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Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:59 PM

Pursuing principled bills that pin Republicans to a position is one way Bernie will progress us

For some reason the Hillary supporters attacking Bernie think the world will stop or at least Obamacare will end if Bernie submits or has a congressperson propose a single payer system against Republican and corporate Democratic party opposition. I am not sure they know that just means that vote is defeated.

However, it has a lot of benefits. It causes media debate which fosters information. Further and more importantly it reassures the base of the Politicians beliefs and that the Politician is fighting for him and it pins down the opposition. In future elections it becomes an issue and a basis of support for the party. Single payer is supported by the American People. Putting it up and losing because the Republicans will vote against anything Bernie does in the first few years or maybe even in his whole first term is part of the process of building public support for a party and a movement.

Secondly, the Hillary supporters seem to think that if you put a vote up for a vote and it loses, you can never do it again. Bernie and the progressive democrats in congress can put it to a vote every week. This by itself has the same good results put up above.

If you think this is just words. Please note that this is exactly what happens in the Republican party. Not saying that their principles are correct but they have a much better understanding of long term strategy then the mushy centrists of the current Democratic Party leadership. Reagan did not come out of a vacuum. Republicans lost election after election but kept consistent messaging until they are in a position to enact what they want. In fact, when Reagan ran, he was considered a joke. Nixon lost multiple times till he won. Republicans have much better understanding of the valude of consistent messaging over time even though their principles are consistently wrong.

You can even see this now in Congress. There is a reason that the Republicans put a repeal Obamacare bill up to vote every few weeks and it was one of Ryan's first acts as speaker. It is NOT because they think it has any chance of success. They know even if passed, Obama would veto it. So why do they do it. Its because its valuable for the Republican base and the Hillary supporters clearly do not understand this when their main line of attack is that Bernie's programs will be opposed and clearly voted down by the current Republican Congress.

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Rilgin Jan 2016 OP
LonePirate Jan 2016 #1

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Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:32 PM

1. A media debate isn't always beneficial. See the ACA.

The media perpetuated the Repub myths and I suspect they will do the same with Sanders' health care bill(s).

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