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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:18 PM Jan 2016

Do you approve or disapprove of Karl Rove's American Crossroads running anti-HRC ads in IA?


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Do you approve or disapprove of Karl Rove's American Crossroads running anti-HRC ads in IA? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 OP
Bernie doesn't. He would get rid of Super Pacs. Hillary must since she uses them. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #1
And Bernie has a super PAC on his side dlwickham Jan 2016 #4
Ahh yes, a union. LOL What a comparison! nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #5
still a super PAC dlwickham Jan 2016 #7
He cannot. It is illegal to coordinate. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #30
Do you know what coordinate means dlwickham Jan 2016 #40
Let's keep this kicked dlwickham Jan 2016 #2
Oh yes, let's. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #3
I am not surprised... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #8
Always sticking to the issues, the HRC folks do. Glad to see what matters. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #31
I don't understand your response. Could you please elucidate? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #32
do you have a link to the ad in question? restorefreedom Jan 2016 #6
Here DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #9
That ad looks like exactly what's posted here everyday. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #12
Rove is very clever, attacking from her left... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #16
That's how he rolls. 'Disingenuous' is a really nice way to describe this ad emulatorloo Jan 2016 #19
He helped elect and re-elect Bush* so he does have some political chops. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #22
He still is very savvy at putting together a manipulative attack emulatorloo Jan 2016 #28
Gotcha DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #29
Kind of like Correct the Record going after Bernie? morningfog Jan 2016 #46
thanks for the link restorefreedom Jan 2016 #34
Brilliant ratfucking. joshcryer Jan 2016 #41
Here's the ad on YouTube at the American Crossroads page emulatorloo Jan 2016 #18
thanks. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #36
Yes, I voted yes, because Hillsry's super PAc's do it too. If I say no tp Karl's napi21 Jan 2016 #10
Karl Rove will be happy to lie about Bernie when Bernie wins IA and NH emulatorloo Jan 2016 #14
I don't approve anything that slug does. Punkingal Jan 2016 #11
The Turd Blossom FEARS CLINTON! MADem Jan 2016 #13
turd blossom....i like it. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #35
That was George Bush's name for Rove. MADem Jan 2016 #37
interesting. i tend to think of rove restorefreedom Jan 2016 #39
It shows how vulnerable Hillary is to truthful negative ads virtualobserver Jan 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jan 2016 #20
Interesting tactic,to say the least. sufrommich Jan 2016 #17
I disapprove of ads that lie done by anyone. I watched the ad. It's the truth Autumn Jan 2016 #21
That is the problem with nominating Hillary....The Republicans don't need to lie to attack her. virtualobserver Jan 2016 #23
Very hard for me to imagine saltpoint Jan 2016 #24
Some people just want to watch everything burn dlwickham Jan 2016 #27
Rove is something of an unknown quantity saltpoint Jan 2016 #42
Kick! MoonRiver Jan 2016 #25
I don't like Rove, hated his tactics and I don't like to see the GOP run a Dem candidate Jarqui Jan 2016 #26
Rove enid602 Jan 2016 #33
Rove looks like Glenn Beck in that picture, lol. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #43
I don't really understand the question. Kentonio Jan 2016 #38
I don't care what Turd Blossom does, but it is amusing. Vinca Jan 2016 #44
Under our current system, Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #45

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. I am not surprised...
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jan 2016

If the GOP wanted to run against Clinton in the general election they wouldn't do anything to weaken her or make her lose in the Primary.

I will pre-empt any rebuttals by stating the opposite:

If the GOP didn't want to run against Clinton in the general election they would do everything possible to weaken her or make her lose in the Primary.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
32. I don't understand your response. Could you please elucidate?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jan 2016

Thank you in advance.




Always respectfully,
DSB

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
6. do you have a link to the ad in question?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:23 PM
Jan 2016

if its rovian, i am sure it is loathesome, but i would like to see what we are talking about.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. Rove is very clever, attacking from her left...
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jan 2016

What is disingenuous is he is using the same money to spend on attacking her that he decries her for raising.

I don't like Repubs gaming our Primary but it is not unexpected.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
22. He helped elect and re-elect Bush* so he does have some political chops.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jan 2016

His record beside that is desultory. He risks entering Dick Morris territory.

emulatorloo

(44,111 posts)
28. He still is very savvy at putting together a manipulative attack
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:56 PM
Jan 2016

Note how several of your responders endorse the ad.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
46. Kind of like Correct the Record going after Bernie?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 09:48 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary decries the super PAC big money, yet coordinates with one to attack Bernie. Disingenuous is a charitable description.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
34. thanks for the link
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jan 2016

rove is scum, but the ad is nothing out of his wheelhouse. they think they can predict voter thinking and they have failed so many times already. the "red menace" ads against bernie are sure to follow....

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
36. thanks.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jan 2016

typical rove. as if the repubs have a leg to stand on when it comes to being owned by big money.

stupid, stupid, karl. he is slipping.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
10. Yes, I voted yes, because Hillsry's super PAc's do it too. If I say no tp Karl's
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jan 2016

I'd have to say no to all of them.

Actually, I'd LOVE to see ALL negative (personal attack) ads GONE! But we all know that will never happen.

emulatorloo

(44,111 posts)
14. Karl Rove will be happy to lie about Bernie when Bernie wins IA and NH
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jan 2016

Will you still be a Rove fan then?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. The Turd Blossom FEARS CLINTON!
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jan 2016

He's pretty stupid to telegraph his terror, though!

Brilliant photoshop, that....

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
15. It shows how vulnerable Hillary is to truthful negative ads
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jan 2016

That ad would worry me if I was Team Hillary.

It also shows the danger of SuperPACS.

Response to virtualobserver (Reply #15)

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
42. Rove is something of an unknown quantity
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jan 2016

to me because all I really know of him is his stooge-like supplication to George W. Bush and the nearly constant propaganda he spews as a network political "analyst."

He must have seen early on where the levers of power were positioned, and managed to park himself as close to them as possible. Unfortunately for the citizens of the country, that was very close indeed.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
26. I don't like Rove, hated his tactics and I don't like to see the GOP run a Dem candidate
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jan 2016

I haven't seen the ads but if they're classic Rove, they're probably dishonest.

In general however, looking past who is doing it and what they're specifically saying, the GOP have weighed in on Dem primaries for a long time. In this particular case, making the primary tighter for Hillary so that she has to spend more money to beat Bernie while laying the foundation for cutting her to pieces in the general election is not a bad campaign strategy. I cannot fault them for that part - even though I'd prefer they didn't do that against a party I support.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
38. I don't really understand the question.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:16 PM
Jan 2016

A disingenuous, dishonest Republican hack does exactly what you'd expect him to do, and you ask a forum full of Democrats if they approve?

Vinca

(50,260 posts)
44. I don't care what Turd Blossom does, but it is amusing.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 06:45 PM
Jan 2016

He seems to think if he takes Hillary out, Bernie won't be able to beat the GOP candidate . . . despite numerous polls saying the exact opposite.

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