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msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:05 AM Jan 2016

Breaking--Why aren't we seeing the Sander's plan before Iowa?

Bernie claimed we would see the single payer tax plan before Iowa. Jeff Weaver's backed down from that deadline.

Is it because the tax increases are too great? That's going to kill Democrats down ballot.

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Breaking--Why aren't we seeing the Sander's plan before Iowa? (Original Post) msanthrope Jan 2016 OP
He's introduced legislation spelling out the details of the plan. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #1
right that's the legislation he's supposed to supplement with more information. msanthrope Jan 2016 #6
Do you have a link to Weaver saying this? joshcryer Jan 2016 #13
Joshua mobile right now. I'll post a link when I have it msanthrope Jan 2016 #16
Is this ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #9
Is that you EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #2
ROFL..... Segami Jan 2016 #4
blah blah blah you see the writing on the wall, don't you? Hillary is finished. Thank the gods.... bowens43 Jan 2016 #3
Sounds like somebody needs a hug Android3.14 Jan 2016 #5
No real upside at this point nt firebrand80 Jan 2016 #7
Bernie Sanders says he'll reveal full tax plan by Iowa caucuses. Is he truthful or not? Alfresco Jan 2016 #8
Breaking? Click bait. morningfog Jan 2016 #10
I know whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #22
Bernie's supporters can't answer the question because the details haven't been released. Alfresco Jan 2016 #11
Exactly, it's better for BS to withhold actual policy details R B Garr Jan 2016 #12
He is running a shell game. Nt NCTraveler Jan 2016 #14
well the down ballot issue isn't going away anytime soon. msanthrope Jan 2016 #17
I was just at the caucus... mikehiggins Jan 2016 #15
HE INTRODUCED THE LEGISLATION IN 2013!!!! Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #18
Well, yes....but how do you pay for it? Bernie acknowledged last week that he needed msanthrope Jan 2016 #20
Single payer is cheaper because you are cutting out the private company profits. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #21
COME ON PEOPLE!! We WILL see Sanders plan before Feb 1... it'll come out 1/31/16 11:59pm uponit7771 Jan 2016 #19
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
1. He's introduced legislation spelling out the details of the plan.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:16 AM
Jan 2016

As you are misinformed, start here: http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-healthcare/

The Clinton campaign, now in full desperate panikation mode, is attacking Sanders on healthcare how much it costs and how there is no plan. Both attacks are dishonest.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
6. right that's the legislation he's supposed to supplement with more information.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:41 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie was saying last week he would be supplementing that legislation with more information prior to the Iowa caucuses. Jeff Weaver from his campaign though is now disputing that there will be more available before the Iowa caucuses.

I think the down ballot issue is something worth exploring, don't you?

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
16. Joshua mobile right now. I'll post a link when I have it
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jan 2016

It's on my Twitter feed, and of course I can't find it now....

Edited....it's the chart they just released showing the 7 proposals, but nothing on single payer. For some rwason, can't link it.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
9. Is this ...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:52 AM
Jan 2016
(Located at the bottom of the website)

About Us · Grassroots Resources · Contact Us

This website was built & is maintained by volunteers with no official relation to Bernie Sanders.


A problem, as it is (basically) a FAQ on a plan that has yet to be presented, compiled by "volunteers with no official relation to Sanders"?

(Note: The above is a rhetorical questions because those linking to this site, in response to calls for links to the actual plan, clearly, don't have a problem with it.)
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
5. Sounds like somebody needs a hug
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:31 AM
Jan 2016

It'll be okay. Yes, we won't have Clinton, and I know that is a sad thing for a very few people. On the plus side, we will have a functioning government.

Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
8. Bernie Sanders says he'll reveal full tax plan by Iowa caucuses. Is he truthful or not?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:44 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie Sanders to reveal full tax plan by Iowa caucuses


R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
12. Exactly, it's better for BS to withhold actual policy details
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:41 AM
Jan 2016

in favor of his applause lines. Talking about how to fund his proposals just doesn't fit in with the show.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
15. I was just at the caucus...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jan 2016

Oh, wait a minute. It's two weeks away? Maybe there's still time dontcha think?

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
18. HE INTRODUCED THE LEGISLATION IN 2013!!!!
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jan 2016

How hard is that for you to comprehend?

The bill has been written for well over 2 years.


Feel free to attack it if you can.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/1782/text









 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
20. Well, yes....but how do you pay for it? Bernie acknowledged last week that he needed
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jan 2016

To supplement the 2013 legislation with more information as to any tax increases. That was supposed to be made available before the Iowa caucuses.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
21. Single payer is cheaper because you are cutting out the private company profits.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:51 PM
Jan 2016

Because we would be covering everyone the overall costs could go up in the short term.


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/what-you-should-know-about-berniecare-sanders-proposed-health-overhaul/

^snip^

But the plan would raise taxes. Among them would be a new 2.2 percent “health care income tax,” with higher rates for upper-income earners.


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Instead, single-payer would aim to slow the rate of growth in costs by putting hospitals on budgets, negotiating drug prices with pharmaceutical companies and eliminating much of the waste that many experts believe characterizes the U.S. health care system.

Administrative savings would come from doing away with layers of insurance company bureaucracy. Those would be offset somewhat because the government bureaucracy would grow.

It may take some time for any expected savings from a single-payer system to start showing up, especially when the costs of the transition get factored in.








There is a 4 paragraph rule so I am leaving this as it is. Maybe you should try using a search engine sometime. All these answers are out there and very easy to find. At this points it seems as if you are deliberately trying to stay ignorant.





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