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Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:20 AM

Old man, look at yourself

In 1997 I was working as a nurse in a hospice in San Diego.

One patient was a man in his late 80's, a couple weeks away from dying of cancer.
His wife visited each day, but I never saw them interact other than a few short conversations.
She’d come in around 9 A.M. and stay to about 5 P.M.; sitting next to his bed, quietly reading a book.

The man, while alert, typically lay flat in his bed, his eyes closed, with what I viewed as him thinking “Just leave me alone and let me die. Don’t talk to me; don’t bother me. Just get out and let me die”.

I was in and out of the room throughout the day and spoke to both of them, trying to be friendly and supportive.
The man would briefly look at me but did not speak to me.
(I knew he could speak. I heard him briefly speak with his wife and doctor)

One day I was walking down the hallway when I heard my name, someone calling out to me.
I looked around and I saw this man sitting upright in his bed, calling me, and motioning for me to come to him.

I could see he had a smile on his face; looked happy and excited.
(His wife continued to quietly read her book)

He told me that during the previous night he awoke and found himself ‘floating’ near the ceiling of his room,
looking down at his body lying in bed. He said he then ‘floated’ back to his body.

A couple days later he told me he'd had another experience, where he awoke to find himself standing by the doorway to his room,
looking at his body lying in bed.

His experiences completely changed this man. He was now friendly, out going, talkative.
He even said he knew he was dying, and was curious what might be on the other side.

He died several days after his second 'out of body' experience.

I once read that these ‘out of body’ experiences among the dying is your soul/spirit making practice runs at leaving the deceased. When you die, your soul/spirit departs permanently for the afterlife.

Now, forgive me if this seems rude, but I don’t care if what I write here is believed or not.
I’m just telling about events this man told me happened to him.

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left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 OP
GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #1
Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #2
Kittycow Aug 2018 #3
PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #4
left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #5
PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #6
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blue cat Nov 2018 #8

Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:24 AM

1. Fair enough.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:34 AM

2. I hope it's true.

For all of our sake.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:52 AM

3. I believe you.

I think it's kind of a privilege that you were there to witness this.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Thu Aug 16, 2018, 11:49 AM

4. Thank you for sharing that.

Did any other patients communicate any such things to you while you were a hospice nurse?

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 16, 2018, 12:58 PM

5. Yes

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I had a deaf patient who told me he kept hearing beautiful music coming from 'up there',
pointing toward the ceiling during the week preceding his death.
(We were on the top floor. No one was on the roof. Just the sky above.)

I did a private duty 'in home care' for a retired physician who kept pointing toward an empty couch
a number of times during the week prior to his death.
He asked me on a number of occasions "Who is that woman? She looks like she's waiting for something."
I saw no one there. He told me what she looked like and I asked the family. They knew no one who resembled the woman.

I was doing the night shift 'in home' for a man who had made millions selling insurance.
We were alone in the house. Around 3 A.M. I heard the metal folding doors of a hall closet rattling.
I searched the house. All doors and windows were shut and locked. No one else was there but me and the patient.
The next morning his daughter came around 8 A.M. to take over. I told her about the noise.
She said "Oh, you heard our ghost." We went into the hall and looked at the folding doors on the closet.
They were wood. She said they used to be metal but kept sticking, so they replaced them with wood.
But the 'ghost' keeps rattling the old (no longer existing) metal doors.
After that night, the first thing I did when I came on duty each night was to walk through the house and turn on all the lights.
I never heard the 'ghost' again, and the patient died about 10 days later.

These are a few that stand out in my mind.

I think when you work with and around the dying, there are forces that you come in contact with, whether you know it or not.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 16, 2018, 01:54 PM

6. Thank you again.

I always love hearing such stories.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:43 PM

7. ...

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy" (Hamlet) Shakespeare

thank you for sharing.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon Nov 5, 2018, 09:50 AM

8. I had a cat die all of a sudden at around 6 years old

He had no symptoms prior. He played with something not there in the days preceding his death, and I had never seen him do it before.

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