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bigtree

(85,977 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:26 PM Jan 2016

David Brock's statement regarding Politico accusations

My statement regarding Sen. Sanders' health records: pic.twitter.com/uC7n8aHjP9
— David Brock (@davidbrockdc) January 17, 2016



https://twitter.com/davidbrockdc/status/688586034154729473/photo/1

from Crooks and Liars:

...notice the source. Anonymous, unauthorized to preview the strategy, but still leaking the strategy...

David Brock just released a statement about this. Given the anonymous "Democratic" source, and the fact that Brock had not been contacted for comment by POLITICO, I'm going with the theory that someone is playing some games here.

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David Brock's statement regarding Politico accusations (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2016 OP
See Jeff Weaver, Tad Devine, Michael Briggs...........losing campaigns anyone? leftofcool Jan 2016 #1
Lol. Pathetic Hillary campaign. cali Jan 2016 #5
David Brock, snoringvoter Jan 2016 #2
not according to politico dsc Jan 2016 #18
David Brock has a record of lying. start with anita hill. defending brock against lying is like roguevalley Jan 2016 #27
I have no idea who is telling the truth here dsc Jan 2016 #28
Lying pos. Proven liar. that sick creep cali Jan 2016 #3
that's not proof that the Politico story is true bigtree Jan 2016 #13
Oh please. Just add that to the other evidence cali Jan 2016 #15
you'd have us discredit all of Media Matters reporting on Bush and republicans bigtree Jan 2016 #17
Podesta, who presumably knows what is going on, felt it necessary to tblue37 Jan 2016 #32
lol n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2016 #4
It's become a pattern. It's how they fund raise. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #6
Those fundraising emails were sent at lightning speed. Metric System Jan 2016 #11
"Float an attack. Get it out there, then deny it. " ucrdem Jan 2016 #20
Now he can chew out the Clinton campaign for rebuking him :) Babel_17 Jan 2016 #7
The Clinton campaign was reacting to the report, assuming it was correct. Metric System Jan 2016 #12
Well, they do know Brock, and his ethics and MO Babel_17 Jan 2016 #16
The Sanders campaign looked to make money off this so fast. Metric System Jan 2016 #8
Correction: Kentonio Jan 2016 #14
We made lots of money, and we beat the fuck out of another lie. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #21
Except there was no attack, just an article about a possible attack. Metric System Jan 2016 #22
I'm no longer permitting intellectually dishonest statements. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #24
Brock destroyed Anita Hill. He lied then and he's lying now. Punkingal Jan 2016 #9
I see a golden opportunity for lawsuit #3. ucrdem Jan 2016 #10
Professional paid liar says what? Sorry, liar, the cat's out of the bag. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #19
Exactly. ucrdem Jan 2016 #23
Yep. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #25
He is a liar. It's who he is. azmom Jan 2016 #37
On CNN today, Hillary did not deny they had called for Bernie's records. Green Forest Jan 2016 #26
that's not a credible standard of proof bigtree Jan 2016 #29
No denial from Hillary and a strong rebuke from John Podesta is good enough for me. Green Forest Jan 2016 #30
lashing out at me doesn't make your case bigtree Jan 2016 #31
If you want to stand by the man who lied about Anita Hill, go ahead. Green Forest Jan 2016 #33
no proof bigtree Jan 2016 #34
That's what climate deniers say, too. Green Forest Jan 2016 #35
that's some slippery politics you're practicing bigtree Jan 2016 #36
lol Green Forest Jan 2016 #40
From Salon article about his book: catnhatnh Jan 2016 #38
whereas bigtree Jan 2016 #39
Well-you show me a link catnhatnh Jan 2016 #41
lol bigtree Jan 2016 #42
 

snoringvoter

(178 posts)
2. David Brock,
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:28 PM
Jan 2016

Politico doesn't believe you. They have several independent confirmations of your backfired plans again.

Do not think we are stupid. It is the Clinton campaign that is of one mind.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
18. not according to politico
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jan 2016

they have one, count it one, unnamed source. their own story says that.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
27. David Brock has a record of lying. start with anita hill. defending brock against lying is like
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jan 2016

defending satan against being evil.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
28. I have no idea who is telling the truth here
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jan 2016

but I do know that Politico doesn't have three sources, it has one, and that one is anonymous. Again, their own story says that.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. Lying pos. Proven liar. that sick creep
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jan 2016

is the same guy who had no compunction lying to destroy Anita hill to advance Thomas. Now he's lying to tear down bernie to advance hill.

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
13. that's not proof that the Politico story is true
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jan 2016

...it has the weakest of sources and it's been denied.

You have nothing but all of this invective and insinuation to back up yours and Politico's claims. That's just slippery politics and there's really no excuse for it.

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
17. you'd have us discredit all of Media Matters reporting on Bush and republicans
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jan 2016

...just to support Politico on this suspiciously sourced accusation of theirs.

Pathetic.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
32. Podesta, who presumably knows what is going on, felt it necessary to
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jan 2016

Twitterchide Brock and tell him to chill about the planned ageist attack.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
7. Now he can chew out the Clinton campaign for rebuking him :)
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:33 PM
Jan 2016
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-campaign-rebukes-top-ally-david-brock

CHARLESTON, South Carolina – The Hillary Clinton campaign Saturday night publicly rebuked one of their top outside allies after reports that he planned to make an issue of rival Bernie Sanders’ health – reports he now denies. Meanwhile, the Sanders campaign said they would release a letter testifying to his health in coming weeks.

“Chill out,” Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta tweeted at David Brock, who runs several pro-Clinton groups. “We’re fighting on who would make a better President, not on who has a better Physical Fitness Test.” Politico first reported earlier Saturday that Brock was planning to go on TV to call for the 74-year-old Sanders to release his medical records.

It was a rare public reprimand from a campaign to one of its top supporters – and just 24 hours before the first Democratic presidential debate of the year here. Brock has raised millions of dollars supporting Clinton and runs several groups supporting her bid, including the super PAC Correct the Record, which can coordinate directly with the Clinton campaign.


And he can go after the media for quoting the Clinton campaign.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
16. Well, they do know Brock, and his ethics and MO
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jan 2016

So I guess that earns them a pass from Brock, they can't be faulted for thinking the worst. But the Sanders campaign should give Brock the benefit of the doubt, after the Clinton campaign didn't? Is that Brock's argument? Because it's a lol hoot if it is.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
14. Correction:
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:39 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie's campaign DID make lots of money off of this very fast. Maybe Brock will learn his lesson this time.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
24. I'm no longer permitting intellectually dishonest statements.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jan 2016

A national Clinton campaign has tighter message control than anything that's ever had message control. There are less serious political forums for people who are not accustomed to national politics. But this is how national politics work. This is how the Clinton machine works. You either already know this, or you definitely should by this point in your progression.

Clinton took another blow yesterday, and she'll continue to be dealt as many blows as necessary until she figures out that dishonestly attacking Senator Sanders results in pain.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
19. Professional paid liar says what? Sorry, liar, the cat's out of the bag.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jan 2016

Once you're a liar, you're a liar. It's a big part of your definition.

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
29. that's not a credible standard of proof
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jan 2016

...it's a speculative standard which no candidate could maintain.

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
30. No denial from Hillary and a strong rebuke from John Podesta is good enough for me.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:41 PM
Jan 2016

You keep standing by the man who lied about Anita Hill.

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
33. If you want to stand by the man who lied about Anita Hill, go ahead.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:23 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary's refusal to deny the story and John Podesta's cringeworthy note to Brock is good enough for me.

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
36. that's some slippery politics you're practicing
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jan 2016

...reflective of the slippery argument you're making on behalf of Politico.

Don't you worry your little head about who I support.

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
40. lol
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:16 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary and her mouthpieces are hypocritical liars who shall reap what the sow in 2016 as they did in 2008.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
38. From Salon article about his book:
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jan 2016

But Blinded by the Right offers plenty of evidence that for Brock, lying has been a lifelong habit. During his freshman year at Berkeley, when Brock was still a Naderite liberal, he lied to a man named Andrew, who would become his lover, about the fact that he was adopted. Andrew didn't learn the truth until after he and Brock had lived together many years. While campaigning to be editor in chief of the Daily Cal at Berkeley, Brock was "caught in an embarrassing lie" about an editor he didn't like. He told the Daily Cal's outgoing editor in chief that the university's vice chancellor had phoned to complain about a story that the enemy editor had presumably mangled. It wasn't true, and Brock got caught. By this time Brock had drifted right, but he offers no evidence that this particular conflict had any ideological content. Years later, Brock leaked his American Spectator piece about Troopergate to CNN, contrary to orders from his editors, who were enforcing an embargo on it. "When confronted, I came up with a clearly implausible lie," Brock confesses. Surely lying to one's comrades wasn't part of the conservative movement's playbook. The further one gets into Brock's book, the more one starts to suspect that Brock wasn't a liar for any larger cause, but simply … a liar.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2002/03/david_brock_liar.html

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
41. Well-you show me a link
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jan 2016

to a published piece from Politico where they reveal their history of lying...Whoops, times up!
Everyone here knows what David Brock is and what the Clinton Campaign IN COORDINATION with her super-pac and skirting the law is trying to do.

The only challenge in analyzing this is deciding who of the two is behaving scummier...

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
42. lol
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jan 2016

...defending Politico and their 'Democrat familiar with the thinking' with the same sort of self-serving innuendo. The irony.

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