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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAccording Clinton, in 2008 Obama wasn't electable either...
Bill was trying to do two things with this statement: linking Obama to Jackson in voters' minds and suggesting that Obama can't attract enough white voters to get elected President, so Hillary is the "electable" Democrat. His was seeking to pigeonhole Obama as the "black" candidate -- not only as a matter of pigmentation but also as a matter of voter appeal.
Clinton's campaign operatives were more blatant than the ex-President, shooting out emails comparing Obama and Jackson, noting that in 1988, Jackson won the South Carolina primary with 54% of the vote (to 19% for Al Gore and only 18% for Michael Dukakis, the eventual Democratic nominee).
The Clinton campaign message was transparent: although Obama can win enough black votes to win a few primaries, but he can't prevail in states where whites comprise a huge majority of voters, and certainly isn't as "electable" as Hillary in the November election.
Clinton's campaign operatives were more blatant than the ex-President, shooting out emails comparing Obama and Jackson, noting that in 1988, Jackson won the South Carolina primary with 54% of the vote (to 19% for Al Gore and only 18% for Michael Dukakis, the eventual Democratic nominee).
The Clinton campaign message was transparent: although Obama can win enough black votes to win a few primaries, but he can't prevail in states where whites comprise a huge majority of voters, and certainly isn't as "electable" as Hillary in the November election.
As you can see the "electable" argument is something Clinton has used before. The Democratic Primary in 2008 clearly showed who the "unelectable" candidate was. And, much like this year, it was Hillary Clinton.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/white-voters-deserve-more_b_83604.html
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According Clinton, in 2008 Obama wasn't electable either... (Original Post)
draa
Jan 2016
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Bill Clinton's point was that Obama wouldn't necessarily get the nomination.
Eric J in MN
Jan 2016
#1
Hillary's "electability" is based on name recognition, not an actual record of winning tough races.
Green Forest
Jan 2016
#6
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)1. Bill Clinton's point was that Obama wouldn't necessarily get the nomination.
It wasn't about who was more electable in the general election.
draa
(975 posts)2. Which is the same argument being made today.
Nobody's talking about being "electable" in a primary. That would just be silly.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)3. yeah, we heard a lot of that.
I suspect that he ran a hell of a lot better than she would have, actually, in the general that year.
Ino
(3,366 posts)4. Hillary in 2008: "He cannot win."
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/23933035/ns/politics-decision_08/t/richardson-endorsement-still-irks-bill-clinton/
ABC News reported that Hillary Clinton lobbied (Bill) Richardson hard, claiming Obama would lose in the general election. "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win," she reportedly said.
ABC News reported that Hillary Clinton lobbied (Bill) Richardson hard, claiming Obama would lose in the general election. "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win," she reportedly said.
draa
(975 posts)5. Hahaha, was she freaking out when she said that.
Sounds like she was more worried than confident.
Great find by the way. Thanks.
Ino
(3,366 posts)7. Her actual meaning is kind of up in the air...
"He can't win," as in "He'll lose the GE." In which case, she was wrong.
OR
"He can't win," as in "It's inconceivable that I'll lose. It's imperative that I win!" In which case, it's the I'm Inevitable Queen-Bee panicking.
And she was wrong
Green Forest
(232 posts)6. Hillary's "electability" is based on name recognition, not an actual record of winning tough races.
When people get to know Hillary's unlikeable, untrustworthy, lying Rovian self in a tough race, as they did in 2008, she loses. Fast forward to 2016....