2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat does this mean:“People talk about having extraordinary grandchildren, but I actually have one."
?t=1m43sComment at the 1:43 mark.
What a weird thing to say. Is this a swipe a Bernie talking about his extraordinary grandkids who must not quite live up to Hillary's idea of extraordinary? I honestly don't know. That's how I hear it. Tell me how I'm wrong, Hillary people.
stone space
(6,498 posts)I think they are all extraordinary.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Still #notmyabuela.
MineralMan
(146,248 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Some people talk about doing the right thing, but I actually follow through.
Some people talk about ____________________ , but I actually do.
randys1
(16,286 posts)The way certain folks twist stuff, you wonder.
Next someone is gonna say there might be something to that whole Benghazi thing or Whitewater
it is a really childish, insulting, filthy comment.
MineralMan
(146,248 posts)That you exaggerate it so much is something altogether different.
azmom
(5,208 posts)It's morally wrong to denigrate anyone's grandkids. Shame on her.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)As she sinks lower and lower and lower and lower into the mud.
emulatorloo
(44,057 posts)That's what she says next, but that was edited out of the clip.
This is the rest of the full quote:
And I think too many people are forgetting what are some of the biggest determinants as to what happens to your children and grandchildren. The first being what kind of country we are and whether were still providing the opportunities to realize your promise and potential and what kind of worlds going to be out there waiting.
And I feel passionately that just because we had it in the past, doesnt mean were going to keep it in the future. You shouldnt have to be the granddaughter of a former president to have your American Dream realized. I think every kid should have a chance to live up to her god-given potential.
Please explain to me how that is an attack on Bernie or an attack on non-biological children and grandchildren?
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)...even if you're not in Lake Woebegone.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)If it could happen there, it can happen anywhere.
kath
(10,565 posts)sleazy, grifter, and/or ethically challenged grandparents.
see Divernan's diary for some very edumacational articles about the Mezvinskys.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Outrage ensues. lol.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)grandkids at worst. Which is it?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I don't find what she said to be difficult to understand at all. Might I ask if the arrow on her logo caused you any confusion? I think that would clear this up for me.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)She didn't really answer Mika's question.
Hillary offered the usual boilerplate platitudes that we hear from most mainstream presidential candidates.
And ... she talks about herself a lot ... and the throwaway grandkid line at the end? An attempt at levity or being folksy?
Heck you ask a good question: What does this mean?
And really what the heck is the overarching inspirational theme of her campaign?
Vote for me because I'm a grandma and we need a third Obama term?
That what I heard her say in the clip.
Not good enough on a day when the stock market is down another 500 points or so.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Not good enough Bernie. You talk a nice game, but your grandchildren are common. You just can't trust a socialist, or his common grandkids...
closeupready
(29,503 posts)If so, I'd be interested how you can square that proverb with her implied claim here (if you can; you may not be able to).
cali
(114,904 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)but her's is the one that actually is. It's.a doting grandmother joke.
Mountain out of ... hell, it's not even a molehill.
emulatorloo
(44,057 posts)Here's what she says right afterwards:
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/15/1470310/-Clinton-Did-Not-Diss-Sanders-Grandkids
And I think too many people are forgetting what are some of the biggest determinants as to what happens to your children and grandchildren. The first being what kind of country we are and whether were still providing the opportunities to realize your promise and potential and what kind of worlds going to be out there waiting.
And I feel passionately that just because we had it in the past, doesnt mean were going to keep it in the future. You shouldnt have to be the granddaughter of a former president to have your American Dream realized. I think every kid should have a chance to live up to her god-given potential.
As to the joke, it is a common one where folks poke fun at themselves for their own grandmotherly/grandfatherly pride.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Generally a harmless bit of oneupship.
Interestingly, a friend of my mom used to regale their Sunday school class about her talented granddaughter, the singer. This was before she, Norah Jones, busted out. So sometimes it is true.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Arrogant and elitist. Not grandmotherly at all.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)As was clearly stated in the other thread by Sanders and Clinton supporters alike...
But hey lets just re-hash it anyways.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)and seven extraordinary grandchildren." I remember it because after he said it I thought how sweet it was to say that about his grandkids.
When HRH says:
"people talk about their extraordinary grandchildren, I actually have one." That's what she's referring to.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
He says sweetie things about his grandkids all the time!
SamKnause
(13,087 posts)grandchildren many times.
I watch all his speeches, rallies, YouTube clips, interviews, debates, etc.
I recognized the reference immediately and found her tone off putting.
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)There was another thread, but the OP deleted it. How did this come up?
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I know I certainly do. I think Hillary's comment is kind of inartful - i.e., implying that her grandchild is more extraordinary than anyone else's - but I don't think there's any particular malice behind it.
Peregrine Took
(7,412 posts)Its mind boggling and so self centered - i.e. if they are great how great must YOU be to be their grandparent. Quite "Trumpish" really.!
Bragging is bragging and its just loutish behavior.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)prayin4rain
(2,065 posts)It's a way to express how much a person adores their grandchild (spouse, friend, child, etc.) in a joking, lighthearted manner.
Cannot BELIEVE this is an issue.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Hillary Clinton criticized for thinking her own grandchild is extraordinary.
Instead, she should go on TV and tell everyone how much she can't stand her own pathetic grandchild. I'm sure everyone here who is criticizing her now would totally approve of that.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)that most Bernie supporters here agree with you.
BooScout
(10,406 posts)Over on FB someone posted on the Planned Parenthood page that voting for Hillary would give you genital warts....I kid you not.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,798 posts)Every grandparent I've ever known has gone through the "Have you seen the world's first and best and only grandchild?" phase. Expected and not exceptional.
In other words, no big deal.
FloridaBlues
(4,002 posts)You are really digging into the mud to think this is a diss of Bernie or his grandkids. Wow.
God forbid that someone thinks her grand kids are extrodinary, most people do.
oasis
(49,321 posts)It's possible Hillary and Bill shared this vision with each other.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)"compared to most other grandchildren, mine is extraordinarily privileged"?
Faux pas
(14,643 posts)put her on his ticket
WhereIsTony
(2 posts)1. Hillary has done a lot in support of adopted and foster children, so the bizarre interpretation she was taking a swipe at them is ridiculous.
2. Bernie was not really mentioned or referred to.
3. I keep hearing Bernie frequently uses the word extraordinary to describe his grandkids, but I cannot find any links or examples. Not saying he hasn't said it, but it hardly a signature phrase.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)This might have been one of those moments. But, maybe not. It's so hard to tell with her which is why even when she says something that might be innocent we can't be sure.
Ino
(3,366 posts)that falls very flat.