2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWho is going to be Bernie's VP pick?
I would like to see Barbara Lee on the ticket.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)MuseRider
(34,317 posts)would be good. She is wonderful.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)But he is one smart politician, he knows how to win ... so it will be a very solid pick.
It could be Warren.
It could be former Interior Sec. Salazar.
It might not be a politician.
I would think someone from the west might be a good balancing choice.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Someone like Bill McKibben and put him in charge of a global environmental stewardship initiative.
Nyan
(1,192 posts)I actually prefer her to Elizabeth Warren because of her foreign policy stance. And a former black panther at that? oh hell yeah...I would loooooove to see republicans' head explode!!!!!!
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,654 posts)I think it must be either a woman, a member of the LGBT community or a Person of Color. Or someone who covers a couple of these categories.
Bernie is running a non-traditional campaign and needs to select a non- traditional running mate. I love Elizabeth Warren, but as she is also from the Notheast, I don't think selecting her is a wise move. She will do more good in the Senate or in a Cabinet position.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,654 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)oasis
(51,419 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)I strongly hope it will be a woman. A woman who will make a great first woman president after Sanders' terms.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,654 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Every FP position she's taken has been horrible.
JI7
(90,198 posts)Bryce Butler
(338 posts)there are no term limits for VP
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)keith ellison would be great but the rw wackos would make his religion a major issue.
fun to think about, but tough battles ahead first
fleur-de-lisa
(14,654 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)those are just a few ideas.
They all have one thing in common.
Any guesses as to what that is?
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)generationally.
I think it's pretty clear our party needs to expand its leadership bench, going forward.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)and who simply need an opportunity to lead. Barbara Lee is California BTW. I too agree with the geographical and generational diversity.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Oh, well, the west coast is all California to me. You know, those CALIFORNIA VALUES. Hehehehe. (I'm Cruzin' for a brusin'.)
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I know, you guys think we're just a suburb of you, up here.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Really?
Hopefully next time he's in a room with her and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, they can have a conversation about Debbie's support for throwing sick people in prison over marijuana use.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Bernie 2016 is like Nader 2000 on steroids - with the same apparent effects.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)If Gore had actually motivated the base, it wouldn't have been close enough for Bush to steal. Don't blame Nader, he was filling a void.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)The bullshit that there's no difference between the Republicans and Democrats is exactly the same script Nader used to hand the 2000 coup d'etat into Bush's hands.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)but she's against single-payer, a living wage, legalization of marijuana, reinstating Glass- Steagall, and the list goes on. Her views are to the right of the base.
Nader didn't hand the election to Bush; it was stolen. If Gore had run further to the left, people wouldn't have felt the need to vote for Nader. How could Nader have predicted that it would come down to Florida and be stolen.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)FL 2000 was stolen, sure. Nader helped. This is indisputable. The fact that 15 yrs later - with exposure of all the shit that he did, and all the shit he's still doing - he still has defenders here is outrageous.
My fear is that Sanders seems to be headed down that same path, handing the election & the country to Pres Cruz or Pres Trump on a silver platter.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)You prove that he won't.
He's never been a Democrat before this past year, and the only reason he joined was to get the free money, expertise & exposure the party brings. Even so, he's practically declared war on the party just because everything hasn't gone 100% his way.
Plus, just like Nader he has a huge ego. If he looks to be losing the nomination, there's no reason to believe he won't.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)Barbara Lee is my #1 pick for VP.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)nsd
(2,477 posts)Jim Webb.
I'm only half kidding.
If Sanders is to win -- not just the nomination but the White House -- he's going to have to demonstrate, in words and actions, that he represents something fundamentally new in American politics. He can't just be the old socialist guy or a representative of the old American left. That's the formula for 1972. That's losing big.
If Sanders is to win, it's going to be because he shatters preconceptions, because he makes people realize the game is rigged, because he forces them to think in new ways.
There's a lot of anger and unhappiness out there. Sanders represents one strain of that (what we usually think of as American liberalism). And Webb represents a different but related strain (whiter, more traditional, more social conservative, but just as discontented and for similar reasons). Merging those two strains would be a big deal.
Of course, this isn't a new idea. Lots of people have had the same idea. But it would be really something, really interesting, if finally -- finally -- Sanders could bring them together.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)thank you
Nyan
(1,192 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)In the past, Sanders voted against Pauls "audit the fed" legislation. I don't see a clear evolution from Sanders on this one. It just doesn't make sense. I have a feeling there was a trade for his vote. I could see VP.
mythology
(9,527 posts)He would be crushed if he nominated Rand Paul to be his VP.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)I know, 2 northeastern white guys but they could work pretty damn well together and handily beat any of the Republican alternatives.