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Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:22 PM

Debunking the perpetual foreigner myth

San Francisco. My mother’s womb. None of your business.

These are the answers I want to give when I’m asked, “Where are you really from?”

But, because I lack the nerve and am too afraid of upsetting the other person, I don’t.

A couple of months ago, I was at a church in Mount Vernon when the man in front of me turned around to greet me.

“Ni Hao,” he said.

“Good morning,” I replied, forcing a tight smile.

“Oh,” he frowned, clearly disappointed. “You’re not from China?”


“So where are you from?”


“No, where are you really from?”

I sighed internally.

“San Francisco,” I said. “I was born here; I’m actually a fifth generation American.”

The man lowered his head in embarrassment and turned away. Later, in the middle of a hymn, he looked back at me.

“I hope you don’t think I’m racist,” he whispered.


Easily the biggest problem I face in my career with government contracting and security clearances. It shocks people when they find out my accent and birth certificate are as fake as President Obama's. Unfortunately too many DUers also believe I'm stealing jobs away from Americans despite being born here.

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Response to IronLionZion (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:49 PM

1. WOW, those DUers must be on in the hours I am asleep.

I have never seen a DUer post anything about those born America stealing jobs or people who are here illegally.

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Response to Doreen (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:54 AM

2. Read any H1B threads?

Some DUers think they know who is a real American and there is a lot negative bigotry towards US citizens of Indian/South Asian heritage who must secretly be on visas to steal jobs.

After a number of hate crime news about Muslims, DUers have falsely assumed the Muslims were immigrants. In Portland it was two black American girls. In Virginia it was an American Muslim girl who was murdered.

There are many cases on this site where even educated liberals assume brown people are from somewhere else.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 01:09 PM

3. No, I have never seen H1B threads.

I guess I am lucky to only have read the posts to those here that I consider my democratic family. Yes, there are posts that I have disagreed with but not because they are hateful. It might be if I see something that has the good chance of being hateful I do not look at it because being hateful is not my goal. No, I do not hide from the reality of things but I just will not read hateful nonsensical posts because I figure they are trolls that are really asshole republicans.

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