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rpannier

(24,329 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 02:47 AM Jan 2020

10 Things About Japanese Schools I learned this year

My daughters (we have no sons) are about to finish their second year in Japan (I came end of last March because I had to finish up work in Korea). Our daughters are a mix of Multi European (my side) and Japanese-Korean (their mother). We live in Kanagawa and, while some of the things may not be universal, most of these I've heard from friends of ours in other prefectures exist as well.

10. No phones at school.
No cell phones, no flip phones, no smartphones no iphones, no exceptions. They are considered distracting and unnecessary at school. I support this rule. Coming from Korea, where they could carry their phones to-and-from school, I found that Korean kids were getting these amazingly wonderful do everything phones that they don't need. This includes walking to-and-from school. No carrying phones.

9. No Taking Your Child to School.
In Japan teaching your child independence is practically job 1 for parents. Parents do not drive their kids to school, walk their kids to school or any of that. Our elementary aged daughters walk a fair distance to school (because of our location). They are assigned walking groups. Since they are triplets, they are in three different classrooms and they have different walking groups because they walk by class. Our twins (1st year middle school) walk with their homeroom friends -- so they have different groups to walk with. Our oldest (3rd Year Middle school) walks with her friends.
* Yes, we have 6 daughters. No, we are not planning on having any more children for two reasons; first, I am a fairly old parent 55, and second, I'm afraid we'd have 4 next time.*

8. No Mechanical Pencils at School.
Don't know why. But, I don't know anyone who has children in Kanagawa, Tokyo, Osaka, etc whose school allows mechanical pencils.

7. No make-up, no hair dye, hair length and style is regulated, no nail polish (finger nails or toe nails), no tattoos, no pierced ears.
Although I have heard stories that there are schools that allow pierced ears, I don't know anyone who has children at any school that allows it.
There are sometimes exceptions to the hair dye -- our twins are an example. Unlike their sisters, our twins have mixed dominance hair -- black with bits of blonde and brown. The principal asked us to have their hair dyed so they'd have their hair color like everyone else. So, their hair is dyed.

6. Uniforms are tightly regulated.
Our girls all attend schools that require uniforms. Watch any anime and you have already seen this (though in some areas of Japan, elementary school students don't have uniforms). Kanagawa is fairly traditional regarding uniform requirements at all levels. Not only is their uniform regulated, but the book bag they carry is often regulated (at all our children's schools boys have black and girls red), the shoes (outdoor and indoor) and how the uniform is worn.
I wasn't sure how our children would respond when they went from Korea to Japan, but all of them like their uniforms and enjoy wearing them -- which is good, because they're in uniform almost the whole day -- and by whole day, I mean the whole day, from the time they go to school, their after school classes and coming home they wear their uniform

5. Clubs are very important
Every school has clubs. The clubs are year round. Even during vacation they are expected to attend their club.

4. The students clean the school. After classes are over, Gakko Soji begins. Every student is assigned a duty around the school and every teacher is assigned to moderate and help. They did this in Korea as well. Interestingly, I have been told that this is to prepare them for when they start working as adults.

3. Students may not write or draw on the board, except for doing work during class.
When we were in Korea, during break period between each class, the students would sometimes draw pictures or write things on the board. As long as it was erased before next class it was okay. Not at any Japanese school I know of: no scribbling, no drawing, no writing, no kidding

2. Bullying is a Problem. But it is improving.
In the quest for conformity, children that are seen as unusual or different are often shunned by their peers. In some cases they are taunted by students in their class to be like everyone else. Fortunately, over the past few years it has been changing. The Superintendent for Public Instruction for our prefecture has a near zero tolerance policy for this behavior. One of our twins' best friend was one of the shunned, and this was strictly because her family is fairly lower socioeconomic and they're kind of odd. Fortunately for this girl, she latched on to one of our twins as a bff and this daughter can 'intimidate with the best of them' if need be.

1. Students cannot be held back
No matter how badly a student does, they cannot be held back. As far as I can tell, this has more to do with keeping the children in the same grade the same age -- sameness. The teachers spend a lot of time trying to get these slow students up to grade level -- so do the other children

**If you want to be a school teacher in Japan you might as well give up ever having a good, long vacation because they spend the bulk of their vacations at school doing work, attending classes assigned by the Prefecture, etc. I don't know about the foreign native English speakers

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10 Things About Japanese Schools I learned this year (Original Post) rpannier Jan 2020 OP
Most of these make sense to me, especially 4 and 10. yonder Jan 2020 #1
Agreed rpannier Jan 2020 #2
Requiring kids to dye their hair to conform More_Cowbell Jan 2020 #3
I understand your position rpannier Jan 2020 #6
Very interesting NJCher Jan 2020 #4
They go to the same hair shop I do rpannier Jan 2020 #8
My wife is Japanese and there is one other thing... Kablooie Jan 2020 #5
Very true rpannier Jan 2020 #7
Curiosity rpannier Jan 2020 #9
there is a trend here NJCher Jan 2020 #12
So that's what a bullet journal is... Kittycow Jan 2020 #13
I asked her but she said no. She didn't have to keep a journal. Kablooie Jan 2020 #14
"children that are seen as unusual or different are often shunned by their peers" mitch96 Jan 2020 #10
Gajin is correct rpannier Jan 2020 #11

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
2. Agreed
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 04:40 AM
Jan 2020

The one I left (and wish I hadn't) is that you an identify the best behaved children n class because they sit by the windows. They are less likely to be distracted by the outside

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
3. Requiring kids to dye their hair to conform
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:25 AM
Jan 2020

Doesn't seem to me like that aligns with the goal of stopping the bullying of "different" kids. Instead, the lesson seems to be "No differences allowed." So the 100% Japanese kids don't learn to deal with natural differences among people. And even worse, in my opinion: your daughters learn that their natural hair isn't acceptable.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
6. I understand your position
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:45 AM
Jan 2020

But, the choice was ours and as a foursome (Wife, the twins and me) we decided to do it
Probably a decision made easier since I dye my hair and in Korea it's not uncommon for girls to get their hair dyed
I dye my hair out of vanity -- I'm not ready for white hair

NJCher

(35,653 posts)
4. Very interesting
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:30 AM
Jan 2020

Thanks for writing this.

In at least one of the alternative schools we have here, the students help clean the school. My area has some of the top k through 12 schools in the nation. The school I’m thinking of is the one Susan Orleans wrote about in an essay about a boy in fifth grade. Can’t recall title at this hour.

I’d have a bit of an issue with the hair dyeing unless there is a very safe way to do it.

Despite the wide latitude given to American students in dress and behavior, they’re not creative. They’re just hooked on social media.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
8. They go to the same hair shop I do
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:50 AM
Jan 2020

I dye my hair -- because it's turning white -- vanity
It's not uncommon for girls and boys in Korea to dye their hair -- brown and red are popular
When we were still in Korea there was a girl in their grade who had green and red streaks

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
5. My wife is Japanese and there is one other thing...
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:45 AM
Jan 2020

She said the text books were paperbacks you owned. You could write in them, make notes and then keep them so they might be used as reference in future years. This also allowed for yearly updates to the material.
Here in the US the books are expensive hardbacks that belong to the school. They are expensive to replace so sometimes the material is out of date because the school didn't want to pay to replace them.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
9. Curiosity
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:08 AM
Jan 2020

Did your wife have to keep a journal?
Our children all have to write in their journal everyday. They're rather involved; they write about what they did that day, what they accomplished, their hopes and dreams, just about anything and everything. They're even allowed to draw pictures. I find them interesting.

NJCher

(35,653 posts)
12. there is a trend here
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:04 PM
Jan 2020

toward something like that. It's called a bullet journal. I keep my own version of that. It's fun. It's also useful when I need to check when I did something or what I told someone.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
13. So that's what a bullet journal is...
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 10:53 PM
Jan 2020

I saw a basic bullet journal kit on Amazon and was trying to figure it out since I hadn't heard that term before.

I came up with it's a blank planner that you decorate.

Thanks for some very interesting reading!


Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
14. I asked her but she said no. She didn't have to keep a journal.
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 04:14 AM
Jan 2020

Either that's new or particular to the school your kids goes to.

mitch96

(13,890 posts)
10. "children that are seen as unusual or different are often shunned by their peers"
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:35 AM
Jan 2020

I'm curious if your kids are bullied b/c they are not "pure" Japanese? I think the word is gaijin?
m

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
11. Gajin is correct
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:00 AM
Jan 2020

The answer is not really. They have their disputes with other students, but not shunned by their peers (though they will never truly be Japanese in the eyes of many)
It helps they look like mom, so they're Asian looking and have a lot of Japanese characteristics -- though the youngest have 'Korean eyes' (small eyes). It also helps that Kanagawa is a fairly inviting city.

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