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Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:20 PM Jan 2016

Here is the difference between the two campaigns:

I've done some phone banking for Bernie. It is a scripted, no pressure call made to determine which candidate a person is supporting. If the caller is undecided or leaning Bernie another volunteer will call back later. If a person is definitely a Bernie supporter, we ask if they would like to volunteer. If so, another Volunteer will call them at a later date. No donation requests are made and we always thank everybody for their time and wish them a good day.

I was contacted by a Clinton phone bank volunteer today. After a 5 minute spill about how important every vote was and how close the race was, she asked, "Can I put you down for a $150 donation?"

I replied, "I'm sorry but all my money is going to Bernie."

Her reply, "Click."

She simply hung up on me. I can't get over how rude she was.

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Here is the difference between the two campaigns: (Original Post) Live and Learn Jan 2016 OP
Wow, $150? HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #1
Nope. That was the first and only question. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #2
Well, you know, in some people's worlds, that is really loose change. The differences run deep.. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #4
Well that kind of clues you in to who they're aiming for. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #5
And such a large donation, too! Most of the people who have been hurt by this tblue37 Jan 2016 #11
in all fairness Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #30
If they call back, I'll be sure to ask. If they would have claimed to be from the Bernie campaign, Live and Learn Jan 2016 #33
could very well have been Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #35
Yep, I gave up donating over the phone long ago. I always ask Live and Learn Jan 2016 #37
Do you live in a middle class neighborhood? MattSh Jan 2016 #60
The difference in campaign's: Hillary has substance: Sanders is an empty suit lewebley3 Jan 2016 #48
What a ridiculous and pointless comment. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #56
Just the truth lewebley3 Jan 2016 #62
Tell them that Hillary can go to Chase and get it, or Goldman Sacks, they've got plenty of money. YOHABLO Jan 2016 #53
tell her to send cruz to get it. he's got experience roguevalley Jan 2016 #54
Wow...hung up on you? Punkingal Jan 2016 #3
Yep. I was interested to hear what they would say about it but was shocked by the rudeness. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #8
Have you gotten her emails yet ? INdemo Jan 2016 #6
Surprisingly, I haven't and I have been checking. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #10
I know... intersectionality Jan 2016 #31
Have you got anything from Sanders as to how he would break up lewebley3 Jan 2016 #49
Yes, we do and his plan has been posted on DU numerous times. Live and Learn Jan 2016 #57
Well you know of course what most would like to say about the rudeness but wont dont you? INdemo Jan 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author TDale313 Jan 2016 #9
No money? No respect! (eom) HassleCat Jan 2016 #12
Both were rude to me. AllTooEasy Jan 2016 #13
I'd be quite surprised if that is true regarding the Bernie volunteer. Live and Learn Jan 2016 #14
I've Made Calls For Bernie... Your Comments Don't Compare ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #17
I think you replied to the wrong person. I agree completely with you. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #19
Yes, I See That... In A Hurry... Sorry! ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #25
Im not sure where they got that from either. INdemo Jan 2016 #50
My Post To Live and Learn... Was Meant For You... n/t ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #26
That caller certainly went off script. INdemo Jan 2016 #44
$150 - Well as you all know the Middle Class makes $250,000/yr so you all can afford it Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #15
I can't believe you stayed on the phone MissDeeds Jan 2016 #16
I wanted them to know why I wouldn't support her but I never got the chance to tell them. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #21
Funny you should mention that. Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #18
Yet another glitch in the Clinton campaign Proserpina Jan 2016 #20
I 2nd that Le Taz Hot INdemo Jan 2016 #45
I have to wonder whether HRC has hired a telemarketing firm to make snagglepuss Jan 2016 #52
Quite possible. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #58
That's how a friend described his phone bank work, too. Beartracks Jan 2016 #22
Yep. The Bernie campaign has actually made phone banking and easy and pleasant experience. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #23
Thanks for this OP Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #47
BTTF 2: "Hey kid, how about $100 to save the clock tower?" Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #24
It appears that the Clinton Camp has failed to learn. RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #27
Hahaha, I'd have said draa Jan 2016 #28
I've phone banked for her and have never asked for a donation... Agschmid Jan 2016 #29
Didn't sound like one but no way to be sure. All I do know is that it was extremely rude. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #32
Well I can tell you we certainly aren't trained to be rude. Agschmid Jan 2016 #38
This thread is just an excuse for Sanders supporters to bash Hillary supporters and talk about how Metric System Jan 2016 #34
Not at all, it really did happen and I was actually quite shocked. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #36
Well isn't that what people do when they know they're losing? underthematrix Jan 2016 #51
Do they have you trying to convince people to vote for her? Live and Learn Jan 2016 #39
It's the exact same. Agschmid Jan 2016 #40
Thanks for the reply. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #42
I would have told her to ask Goldman. Helen Borg Jan 2016 #41
+1 TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #43
I would love to base MyNameGoesHere Jan 2016 #46
Is that what you got from this? Did you not understand that I was already a Bernie supporter? Live and Learn Jan 2016 #55
I am glad you support Sanders MyNameGoesHere Jan 2016 #59
I have only received one phone call from them so it is all I have to judge by. Live and Learn Jan 2016 #61
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
5. Well that kind of clues you in to who they're aiming for.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jan 2016

Also a bit crass to go straight for the donation.

tblue37

(65,273 posts)
11. And such a large donation, too! Most of the people who have been hurt by this
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jan 2016

rigged economy do not have $150 lying around! In fact, for many of them, even a $5 or $10 donation is a sacrifice.

The fact that Bernie has accumulated so much campaign money from so very many small donors shows that his donors are the sort of people who must sacrifice to come up with the money they donate, but they donate nevertheless because they truly support him and believe he will fight for them.

Many Bernie supporters also donate frequently, though still in small amounts, because they simply cannot afford to donate too much at one time, so they donate a bit more each time they get another paycheck or Social Security payment.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
30. in all fairness
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jan 2016

with the name recognition that comes with the HRC brand, I'm sure tons of scams have been concocted by hijacking her name as well. I'm not so quick to see it as legit, especially in these desperate times.

Would have been interesting to hear where they would've like the check to have been sent to.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
33. If they call back, I'll be sure to ask. If they would have claimed to be from the Bernie campaign,
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jan 2016

I would have suspected a scam but the spiel sure sounded legitimate.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
35. could very well have been
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:09 PM
Jan 2016

but immense opportunity moments like this can tend to draw forth a lot of scum from the rot in society.

Rick Scott I'm sure runs a class on how to cultivate a similar variety of rot.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
37. Yep, I gave up donating over the phone long ago. I always ask
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jan 2016

them to send something through the snail mail and verify it first.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
60. Do you live in a middle class neighborhood?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:16 AM
Jan 2016

I've heard they all make $250,000 so $150 is just pocket change.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
53. Tell them that Hillary can go to Chase and get it, or Goldman Sacks, they've got plenty of money.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jan 2016

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
6. Have you gotten her emails yet ?
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jan 2016

I am signed up to get Bernie's campaign emails but have no idea how Hillary's got my email.

intersectionality

(106 posts)
31. I know...
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:52 PM
Jan 2016

I had to unsubscribe twice and finally just flagged them as spam. However they acquired my info I would like to know and then let the person who gave it / sold it to them an earful.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
49. Have you got anything from Sanders as to how he would break up
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jan 2016

banks with out a plan, or votes.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
57. Yes, we do and his plan has been posted on DU numerous times.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jan 2016

I trust you know how to use the search function.

Response to Live and Learn (Original post)

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
13. Both were rude to me.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jan 2016

I didn't get the click either way. I told them both no, as I'm not ready to support a candidate. The condescending Bernie caller treated me like I was betraying the liberal community. He also cpuldnt answer my questions with amything better than "Just Because". No manners, no class, very un-Bernie-like. The Clinton supporter just demanded money with no substantive argument. The more I communicate with diehard Clinton and Bernie suppoorters, the more I wish Biden was running.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
14. I'd be quite surprised if that is true regarding the Bernie volunteer.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jan 2016

The calls are not made to campaign for Bernie but to find out which candidate one is supporting. If they had called you previously and you were undecided, it should have been a well trained volunteer calling you back. I can assure you that Bernie and the campaign continually stress the importance of being pleasant and thanking people.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
17. I've Made Calls For Bernie... Your Comments Don't Compare
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:16 PM
Jan 2016

to how we approach he other person. Don't know WHERE you got that kind of questioning. We're told NOT to be pushy and stick to script. No rudeness and no requests for money.

Just saying'

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
25. Yes, I See That... In A Hurry... Sorry!
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:38 PM
Jan 2016

It was the one who said he/she was undecided right before you. I'll have to repost.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
50. Im not sure where they got that from either.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 05:28 PM
Jan 2016

How many times during the original orientation do they mention courtesy and staying on script. So I'm wondering about that too.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
44. That caller certainly went off script.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jan 2016

there is a question in the script something about Do you plan on caucusing.
Have you decided whom you will support..if they say Hillary ..Well thank you for your time and end call,register result and move on.
We Sanders callers never ask for money if they are interested someone else will make the call etc.
if you remember the callers name and when and what county .there is a number to call to complain.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
18. Funny you should mention that.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:16 PM
Jan 2016

Iirc, I think I was calling into South Carolina (I think I've hit all the early primary states at this point) and TWO people mentioned how nice the Sanders' supporters were and what a big contrast with the callers from the Hillary campaign.

Even if they're undecided or even Republicans, ALWAYS be courteous and respectful and that's what they'll remember about the campaign and the candidate. And you're right about the fundraising. It's something we've never been asked to do for them.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
20. Yet another glitch in the Clinton campaign
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jan 2016

well, given what we know about her fanatics on this site, it's not at all surprising.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
52. I have to wonder whether HRC has hired a telemarketing firm to make
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jan 2016

fundraising calls as the calls from the HRC campaign that are being described seem to be strictly fundraising rather than calls looking for volunteers or committed voters. The sort of rudeness being described is for me the tip off that people making these calls have a quota and aren't simply volunteers.

Beartracks

(12,806 posts)
22. That's how a friend described his phone bank work, too.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jan 2016

He was making Bernie calls a few nights ago, and that's exactly how he described the process, right down to thanking everyone and being polite to everyone. He was even able to do it from home, rather than the local HQ.

Sorry 'bout your Hillary call, tho.

=================

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
27. It appears that the Clinton Camp has failed to learn.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jan 2016

However, the Sanders Camp has.
Let's see how this turns out. Will the election be won with large donations from few people, or will it be won with small donations from many more people, and more of an emphasis on getting people to participate in the process, rather than simply to ask for larger and larger donations?

draa

(975 posts)
28. Hahaha, I'd have said
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jan 2016

"Yep, I'll send you a check" and I'd have hung up first. That way she'll call back and waste more time trying to get my money.

I think I could have drug that out for a few hours. Especially if I kept telling her to call back after my wife gets home who, somehow, just never makes it home when I think she will. (which she never will because I'm divorced).

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
29. I've phone banked for her and have never asked for a donation...
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jan 2016

Not something we are ever supposed to do.

Sure it wasn't a scam?

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
38. Well I can tell you we certainly aren't trained to be rude.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jan 2016

If it was a real call every campaign unfortunately has its "bad eggs"... Sorry you got treated like that.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
34. This thread is just an excuse for Sanders supporters to bash Hillary supporters and talk about how
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:06 PM
Jan 2016

rude, terrible and evil we are.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
39. Do they have you trying to convince people to vote for her?
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jan 2016

What is the purpose of the phone banking for Clinton? I am curious if it is similar to ours or not.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
40. It's the exact same.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jan 2016

I don't often phone bank, I usually am out canvassing. Today I knocked on 90 doors, I spoke to 20 NH voters and my goals are to identify supporters, work to gain more supporters, and always ask for volunteers if they are supporting her.

Since I've actually voted for Bernie I usually bring that up when I speak to Sanders folks and we usually have a pretty good conversation about why we support the candidate we support.

To be honest I've only had once bad experience while knocking doors and it was someone who was going to be voting in the republican primary.

We have the same goals, build support for our candidates.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
46. I would love to base
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jan 2016

a whole campaign on one phone call. But I am afraid I would have a brain aneurysm by doing something like that.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
55. Is that what you got from this? Did you not understand that I was already a Bernie supporter?
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jan 2016

But since you asked, I will happily tell you why I support Bernie over Hillary:

* He didn't vote for the Iraq War.
* He doesn't take money from corporations.
* He doesn't support the industrial prison complex and the militarization of the police.
* He understands that economic inequality has reached a breaking point and will do something about it.
* He understands that climate change is the greatest threat to our children's future and will work hard to slow global warming.
* He is honest, has integrity and has consistently fought for economic and social justice.
* He understands that an educated populace will strengthen the country and that education should be given freely and encouraged.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
59. I am glad you support Sanders
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jan 2016

I am confused as to how you think you could use one phone call to define a group of anything. It was a passive-aggressive hit piece, and when you can admit to it you will lead a happier life.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
61. I have only received one phone call from them so it is all I have to judge by.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jan 2016

If I receive a nice one from them, I will let you know.

My life is perfectly fine but thanks for caring.

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