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Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 02:53 AM Jan 2016

Finally, Hillary Clinton has a battle on her hands..


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sanderss-run-is-no-fairy-tale/2016/01/14/0f0afc50-bb01-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

If you thought the political landscape couldn’t be more unsettled, think again. In the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, Bernie Sanders is surging. Hillary Clinton now faces not a coronation, not a cakewalk, but a contest — one she could lose.

Has there ever been a worse election to be an establishment candidate? Certainly not in my lifetime. When a pitchfork-populist billionaire is leading one party’s race and a self-described democratic socialist is rapidly gaining ground in the other, I think it’s safe to say we’re somewhere we haven’t been before.

For much of the past year, Clinton led Sanders in national polls by more than 20 points. Now, according to the RealClearPolitics average, her lead has shrunk to less than nine points — and the most recent survey, a CBS/New York Times poll released this week, showed just a seven-point gap.

State polls should make Clinton even more nervous. Her once-comfortable lead over Sanders in Iowa is now just four points, pretty much a toss-up. And in New Hampshire, Sanders — a longtime senator from next-door Vermont — leads Clinton by six points. It is within the realm of possibility that the presumptive Democratic nominee could lose both of the first two states. Then what?

Then what, indeed!
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Finally, Hillary Clinton has a battle on her hands.. (Original Post) Punkingal Jan 2016 OP
Well, to be fair, 2008 was no cakewalk, either. stone space Jan 2016 #1
Perhaps if she didn't start with the birther nonsense it would have been. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #2
Did she start the birther stuff? Punkingal Jan 2016 #4
It first appeared on a Clinton mailing list. Scootaloo Jan 2016 #6
OMG. Punkingal Jan 2016 #8
Same way he could stand Rahm. Scootaloo Jan 2016 #9
I would definitely say that! JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #10
I read that here somewhere Kalidurga Jan 2016 #7
with a tip of the hat to Stephen Colbert DirtyHippyBastard Jan 2016 #3
Just two corrections: Clinton's lead over Sanders in Iowa is 2 % not 4 % Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #5
Clinton supporters were posting polls here every 5 minutes.... coyote Jan 2016 #11
They're probably off somewhere bvf Jan 2016 #13
Great OP, Punkingal. bvf Jan 2016 #12
Thanks,love Eugene, too. Saw him on a show the other day saying they hadn't been on it with Bernie. Punkingal Jan 2016 #16
55 comments restorefreedom Jan 2016 #14
A short lived battle FloridaBlues Jan 2016 #15
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. It first appeared on a Clinton mailing list.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 03:55 AM
Jan 2016

and her supporters ran with it for a brief time before getting laughed into submission. Like, a week or two. Republicans picked it up a while after that, and added all their kooky-ass side theories to it.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. Same way he could stand Rahm.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 04:00 AM
Jan 2016

They were useful objects for what he needed at the time. You might say they were tools.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
7. I read that here somewhere
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 03:55 AM
Jan 2016

I think I saw a clip too. It's really hard to keep track of all the videos of her misbehaving though.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
5. Just two corrections: Clinton's lead over Sanders in Iowa is 2 % not 4 %
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 03:45 AM
Jan 2016

according to the latest polls (which, taking in the MOE, is a statistical deadheat) and Sanders is ahead of her by 16 % in NH - which means she will surely lose the second primary.

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
11. Clinton supporters were posting polls here every 5 minutes....
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 04:26 AM
Jan 2016

now they have all gone missing. Janeyvee where are you?

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
12. Great OP, Punkingal.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:01 AM
Jan 2016

Also from the piece, regarding her most recent broadside against Sanders:


Such careful and misleading parsing of language can only be called Clintonesque and only be read as a danger sign. I can’t help but recall how Bill Clinton invited a backlash in 2008 by calling the Obama candidacy a “fairy tale.” Maybe Hillary Clinton should try leaving the family at home.


There's that word again: "Clintonesque."

I love Eugene Robinson.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
16. Thanks,love Eugene, too. Saw him on a show the other day saying they hadn't been on it with Bernie.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:34 AM
Jan 2016

I noticed the word Clintonesque, too, and that is one of the things I don't want to go back to. As for Hillary leaving the family home, well, apparently they are all alike.

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