effect on positive outlook and determination to get better. That doesn't mean god (or titanium) is physically the cause, but most people need the totem for the mentality.

woodsprite

(11,911 posts)
2. So they've ruled out vertigo?
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 12:32 AM
Jun 2012

My husband has had tremendous results dealing with his vertigo by using the Eppley Maneuver.
The doc wanted him on meds that made him really sleepy, despite the fact that he didn't have any of the nausea that can accompany vertigo. I asked if she would consider sending him
for an eval someplace that did the maneuver. He had immediate relief from his dizziness after one session. Yes, he's had to have it done a couple of times over the last two years, but the meds weren't addressing the issue and were making daily activities impossible. Since it was so long in between episodes, they required a new evaluation before they would prescribe the treatment a second time when he had a recurrence, but at least they did it. It's really just a series of timed head rolls, but it repositions any of those 'grains of ballast' that have become dislodged in the inner ear.

Btw, he went thru all kinds of testing before they gave him the vertigo diagnosis. What showed that
it was this 'ballast' issue was testing using special goggles. They watched his eye movement as they put him through certain exercises.

I hope you find some relief.

russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
7. Thank you very much. The Dr's. "eliminated" vertigo,
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:37 PM
Jun 2012

because I didn't have nausea....Thank you so very much...

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
3. Have they put a 24 hour cardiac monitor on you?
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 12:47 AM
Jun 2012

Have they done a spinal tap?

If the drugs like meclizine don't work, they need to look a little deeper.

Falling down twice in a 2 hour period is bad juju. Something is causing it and they owe it to you to figure out what that is.

ETA: those dumb bracelets are great for basically healthy hypochondriacs. Enough of them get the placebo effect to keep sales robust. There is little chance you'll experience it, though, because it sounds like something is going on.

russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
8. No, in fact, it has never been mentioned...
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:40 PM
Jun 2012

I feel the same way about the bracelets, I'm clutching at straws and all that....Thanks very much.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
11. It sounds like you've got a doctor who has trivialized this
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 05:24 PM
Jun 2012

so maybe you need to find a doctor who will take it a little more seriously because it might be serious.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
4. I assume you meant titanium.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 02:33 AM
Jun 2012

I haven't heard of them before your post here, but a brief search led me to what are generally known as "ionized bracelets."

Ionized bracelets like Q-ray appear to be total bullshit.

They've been slapped down by the FTC for false advertising and two separate studies (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12620171 and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12440551) on them found them to be no better than placebo at what they claim to do.

I'm not sure that anyone here at DU is qualified to give any advice on how to deal with the problems you're having. Being someone who loses their balance a lot, I definitely empathize, but I can't think of any suggestions.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
5. We heard a show on People's Pharmacy about difficult vertigo - could be Meniere's -
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:28 AM
Jun 2012

there is a simple chiropractic adjustment that can be done.

russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
10. I did not know about that, but I will know about it by tonight,
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:46 PM
Jun 2012

thanks to the internet. Thanks so very much.

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