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Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:10 PM Jan 2016

Hillary is dealing with mounting health issues, new book claims

Hillary Clinton faces “mounting health issues” — and she’s secretly worried that she’s too sick to run for president, according to a new book.

The 67-year-old Democratic front-runner has been “frequently plagued” by “blinding headaches” and a series of strokes over the course of the campaign which have left her second-guessing her chances of winning in 2016, says the upcoming book “Unlikeable — The Problem with Hillary.”

Excerpts were published Tuesday by Radar Online.

“For the first time I’ve known her, she’s showing self-doubt about her strength and vitality,” a friend of Clinton’s told author Edward Klein, who has written about the Obamas and Kennedys in the past.

http://nypost.com/2015/09/22/hillary-is-dealing-with-mounting-health-issues-new-book-claims/

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Hillary is dealing with mounting health issues, new book claims (Original Post) Katashi_itto Jan 2016 OP
Edward Klein is a writer of fiction virtualobserver Jan 2016 #1
Actually, he isn't, but I have heard he stretches the truth. Punkingal Jan 2016 #4
if you accept him as non-fiction, the list of things that you would be forced to believe are.... virtualobserver Jan 2016 #8
I am not defending him....i said he lies. but I own a bookstore, and his books aren't Punkingal Jan 2016 #20
Sure, I understand that his books are categorized as non-fiction virtualobserver Jan 2016 #26
And i agree completely. He pretends to write non-fiction. Punkingal Jan 2016 #30
it is like a private ATM machine for him. virtualobserver Jan 2016 #32
Punkin, I wish you well and hope you are getting everything Tanuki Jan 2016 #55
Thank you! I am not, as you know a Hillary supporter, but i am appalled at the stroke talk. Punkingal Jan 2016 #59
The NY Post? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #2
This is the same guy who claimed that Chelsea sufrommich Jan 2016 #3
Watching her live for 13 hours dealing with attacks from Republicans lunamagica Jan 2016 #5
But that set of indisputable facts of holding up under extreme stress for 13 hours with great cool The Second Stone Jan 2016 #23
Thought it was 11 hours and a good chuck of that time was spent by Skwmom Jan 2016 #33
Interesting spin. emulatorloo Jan 2016 #34
OK, 11 hours. Not enouugh for you? And she SHONE. Even her deteactors had to admit it. None of the lunamagica Jan 2016 #68
Don't post that shit here. Klein is a serial liar pos cali Jan 2016 #6
They wanted it to be an issue, lets make it an issue for both. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #9
Not from this source or this piece of shit cali Jan 2016 #19
True. but look at all their wonderful activity here! Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #22
Thanks Cali. Agschmid Jan 2016 #13
Of course. Klein is particularly putrid cali Jan 2016 #24
One of the worst. I do not understand why these partisan hacks are used as "truth tellers" here emulatorloo Jan 2016 #41
The NY Post ... puhleez! BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #7
Too many freepers seem to have invaded. synergie Jan 2016 #44
I think this is bullshit. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #10
This Bernie fan agrees. Delete this stinking bullshit. vanlassie Jan 2016 #28
I smell a load of bull shit, too. Agree. The OP should consider deleting. Hiraeth Jan 2016 #45
Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #11
Oh boy... Agschmid Jan 2016 #12
This is the same POS that said Chelsea was the product of marital rape. Codeine Jan 2016 #14
that's awful--yeah, I don't like her record but this is really inappropriate n/t zazen Jan 2016 #17
Ed Klein? tammywammy Jan 2016 #15
Unadulterated JanetLovesObama Jan 2016 #16
Bumping, to try and keep the second of two ludicrous posts on the same page, from this op. Nt Sheepshank Jan 2016 #18
Waves!! Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #25
nypost: "Bernie ... He's a diehard Communist" emulatorloo Jan 2016 #21
There is no one more putrid than Klein cali Jan 2016 #27
anything to win, eh? Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #29
Naw, I cant get as low as Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #38
You're certainly putting in the effort to try at least. Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #40
Thanks! It is an effort to even come close. I had to dig around for this. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #42
Bullshit alert!! Bullshit alert!! Lil Missy Jan 2016 #31
I don't read Free Republic so never would have seen this! zappaman Jan 2016 #35
More RAG information, I read some time back Hillary was not going to win the presidency Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #36
Considering the sources credibility, but sorry for her if that's true. HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #37
You really should delete this. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #39
From the same guy who said Chelsea was a product of rape? leftofcool Jan 2016 #43
Last night I also saw tammywammy Jan 2016 #46
Yes, that's the guy. Beacool Jan 2016 #65
Wow - another embarrassing post OKNancy Jan 2016 #47
It's getting all flopsweatty hot in here! MADem Jan 2016 #54
I dislike the woman catnhatnh Jan 2016 #48
Please, let us not step into that kind of chess pool. sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #49
You going to self delete this tripe? Or let your flag fly? Agschmid Jan 2016 #50
That flag has been flying for awhile now. nt Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #64
ed klein is scum. but unfortunately, she opened the door restorefreedom Jan 2016 #51
Ha ha ha! Why didn't they just entitle it "She's a POOP and I Don't LIKE Her-So THERE!!!" MADem Jan 2016 #52
Please Self-Delete This Nonsense MineralMan Jan 2016 #53
If this is true, and I'm not saying it is, because I don't know, but if it is true, her health is in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #56
And you guys accuse us of scrapping the bottom of the barrel. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #57
Did I get lost Nonhlanhla Jan 2016 #58
No - It's just the nu DU baldguy Jan 2016 #60
Please note the many requests from sanders Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #66
I eagerly expect to see your criticism of the next Arkansas Project thread. baldguy Jan 2016 #72
I see. Yeah when the facts don't fit move the goalposts. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #73
Who's moving goalposts here? baldguy Jan 2016 #74
There is no longer any difference between both sites. Beacool Jan 2016 #63
ARE YOU FOR REAL???????????? Beacool Jan 2016 #61
I'm glad that you posted this and the other thread. yardwork Jan 2016 #62
Crap article about a crap book by a crap author. wilsonbooks Jan 2016 #67
Bumping this idiotic, one of two memes by same poster. Nt Sheepshank Jan 2016 #69
This speculation was inevitible loyalsister Jan 2016 #70
Hillary "is often confused" said her longtime aide Huma Abedin said in an email. Green Forest Jan 2016 #71

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
4. Actually, he isn't, but I have heard he stretches the truth.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

I would not put much faith in this story, and i am no fan of Hillary. Also, I don't think it's a good thing to speculate about her having strokes. I found out a year ago that I had had 2 strokes, and i have no clue when they happened. It's a scary thing, and I don't relish a "has she or hasn't she" conversation about that.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
8. if you accept him as non-fiction, the list of things that you would be forced to believe are....
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

amazing

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
20. I am not defending him....i said he lies. but I own a bookstore, and his books aren't
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jan 2016

classified as fiction, even though they are basically that. That is what I meant. They are filled with lies. I said the stuff about Hillary should not be said, nor should a lot oof other stuff he has said be in print.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
26. Sure, I understand that his books are categorized as non-fiction
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jan 2016

I just meant that the content is literally fiction.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
55. Punkin, I wish you well and hope you are getting everything
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:59 PM
Jan 2016

you need to minimize the risk of any future strokes. It must have been scary indeed. It also puts your comment on another thread in perspective, and I understand now that your stated concern was sincere. We may disagree on some political points, but as one caring human being to another....

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
59. Thank you! I am not, as you know a Hillary supporter, but i am appalled at the stroke talk.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jan 2016

It should not be discussed here, in any fashion.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
2. The NY Post?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jan 2016

I'm not a fan of Hillary, but come on, the NY Post? That's a paper version of Faux "News" and truth is a foreign concept to them. And the author is Ed Klein, an infamous liar.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
3. This is the same guy who claimed that Chelsea
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

Clinton was the product of rape.


Klein has been criticized for his biography of Hillary Clinton, titled, The Truth About Hillary: What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She'll Go to Become President, which was released on June 21, 2005. Politico criticized the book for "serious factual errors, truncated and distorted quotes and overall themes [that] don't gibe with any other serious accounts of Clinton's life."[9] The book was attacked not only by liberals, but by a neoconservative as well. John Podhoretz wrote in the New York Post, "Thirty pages into it, I wanted to take a shower. Sixty pages into it, I wanted to be decontaminated. And 200 pages into it, I wanted someone to drive stakes through my eyes so I wouldn't have to suffer through another word."[10] In National Review James Geraghty wrote, “Folks, there are plenty of arguments against Hillary Clinton, her policies, her views, her proposals, and her philosophies. This stuff ain’t it. Nobody on the right, left, or center ought to stoop to this level.”[11]

Kathryn Jean Lopez of National Review asked Klein in a June 20, 2005 interview, "Why on earth would you put such a terrible story in your book...that looks to be flimsily sourced at that?," regarding his suggestion that Chelsea Clinton was conceived in an act of marital rape.[12] Facing criticism from both the left and right for making the claim, Klein eventually backed away from the insinuation in an interview with radio host Jim Bohannon on June 23, 2005[13]


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Klein

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
5. Watching her live for 13 hours dealing with attacks from Republicans
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jan 2016

where she was sharp, brilliant, and didn't even break a sweat told me everything I need to know about her health.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
23. But that set of indisputable facts of holding up under extreme stress for 13 hours with great cool
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jan 2016

control and performance disrupts the narrative fiction. So you must be Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

She kicked ass at that hearing. Who do you want facing down Putin? Clinton or Trump?

That was the best 13 hour televised Presidential debate of all time.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
33. Thought it was 11 hours and a good chuck of that time was spent by
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:41 PM
Jan 2016

her supporters coming to her aid rather than asking questions. n/t

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
68. OK, 11 hours. Not enouugh for you? And she SHONE. Even her deteactors had to admit it. None of the
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jan 2016

other candidates, NOT ONE THEM, has h endured, much less passed such test.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. Don't post that shit here. Klein is a serial liar pos
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jan 2016

This is right wing conspiracy crap. It is shameful to post it.

emulatorloo

(44,117 posts)
41. One of the worst. I do not understand why these partisan hacks are used as "truth tellers" here
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jan 2016

just because they are anti-HRC. These right-wing tools will be more than happy to lie about Bernie and smear him once he's won IA and NH.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
7. The NY Post ... puhleez!
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

Every one of us deals with "mounting health issues" - especially as we grow older.

Edward Klein, tabloid writer and gossip columnist - anything to sell copy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Klein

It would be nice to raise the level of DU above Free Republic. But lately, I wonder if that's even possible anymore.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
11. Res ipsa loquitur
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

First The New York Post:


Murdoch ownership[edit]
In 1976, Rupert Murdoch bought the Post for US$30.5 million.[23] The Post at this point was the only surviving afternoon daily in New York City and its circulation under Schiff had grown by two-thirds, particularly after the failure of the competing World Journal Tribune. However, the rising cost of operating an afternoon daily in a city with worsening daytime traffic congestion, combined with mounting competition from expanded local radio and TV news cut into the Post's profitability, though it made money from 1949 until Schiff's final year of ownership, when it lost $500,000. (The paper has lost money ever since).[5] Under Murdoch's watch, the Post veered sharply to the right editorially, in accordance with Murdoch's views.

In late October 1995, the Post announced plans to change its Monday through Saturday publication and start a Sunday edition,[24] which it last published briefly in 1989.[25] On April 14, 1996, the Post delivered its new Sunday edition at the cost of 50 cents per paper by keeping its size to 120 pages.[26] The amount, significantly less than Sunday editions from competitors The Daily News and The New York Times, was part of the Post's efforts "to find a niche in the nation's most competitive newspaper market".[26]

In December 2012, Murdoch announced that Jesse Angelo had been appointed Publisher.[27]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Post



Then Edward Klein:

Criticism
Klein has been criticized for his biography of Hillary Clinton, titled, The Truth About Hillary: What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She'll Go to Become President, which was released on June 21, 2005. Politico criticized the book for "serious factual errors, truncated and distorted quotes and overall themes [that] don't gibe with any other serious accounts of Clinton's life."[9] The book was attacked not only by liberals, but by a neoconservative as well. John Podhoretz wrote in the New York Post, "Thirty pages into it, I wanted to take a shower. Sixty pages into it, I wanted to be decontaminated. And 200 pages into it, I wanted someone to drive stakes through my eyes so I wouldn't have to suffer through another word."[10] In National Review James Geraghty wrote, “Folks, there are plenty of arguments against Hillary Clinton, her policies, her views, her proposals, and her philosophies. This stuff ain’t it. Nobody on the right, left, or center ought to stoop to this level.”[11]

Kathryn Jean Lopez of National Review asked Klein in a June 20, 2005 interview, "Why on earth would you put such a terrible story in your book...that looks to be flimsily sourced at that?," regarding his suggestion that Chelsea Clinton was conceived in an act of marital rape.[12] Facing criticism from both the left and right for making the claim, Klein eventually backed away from the insinuation in an interview with radio host Jim Bohannon on June 23, 2005[13]

The British newspaper The Guardian pointed out a number of verifiable factual errors in Klein's 2014 book Blood Feud.[14]

Questions of credibility of sources in work[edit]
Klein has also come under fire for his use of anonymous quotes, purported to be from the subjects of his books, which he claims he received from anonymous insiders. The credibility of such quotes has been questioned by writers such as Joe Conason,[15] Salon's Simon Malloy [16] and conservative commentators Rush Limbaugh[17] and Peggy Noonan.[18] "Some of the quotes strike me as odd, in the sense that I don't know people who speak this way," Limbaugh said of Klein's work, describing the sources as "grade school chatter."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Klein

emulatorloo

(44,117 posts)
21. nypost: "Bernie ... He's a diehard Communist"
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jan 2016
Dont be fooled by Bernie Sanders - he's a diehard Communist"
http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/

That must be true too, I read it in the New York Post! <sarcasm>

You lie down with Ruport Murdoch dogs, you get up with fleas.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
36. More RAG information, I read some time back Hillary was not going to win the presidency
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jan 2016

on a rag in the check out line, I knew it was time to get behind her, if they say it then the opposite is true. As we see these "news" articles are not nice to either candidate.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
37. Considering the sources credibility, but sorry for her if that's true.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jan 2016

Anxiety and insomnia are fierce partners with the effects of both potentially making the other much worse.

Other stories about low energy and memory problems are not outside the possibility of effects of insomnia.

If that's been a problem I hope she has that behind her and wish her best health.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
39. You really should delete this.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jan 2016

To say Ed Klein is not a reliable source is an understatement. He makes shit up.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
46. Last night I also saw
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jan 2016

Someone link to Daily Caller and an Ed Klein written article on NewsMax to question Clinton's health.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
65. Yes, that's the guy.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jan 2016

His 2005 book about Hillary was so repulsive that even conservatives chastised him.



OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
47. Wow - another embarrassing post
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:36 PM
Jan 2016

So many today I can't keep up. What is wrong with you people. Resorting to Ed Klein?

I hope that you will support Hillary when she wins and that we can bash Republicans again.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
54. It's getting all flopsweatty hot in here!
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jan 2016

People may not be taking off all their clothes, but they are showing their posteriors a bit....!

Touting Freeper fare is kind of sadly old school.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
49. Please, let us not step into that kind of chess pool.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jan 2016

I think all of our candidates are healthy.

OTOH, I would like to see a psychiatric evaluation
of Trump and Cruz.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
51. ed klein is scum. but unfortunately, she opened the door
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jan 2016

to the health issue when she let her superpac buddy brock float bullshit about bernie's health and the so called demand for his records.

if she wants to cut ties with brock, then i am fine with letting the health issue play out as it normally does in a campaign.

unfortunately, she keeps company with scumbags. their dirt tends to rub off.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. Ha ha ha! Why didn't they just entitle it "She's a POOP and I Don't LIKE Her-So THERE!!!"
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:52 PM
Jan 2016

They're Very Afraid if they're going to the trouble of creating Hit Piece Tomes to pass out at rubber chicken fundraisers!



This pairs nicely with Turd Blossom's frantic anti-Hill commercial that's airing in IA!

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
53. Please Self-Delete This Nonsense
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jan 2016

The source is beyond unreliable. This is nothing more than a fact-free slur on Clinton.

It does not belong on DU.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
56. If this is true, and I'm not saying it is, because I don't know, but if it is true, her health is
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:00 PM
Jan 2016

More important than being the POTUS. Stress is the worst thing for anyone with major health issues. If this is true and she continues to campaign and has a stroke at a rally or at a fundraiser...she'll be done. Personally, I hope it isn't true. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
If it's true, she has no business running for President. That's just wrong.
Being POTUS is stressful!


PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
60. No - It's just the nu DU
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:19 PM
Jan 2016

All RW propaganda ... ALL THE TIME!

(Just as long as it's directed only at the Clintons & the Democratic Party!)

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
66. Please note the many requests from sanders
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jan 2016

supporters in this thread for the op to delete this mess. View that in contrast to the complete lack of criticism from Clinton supporters here over the despicable attacks on Sanders age and health yesterday that motivated this op.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
72. I eagerly expect to see your criticism of the next Arkansas Project thread.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 08:16 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Sun Jan 17, 2016, 09:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Or when when someone unironically posts Darrell Issa's latest conspiracy theory about Clinton's emails.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
74. Who's moving goalposts here?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 10:45 PM
Jan 2016

It's OK on DU to accuse Clinton of using RW smears - even when they're nothing of the sort,

But when Bernie supporters use actual RW attacks actually thought up by actual lying RW propagandists, they are not to be questioned.

Since when is clinging to destructive, hypocritical double standards a progressive value?

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
63. There is no longer any difference between both sites.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jan 2016

Not when it comes to attacking the Clintons. This place has become a disgrace and a cesspool. It has ceased to be a "Democratic" board.

Sickening.........

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
61. ARE YOU FOR REAL????????????
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jan 2016

You post an article from the NY Post about a book written by Ed Klein???????????

Am I on Free Republic? Do you even know who that vile man is??????

Here's an article form the same NY Post discrediting Klein's 2005 book.

'On page 202 of his new tome – just out yesterday – Ed Klein writes, “Greed seemed to be the only explanation for the outlandish book deal.” Klein is referring to the $8 million advance Hillary Clinton received for her autobiography.

These are curious words to be publishing in 2005, when Klein and the world know that her book “Living History” was a phenomenal success and has earned its author more than the $8 million in royalty payments advanced to her.

Curious and revealing. Because if any book in recent memory reads as though it has been written out of greed – a greedy hunger to separate millions of conservative book buyers from their hard-earned 25 bucks – it is Ed Klein’s “The Truth About Hillary.”

This is one of the most sordid volumes I’ve ever waded through. Thirty pages into it, I wanted to take a shower. Sixty pages into it, I wanted to be decontaminated. And 200 pages into it, I wanted someone to drive stakes through my eyes so I wouldn’t have to suffer through another word.'

http://nypost.com/2005/06/22/smear-for-profit-new-hillary-bio-is-just-trash/

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
62. I'm glad that you posted this and the other thread.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jan 2016

Nothing demonstrates better that so-called Bernie supporters are getting their talking points from FreeRepublic.

Really says a lot about the integrity of your candidate. Or maybe that's the plan. Hm?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
70. This speculation was inevitible
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jan 2016

And we can dread much more of it to come. It's an obvious line of attack given the ages of the 2 most competetive Democratic candidates. I'm not a proponant of demanding health records, etc. The candidates word is good enough for me. But we should have some numerical sense about what getting older means when the party begins the process of looking for candidates.

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
71. Hillary "is often confused" said her longtime aide Huma Abedin said in an email.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary is pushing 70. And we all know about Ronald Reagan...

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