What happens if Elizabeth Warren endorses Hillary?

[cali]

I think it all depends on the circumstances, which is a major reason I thinyk she's being so careful. If she endorses either Bernie or Hillary before Super Tuesday, she risks a lot. Endorse Hillary too early and she'll lose a huge amount of clout among her progressive base (see the lopsided MoveOn endorsement vote) and in the Senate. Endorse Bernie and if Hillary wins both the nomination and the White House, be saddled with diminished influence with the Administration.

I don't see her endorsing in the near future.

[NorthCarolina]

1. It won't matter.

Bernie's campaign has a life of it's own independent of EW.

[Renew Deal]

3. Let me get out of the way while you warm up the bus

[cali]

6. I won't throw her under the bus.

I think she's likely to endorse Clinton. I do think she has to be careful about the timing.

[NorthCarolina]

7. Not at all.

I like EW, I simply said I do not believe the viability of Bernie's campaign hinges on EW's approval. You can paint it however meets your fancy though since I am fully aware of the bitter feelings on the Clinton side in response to Bernies surges in the polls and the need for an outlet to vent, or make shit up, as necessary.

[daleanime]

9. It is possible to disagree with someone you respect....

not that you have anything to worry about in that area.

[Ed Suspicious]

27. Look. These people aren't being tossed under the proverbial bus. We're just disagreeing. We don't

hate them. We simply think they've made a bad decision. This bus shit is straight fucking infantile.

[Fawke Em]

30. I think you meant to write, "AREN'T being tossed..."

[Ed Suspicious]

33. I always require an edit or two. You need to give me a 3 minute buffer zone.

[Blue_Adept]

2. Pretty much

I can't see her really doing it until things are settled for those same reasons. A lot of it really comes down to not wanting to be a kingmaker, instead focusing on the actual work. Which is those of us here in MA elected her.

[fleur-de-lisa]

4. I love, love, love EW . . .

She was my first choice to run as our candidate. If she does endorse Hillary, it won't affect my admiration for her.

I think she's in a tough spot, probably torn between wanting to see the first female president and, in her heart, knowing that Bernie is the better choice. I believe she will do what she thinks is best for the country and for our party.

If Warren decides that endorsing Hillary is the prudent choice, it won't change my support for her.

[Punkingal]

5. I'm curious about her relationship with Hillary...found the following article:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/09/why-elizabeth-warren-keeps-hillary-clinton-at-arm-s-length.html

snip...

'It’s not surprising that Elizabeth Warren is withholding her endorsement of Hillary Clinton for president. Warren is a megastar in her own right, and her support carries more weight than the other 13 Democratic women senators who endorsed Clinton last month. Warren also declined to squander her box-office appeal by joining Clinton’s “Massachusetts Leadership Council,” announced this week, where she would have been one of many since the rest of the state’s Democratic delegation is on the list.

It is not personal, it’s business, although before she became a senator Warren was quite critical of Clinton’s relationship with the financial industry. And depending where you sit, and how paranoiac you are, Warren is courageously carrying the flag for the 99 percent as the sheriff for Wall Street, pushing Clinton to the left, or she’s secretly hoping Bernie Sanders wins the New Hampshire primary and a panicked party drafts her into the race as the more electable progressive voice.'

I don't think she will endorse anyone yet.

[Kentonio]

17. I don't believe this part for a second..

"or she’s secretly hoping Bernie Sanders wins the New Hampshire primary and a panicked party drafts her into the race as the more electable progressive voice."

I think she's better than that, and I'm pretty sure if she did then she'd lose. The author of that piece probably doesn't understand progressives if they think we'd just throw our candidate under the bus when he's finally winning just to support someone more appealing to the other side.

[Punkingal]

19. I don't believe that about her either.

[Agschmid]

31. Same.

[Art_from_Ark]

56. I was originally hoping Elizabeth Warren would run

But her window of opportunity came and went. She said she wasn't running, and even though some of use didn't believe it at the time, she didn't run. Bernie has filled the void that was left by Warren and has put a fantastic network of supporters and campaign workers in place, and has a good message that resonates well with a large segment of the populace. At this stage, I don't think that Warren could distinguish herself from Bernie.

[Stellar]

18. I don't think Warren should endorse either one and let the voters chose the victor

It wouldn't be fair to either. Plus, if either one start to do poorly as President, I think it would make her look bad too.

[Segami]

8. It wouldn't be the end of the world without a Warren endorsement...

It's definitely an important endorsement but not the end all for Bernie. The Sanders campaign has morphed and grown since he announced his presidential entry.

An endorsement from the bank antagonist wouldn’t likely provide a major jolt to Clinton’s ground game in New Hampshire — which already features help from members of Warren’s political orbit who travel up from Massachusetts on the weekends — but the resultant news coverage would likely provide a dose of momentum, explained multiple Manchester, Boston, and Washington-based Democrats aligned with Clinton and Warren.

“Certainly, Sen. Warren would be a great endorsement, and she can only do more to add to the growing number of people from Massachusetts who are up here on the weekends already, knocking on doors and folding into this big Hillary get-out-the-vote machine,” explained Sean Downey, New Hampshire political director for Barack Obama’s 2012 reelection campaign and Northeast director of the Ready For Hillary PAC before Clinton launched.

But Democrats close to Clinton aren’t holding their breath for a formal nod between now and New Hampshire’s Feb. 9 primary, figuring that Warren has little to gain from backing the front-runner and a lot to lose in terms of credibility among her progressive backers who are now with Sanders. By waiting so long to take sides in the first place, said a handful of Sanders allies, she has already started to lose her luster with the state’s most ardent progressives.

“Until Bernie really took off, Elizabeth Warren was the only voice of progressives,” said liberal New Hampshire radio host and Clinton critic Arnie Arnesen, a former state representative who’s run unsuccessfully for the House and the governorship. “Bernie, in an interesting way, has cast a shadow over Elizabeth. Not that people don’t love her still, but she’s not essential.”

“People don’t talk about her at all,” added fellow radio host and former state senator Burt Cohen, now a Sanders supporter. “I had a bumper sticker on my car urging Liz Warren to run before Bernie got in. The people that care about Liz Warren are all on board with Bernie, and there’s no talk about her whatsoever.”



http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/elizabeth-warren-2016-endorsement-217731

[emulatorloo]

10. I agree. I believe she will endorse the eventual nominee once it becomes clearer

who it will be.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

11. This is what happens.

[Ed Suspicious]

32. STOP, BUS! You're about to run over this citizen!

[earthside]

34. My estimation is you'll see more of that if she endorses Sanders.

The charges of betrayal to the cause of the 'first woman President' will be atmospheric.

Now, Warren would be politically foolish to offer an endorsement until someone has the nomination pretty secure, so I don't think you'll see an endorsement from her anytime soon.

Sander's campaign isn't based on garnering endorsements, so I think if EW for some reason goes with Clinton it won't make a big difference to the Sanders effort.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

37. It hasn't been Hillary supporters shitting on every one of Sanders' endorsements...

However, a very loud minority of Sanders supporters has been shitting on every single one of Hillary's endorsements.

[PyaarRevolution]

39. Well, most of Hillary's endorsements aren't.

People that would change my mind on supporting her. The vast majority are part of the establishment and quite frankly Corporatists, INCLUDING Diane Feinstein(she supported TPP, nuff said).

[earthside]

40. That's because so many of them ...

... have been the insider, elitists that so exemplify what is wrong with Hillary.

And because this is a replay of the losing 2008 Clinton campaign: "the inevitable one" with the steamroller bandwagon.
Clinton's campaign is based on this endorsement strategy, so of course, her opponent(s) would have been expected to go after them in any event.

I admit it is easy to mock so many of Mrs. Clinton's endorsements -- no surprise and what one would expect from to one percent supporting the one percent.

[artislife]

57. I won't vote for EW...but I can't anyway

I am in WA.

LOLOLO...you want us to get riled up.

Well, she and Bernie tapped into a movement, but if she doesn't want to ride it out, ok.

We are thankful she started the first few hundred dominos to fall, this is how we got to see there were a lot more of us in the nation. The movement will continue to grow. You see, it REALLY is about issues and not personalities. Go watch this:
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/video_kshama_sawant_delivers_a_socialst_response_to_president_20160113

[Mnpaul]

12. Last I heard

she wasn't there yet and went out of her way(in a very diplomatic manner) to avoid do so.

[firebrand80]

13. Endorsement generally don't change anything

I think one exception is when the endorsement is something outside the norm, like when Colin Powell endorsed Obama. Or when a Obama cabinet official endorses Hillary, it's a *yawn* moment, but if that same official were to endorse Bernie, people would sit up and take notice.

That being said, since Warren is probably closer to Bernie than she is Hillary politically, I think a Warren endorsement for Hillary would be meaningful. It would somewhat blunt Bernie's attacks that Hillary in the candidate of Wall Street and the Establishment. If she were to endorse Bernie on the other hand, it wouldn't really mean much.

[arcane1]

14. I'll be disappointed, but it will have zero impact on my vote.

I can't imagine anyone endorsing her that would change my mind.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. I'll consider it her opinion and disagree with it.

It will not influence my vote in either case.

[Skwmom]

16. Actions speak louder than words. Is Warren the real deal or another opportunistic politician

who gives a good speech? I guess we'll find out.

[cali]

21. I think that's ridiculous. Maybe she doesn't believe Bernie

can win the general election. In any case, her endorsing Hillary wouldn't diminish the work she's done.

[Skwmom]

26. I think people are a lot more questioning than they use to be.

That's one good thing the phony "for the people" candidates have given us.

On edit: She can also be one of those who are willing to sell out and be "pragmatic" if it's to their benefit.

[dreamnightwind]

38. I'm with you on this

I'm in the camp that thinks, given her very public positions on looking out for the little guy rather than big money, that she absolutely should be working to help Bernie, or get in the primary herself, though it's probably too late for that.

If she comes out for Hillary it will influence my opinion of where Warren stands, as it should.

[mythology]

54. Words fail me

Anybody who doesn't support your preferred candidate is an opportunistic politician.

Let's take John Lewis. I bet he set out to get his skull fractured and be beaten half to death while peacefully working for the right to vote did all that just so he could some day get elected to Congress just so he could reap the rewards of endorsing Hillary Clinton. I mean sure he's a real world hero, but because he doesn't fawn over Bernie Sanders make him a fraud right?

I can't think of any words that would sufficiently express my absolute disdain for the idea that not endorsing/voting for Sanders is a sufficient sign that somebody is a phony. It's everything that is wrong with politics today. It's not enough to just disagree, but you have to claim that anybody who disagrees is morally bankrupt.

[randome]

20. This.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

[seaglass]

22. I hope if she does endorse Hillary it is not until after MA votes. Warren only needs support from

MA residents unless she plans to run for higher office so pissing off Move On voters really shouldn't enter into the equation.

I don't care who she or any other members of the MA delegation endorse, just wish they wouldn't do it before voters get their say.

[Blue_In_AK]

23. If I were her,

in her position, I wouldn't endorse anyone until after the convention.

[1StrongBlackMan]

24. DU goes ...

[cali]

29. I don't know. I'm much more interested in the broader political ramifications

Wouldn't bother me; I expect her to endorse Hillary, though I think she's being politically savvy in holding off. She has little to gain and much to lose by endorsing Hillary before Iowa and NH.

[Agschmid]

28. I would be shocked if she did.

[tularetom]

35. Back in the day a Warren endorsement of Hillary would have snuffed the Sanders campaign

But at this point, Sanders has picked up sufficient momentum on its own, so that Warren's endorsement is no longer that important.

The major downside of Warren endorsing Clinton would be the gloating that would arise from the Clinton camp.

[ChiciB1]

36. I'm Not Sold On The Fact That She'll Endorse Either One...

There are HUGE pluses and minuses should she do it. It will hurt me should she endorse Hillary because I think her views are more in line with Bernie's. If she endorses Hillary I would wonder why. For me, Bernie is more likely to embolden people to become a candidate to run for an elective office. I think many people don't run for office because it's hard to win against an established candidate because it's so hard. Seems to me she would rather work with a more Progressive Congress as opposed to having fight for every crumb right now.

It gives me the jitters, maybe I shouldn't feel this way but I do.

[dreamnightwind]

41. No time to be coy, she needs to jump in where her principles are

I think her endorsement, either way, will be hugely important, especially if she makes campaign appearances for the candidate.

I've actually been very disappointed she has focused on relatively minor issues in her Senate work lately, and avoided the much larger fight for the soul of the party, which is clearly what we're in the middle of.

She could really do a lot to tip the scales. I wish she would stick her neck out and help us do this, it's a difficult primary battle and the two sides are clearly defined. She can work for the winner either way in the general election.

[Kentonio]

42. I think it would blunt Bernie's momentum slightly.

But I think he's built up such a huge backing from the progressive wing of the party that it would just be a small glitch at this point.

I think the main effect would be to do unspeakable damage to Elizabeth's reputation and trust ratings amongst progressives. I wouldn't throw her under the bus, but it would certainly diminish her in my eyes and make me trust her a lot less just like it did with Sherod Brown.

If you say you stand for something, and you finally have a chance of achieving that goal and choose to back down and take a safer path instead, that says something to me. Bernie might not hold it against people who endorse Clinton, but many of us will remember none the less.

[2pooped2pop]

43. Bernie has a major endorsement coming up

And many think it's Warren.

[cali]

45. That would shock me

[INdemo]

44. I dont think she will endorse Hillary. Hillary is too closely tied to Wall St

and with this last Republican style attack where she sent Chelsea as her attack dog I dont think there is a chance.
If Elizabeth Warren should endorse Hillary then every stance she has taken against the Big banks against inequality wages etc, than that was political garbage.l

[highprincipleswork]

46. First of all, doubt it would happen. But it wouldn't change my POV one bit.

I would still care deeply about Senator Warren and what she represents.

And I would still be a solid Bernie supporter.

[ljm2002]

47. I think you are spot on about the tradeoffs...

...and that does make it unlikely for her to endorse anyone this early in the game.

We'll know pretty soon who the bombshell endorsement is from. I am awaiting it with great anticipation!

[R. P. McMurphy]

48. Bacon prices would skyrocket because all the newly-flying pigs would escape. nt

[sonofspy777]

49. She won't endorse Clinton

...it would hurt her credibility

[comradebillyboy]

50. I think that would be very nice but I think people at DU

over estimate Warren's appeal outside the left wing of the Democratic party.

[cali]

52. Not so. Why do you think she's getting so much pressure from party

bigwigs to endorse Hillary? Because she is very popular with dems of all stripes.

[Mike Nelson]

51. Unless she makes a deal with either candidate...

...she should not endorse so soon. She's smart to sit on the fence, now.

[MisterP]

53. nothing, since the primary is no longer about galas, extravaganzas, talk shows, and endorsements?

[JTFrog]

55. Warren will go under the bus and Hillary will be accused of all sorts of nefarious deeds. n/t