Brand Spanking New NBC-WSJ National Poll -HRC 59% (+3) SBS 34% (-3) MOM 2%

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Hillary Clinton leads rival Bernie Sanders by 25 points nationally ahead of Sunday's final Democratic debate and the all-important Iowa caucuses, according to the latest results from the new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

The debate will air on NBC at 9:00 pm ET.

Clinton is the first choice of 59 percent of Democratic primary voters, while Sanders gets the support of 34 percent. Martin O'Malley gets 2 percent.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/poll-clinton-holds-25-point-national-lead-over-sanders-n498071

[Thinkingabout]

1. Thanks, time goes on.

[mcar]

2. K&R

[snoringvoter]

3. Thank you for keeping us informed of your polls every day, unnecessarily

National polls means shit during the primaries. State polls are more relevant. Iowa has both Sanders and Clinton tied up, which means Sander is still on the rise.

Sanders has 13 points advantage in New Hampshire. If he exceeds those expected results, then there goes Clinton, again.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Thank you for patronizing me on an anonymous internet board.

Thank you for keeping us informed of your polls every day, unnecessarily

Thank you for patronizing me on an anonymous internet board.



Always respectfully,
DSB

[snoringvoter]

11. If you are posting polls every day with regards to national polls instead of state polls, you are

not showing the real polls during the primaries. national polls are more relevant in the GE. Have a little common sense there, DSB.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. There you go again..

There you go again, patronizing me:

Have a little common sense there, DSB.

Always respectfully,

DSB


P.S. Since I am a stand up guy I will provide aggregate polling information from the early voting states of Nevada and South Carolina:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-5337.html


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-4167.html

[stonecutter357]

19. he has enuff common sense to not vote for Sanders.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

28. Wow, attacking the candidate for something a poster did.

Stay classy.

[stonecutter357]

30. do you think DemocratSinceBirth needs

common sense ?

[Sheepshank]

44. Ahh the bitter bile is hard to swallow

I get it. Most Hillary supporters get it. Your constant confirmations and insults are somehow predictable. Maybe the person needing a little common sense is your own self?

[snoringvoter]

51. Enjoy your parties.

You know, the ones that no-one will show up for.

[Sheepshank]

55. Well, thanks for coming to DU so you can insult the supporters of the winning candidate

...I don't think your strategy is going to help Bernie, however.

[snoringvoter]

57. I'm not insulting the supporters of the winning candidate, when it is

Bernard Sanders.

Clinton is already finished and all the states will confirm it. Super-delegates will reverse their endorsements and go to Bernie as soon as they see the writing that is been on the wall for quite some time.

[Ed Suspicious]

59. He's not informing, he's cheerleading.

He's not informing, he's cheerleading.

[Cali_Democrat]

70. How do you know what he posts every day?

You only joined DU a few days ago.

[snoringvoter]

72. I joined on Monday, yes

I have lurked before I joined for about two months.

Do you normally ask new posters questions like that?

I thought the purpose was to elect Democrats.

[yeoman6987]

77. Yes we do when rude to a long term DUer

I mean it is unusual for someone new to criticize in that way.

[snoringvoter]

81. Who is trying to push Sanders supporters down

with this useless beauty contest information.

[yeoman6987]

85. Yep.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

90. I am no better or worse than any other poster but I long for the day when long term DUers ...

I am no better or worse than any other poster but I long for the day when long term DUers were treated with a modicum of respect.

[Kingofalldems]

93. Wow. I thought you were a Hillary supporter.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7529903

I don't see anyone trying to suppress Bernie supporters.

[riversedge]

18. Welcome to DU. Enjoy the Brand new poll.

[66 dmhlt]

35. You're absolutely right. That's because, as we all know ...

ONLY Iowa & New Hampshire are allowed to elect the next president.
We can just forget the other 48 states!
(D you work as a cherry-picker in your regular job, too?)

[snoringvoter]

37. There's a phenomena called the domino effect.

Just watch.

[Sheepshank]

46. Hope eternal. That dominoe effect is pretty haphazard. Wouldn't bet the farm on that nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. That phenomenon would have more saliency if the entire nation was as homogeneous as...

That phenomenon would have more saliency if the entire nation was as homogeneous as Iowa and new Hampshire but alas it isn't.

[66 dmhlt]

50. You're absolutely right - AGAIN! Because we all know how well that ...

"Domino effect" theory worked when Nixon used it in Vietnam.

[ucrdem]

4. Hillary +3

She's going to have another good night tonight!

[riversedge]

20. She did great on George S Sunday show today--clear answers, relaxed while Sanders was

agitated and ran around the bush. George has to ask him 2-3 times to get any response. Wonder if these interviews were a preview to tonight's debate?

[ucrdem]

32. If she takes Bill's advice per Patrick Healy's NYT article yesterday

the fur is really going to fly. If I were Bernie I'd be nervous too.

[KittyWampus]

39. Linkity-link? Anyone. Pretty please?

Have a great day everyone!

[ucrdem]

49. found it:

POLITICS

Clinton Campaign Underestimated Sanders Strengths, Allies Say
By PATRICK HEALY JAN. 16, 2016

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/us/politics/hillary-clinton-regrets-not-attacking-bernie-sanders-earlier-her-allies-say.html?_r=0

[Number23]

88. This is an interesting article

Several Clinton advisers are also regretting that they did not push for more debates, where Mrs. Clinton excels, to more skillfully marginalize Mr. Sanders over his Senate votes in support of the gun industry and the enormous costs and likely tax increases tied to his big-government agenda.

Instead, Mrs. Clinton, who entered the race as the prohibitive favorite, played it safe, opting for as few debates as possible, which were scheduled at times when viewership was likely to be low — like this Sunday at 9 p.m. on a long holiday weekend.

That cracks me up. Considering that Sanders supporters were for a while the ones hollering endlessly about this. But that pretty much stopped after the second debate. I do think it's odd that the article is acting as though she "opted" for few debates as though that was her call to make. It should not have been if it was.

[enid602]

6. frantic

Frantically k-ing and r-ing before this post is hidden.

[MoonRiver]

9. Ain't that the sad truth.

[enid602]

21. hides

Yesterday an OP was hidden within 10 minutes. It merely said that Chelsea was right, and posted the following URL (from a progressive blog) that I quote in part:

"If courts invalidate just that part of the hypothetical Sanders law, remember that the remainder of the bill would remain in effect. In other words, if the courts block a federal authority to set up a health insurance body in a state in which it is unwelcome, the defunding of Medicaid, Medicare, CHIP, and ACA exchanges remain in full effect, leaving the residents of those states - including their elderly citizens - with only private insurance as an option for health coverage."

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/1/15/chelsea-clinton-was-right-everyones-health-care-is-threatened-under-bernies-plan

How is that disruptive, hurtful, over the top or whatever?

[MoonRiver]

25. It isn't.

nuff said

[KittyWampus]

42. That's a very good explanation.

[Rose Siding]

14. lol and K & R

[MeNMyVolt]

7. K&R!

[oasis]

8. "Brand spanking new" polls rule.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Interesting tidbit

The new poll also finds 79 percent of Democratic primary voters saying that they could see themselves supporting Clinton, versus 18 percent who couldn't (+61) — essentially unchanged from December's 82 percent-to-17 percent score (+65).


By comparison, 66 percent of Democratic primary voters say they could see themselves supporting Sanders, versus 25 percent who couldn't (+41), and O'Malley has a 22 percent-to-51 percent score (-29).

[oasis]

15. Thanks. Enjoy tonight's debate. (eom)

[stonecutter357]

13. K&R!

[Robbins]

16. loL

NBC just had a poll this week with it as 15 point lead now right on cue on debate day from WSJ they produce one which claims
she is increasing her lead lol

this flies in the face of every other poll.

Clinton's desperate and lying attacks make no sense is she is increasing lead.even this one continues to show bernie is more
electable than trump

Clintonworld has been quiet during this week but all it takes is poll to threw in our faces to see clinton people backno mention of policys or her desperate and lying attacks on bernie which will gurante large amounts of bernie supporters would never vote for her.

and it's iowa and NH which matter at this point.MSM can produce all the flawled polls they want.likely voter model is flawed in this
election.

[Fla Dem]

29. Keep swinging for the fence. Might make it one day. nt

[riversedge]

17. GRAND. Congrats to Hillary and her Team.

[DesertRat]

22. Up 25 points!

[joeybee12]

23. Bernie ' s surge is a media creation

They want it to be close so they have more to report on.

[FreakinDJ]

27. You need to share what you been smoking

The poll doesn't include 71% of the electorate including the 43% Independent voters of whom 60% plans on voting for Bernie

[joeybee12]

38. well pass over what you're smoking

I expected denial from people who support this one note fraud

[FreakinDJ]

86. Speaking of Wall St fraud - how is Hillary

[Gene Debs]

33. If anything's a media creation, it's Clinton's inevitability. Media's been pushing that one, hard.

[joeybee12]

41. yeah, read something that is out there right now

They're piling it on Hilary lately. Bernie supporters are in their own echo chamber

[Gene Debs]

60. I bet after tonight's debate, Clinton's favorable rating will leap to 128% in a new poll.

[cantbeserious]

24. Qui Bono

eom

[FreakinDJ]

26. Dem Voters only = 29% of the Electorate

As usual they forgot to poll the 43% Independents

[leftofcool]

31. skewed poll alert!

[Sheepshank]

48. Some are just upset they didn't get to clickety click participate in the poll to help the results. Nt

[406-Boz]

34. Please let me know when and where to vote in the "National" primary

Thanks

[ucrdem]

61. Tuesday November 8.

[snoringvoter]

74. Oh. So where's the "primary" polls then.

That's what we are focusing on right now.

[406-Boz]

80. Bern baby Bern

[Plucketeer]

36. It's been a really tough week in Camp Coronation

We should go easy on them lest they pledge not to vote after the primaries!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. Your musing went above this poor plebeian's head.

Could you please elaborate?




Thank you in advance.


Respectfully,
DSB

[One of the 99]

43. The only poll that counts

is the one on election day.

[Politicub]

45. Cue the whining and gnashing of teeth

Oh, wait. It's already started.

[leftofcool]

91. Yea, every time a "real" poll shows she is winning.

[Sancho]

52. Good news!

[Bleacher Creature]

53. Two weeks ago, polls were unreliable garbage.

Last week, they were the greatest thing ever!!!

Here we go again.

[SmittynMo]

54. You missed something here

The NBC/WSJ poll of 400 Democratic primary voters, conducted Jan. 9-13, has a margin of error of 4.9 percentage points.

What a joke!!! 400 voters? Why waste time posting this?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

62. Thank you for bringing that to my attention:

Thank you for bringing that to my attention:

The NBC/WSJ poll of 400 Democratic primary voters, conducted Jan. 9-13, has a margin of error of 4.9 percentage points.

Secretary Clinton can be as high as 64% and Senator Sanders can be as low as 29%




Always respectfully,
DSB

[Dawson Leery]

95. The CBS poll has just 489 and a 6 percent MOE.

That poll showed Bernie closing the gap.

[Tom Rinaldo]

56. This also: " Bernie Sanders outperforms Hillary Clinton in a hypothetical general-election matchup..

... against Donald Trump, according to the results from the new NBC New/Wall Street Journal poll.

Sanders leads Trump by 15 points nationally over Trump, 54 percent to 39 percent, while Clinton's advantage over Trump is 10 points, 51 percent to 41 percent."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

64. No dispute from me, sir.

You might want to take it up with the gentleman from Post 54 who asserted the poll doesn't meet scientific muster.





Always respectfully,
DSB

[Tom Rinaldo]

65. My positon now is that national polls are currently lagging indicators

No matter how well they are done. The first results from Iowa and New Hampshire will totally reshuffle the deck, one way or another. I am just pleased to now see Sanders also included when match up polls against Republicans are released

[Loki]

58. If

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;

Never lose your faith, and believe that we will always have the best candidates, real people with real values not programmed to hate all those who are different. We are the ones with the moral compass, each and every one of them. I'm proud to be a liberal Democrat and I refuse to participate in the infighting because I am Democrat first , last and without apology.

[OhZone]

63. Well said! Oh Yeah! n/t

[NastyRiffraff]

69. +1,000

Well said, Loki. Love that poem. Here's more:

If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

[BlueMTexpat]

79. Thanks, Loki.

Lots of exploding heads right now ...

[Number23]

89. Wow. This is an incredibly classy and inspirational post

real people with real values not programmed to hate all those who are different.

This is what I was always taught was supposed to be the definition of a liberal. What stands them apart from "liberals."

Glad that there are still some here on DU.

[totodeinhere]

66. National polls are meaningless beauty contests at this point.

The polls to watch right now are polls in early primary and caucus states, not national polls. And in early states Bernie is doing quite well. Thank you.

[Rose Siding]

78. South Carolina's an early state

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-south-carolina-presidential-democratic-primary

[totodeinhere]

87. Yes, and polls from South Carolina are significant. But so are polls from Iowa and

New Hampshire.

[Number23]

92. Good googly moogly

That is fucking EPIC right there.

[SHRED]

67. National polling at this point of the race is very inaccurate

[Fast Walker 52]

68. this flies in the face of other articles going on about Bernie narrowing the lead

so which is it?

[sulphurdunn]

71. NBC-WSJ poll, January 2008

HRC: 47%

Obama: 32%

[snoringvoter]

76. Thank you for the reminder

It is 2008, all over again, only on a grander scale.

[riversedge]

94. You forget that Sanders is not Obama.

[Dawson Leery]

96. And Hillary's lead is much larger this time.

[riversedge]

97. 1+

[sulphurdunn]

99. You forget that Hillary Clinton

is still Hillary Clinton.

[workinclasszero]

73. Thanks for the info DSB

[lunamagica]

75. K&R. Go Hillary!

[BlueMTexpat]

82. K & R, DSB!

The DU Home page looks more like Free Republic these days with all the GOPer-memed anti-HRC posts up.

There are too many who seem to forget that this is a DEMOCRATIC website.

Of course, we all know that NBC is part of the DNC "conspiracy" against one of our candidates.

[Green Forest]

83. Dem voters don't determine GE outcome. How about head-to-head GE matchups especially how independent voters break down?

Hmm?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

84. Sir or madame, you are free to start your own thread(s).

Always respectfully,
DSB