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Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:13 PM Jan 2016

Hillary’s health and our right to know

We the people feel entitled to a president of the United States who is in good enough health so that he or she can endure the pressures of the job without suffering a heart attack, stroke or sudden death.

Of course, any good physician will tell you that she can’t be entirely sure of health risks, and our presidential candidates shouldn’t be gauged entirely by physical criteria alone. Still, full health disclosure must be a prerequisite for running for the highest office in the land.

This was why the disparity between the political parties was glaring when it came to disclosing health history back in 2008. I traveled to Phoenix and joined other members of the news media poring through thousands of pages of Sen. John McCain’s health records. At the same time, Sen. Barack Obama was releasing only a single page of health affirmation from his personal physician. True, Mr. McCain had a history of a melanoma requiring extensive facial surgery for a cure, but Mr. Obama was a longtime smoker.

I am expecting more of the same kind of disparity in the 2016 election. Full disclosure has never been a strong suit of newly announced candidate Hillary Clinton. From Benghazi to the email scandal to reported money-making schemes rocking the Clinton Foundation, secrecy has been the operative term rather than transparency. I can easily imagine deleted emails that referred to the heart valve or heart arrhythmia problem mentioned in Ed Klein’s 2014 book, “Blood Feud.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/28/marc-siegel-hillary-clintons-health-and-our-right-/

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Hillary’s health and our right to know (Original Post) Katashi_itto Jan 2016 OP
They wanted it to be an issue, lets make it an issue for both. artislife Jan 2016 #1
+1 Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author MissDeeds Jan 2016 #12
The Washington Times is a more sophisticated version of the NY Post. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #2
Good catch! Look what the author, Dr. Marc Siegel, has to say Tanuki Jan 2016 #19
She released her medical info after this article was written. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2016 #3
Ed Klein and the Washington Times. sufrommich Jan 2016 #5
Washington Times? mcar Jan 2016 #6
It not surprising that the OP does this Sheepshank Jan 2016 #9
Wtf are you babbling about? Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #11
Your babbling buffoonery is evident today Sheepshank Jan 2016 #20
Snicker your wearing your tinfoil to tight Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #21
Boy are you so quick off the block today. 0-o Sheepshank Jan 2016 #23
Not as far as you have gone. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #27
I was speaking to speed, why would you introduce distance in such an unrelated manner? Sheepshank Jan 2016 #29
Whooosh it goes over your head. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #30
This is also bullshit, just with a better wrapper. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #7
Res ipsa loquitur (REDUX) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #8
And even MORE Unadulterated JanetLovesObama Jan 2016 #10
Please self-delete this garbage. MineralMan Jan 2016 #13
How old is Bernie Sanders? yardwork Jan 2016 #14
Fuck posting this.dogshit cali Jan 2016 #15
The Moonie Times? Since when did this become a credible source? nt Tanuki Jan 2016 #16
Strange that Hillary raises the health issue when she has had a history of illness Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #17
Ed Klein, The Washington Times and Sanders supporters. A threesome made in hell. Feel the burn Metric System Jan 2016 #18
Please note that many of the posters in this thread The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #25
Hillary and Bernie are physically vulnerable loyalsister Jan 2016 #22
Oh look another one. Agschmid Jan 2016 #24
Since he has had surgery recently it would be important to Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #26
Why are you obsessed with right-wing sources? Murdoch's NY Post, now the Moonie Times? emulatorloo Jan 2016 #28
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
1. They wanted it to be an issue, lets make it an issue for both.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jan 2016

And someone should demand Trump's mental health..

Response to artislife (Reply #1)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
2. The Washington Times is a more sophisticated version of the NY Post.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jan 2016

And the author of this article (who cites a book by the egregious liar Ed Klein) is a medical correspondent for Faux News. I am not a supporter of Hillary but I think we need to stick to reliable sources.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
3. She released her medical info after this article was written.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jan 2016

But points for "worrying" over things mentioned in an Ed Klein book.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
6. Washington Times?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jan 2016

This is the third RW media outlet cited on this Democratic board to flag this non issue. Such a shame.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
9. It not surprising that the OP does this
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:23 PM
Jan 2016

Not too long ago. This op was posting 2000 posts a month to get count numbers up. There was a reason then to make things look established, and there are reasons for these types of posts now.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
11. Wtf are you babbling about?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jan 2016

Whoa a real CTer!

If I had a high post rate. It could have been back when I had a hip replacement and was totally laid up. But this theory of yours is so much cooler.

Thanks!

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
20. Your babbling buffoonery is evident today
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jan 2016

Posting RW memes. But you just go ahead and offer that phony high road crappola.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. Res ipsa loquitur (REDUX)
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:22 PM
Jan 2016
The political views of The Washington Times are often described as extremely conservative.[48][49][50] The Washington Post reported: "the Times was established by Moon to combat communism and be a conservative alternative to what he perceived as the liberal bias of The Washington Post."[5]

Conservative commentator Paul Weyrich commented:

The Washington Post became very arrogant and they just decided that they would determine what was news and what wasn't news and they wouldn't cover a lot of things that went on. And the Washington Times has forced the Post to cover a lot of things that they wouldn't cover if the Times wasn't in existence.[51]

In 2007, the left-leaning Mother Jones news magazine said that the Times had become "essential reading for political news junkies" soon after its founding, and quoted James Gavin, special assistant to Bo Hi Pak:

We're trying to combat communism and we're trying to uphold traditional Judeo-Christian values. The Washington Times is standing up for those values and fighting anything that would tear them down. Causa is doing the same thing, by explaining what the enemy is trying to do.[52]

In a 2008 essay published in Harper's Magazine, historian Thomas Frank linked the Times to the modern American conservative movement, saying:

There is even a daily newspaper—the Washington Times—published strictly for the movement's benefit, a propaganda sheet whose distortions are so obvious and so alien that it puts one in mind of those official party organs one encounters when traveling in authoritarian countries.[53]
In 2009 The New York Times reported:

With its conservative editorial bent, the paper also became a crucial training ground for many rising conservative journalists and a must-read for those in the movement. A veritable who's who of conservatives—Tony Blankley, Frank J. Gaffney Jr., Larry Kudlow, John Podhoretz and Tony Snow—has churned out copy for its pages.[34]

Though not listed, another conservative writer who trained there was New York Times op-ed columnist David Brooks, a Washington Times editorial writer in the 1980s.[54]

The Times has also been criticized for using the word "homosexual" rather than "gay".[55] In 2010, the Times published an editorial opposing the Employment Non-Discrimination Act because it granted legal protective status for transgender people. The editorial criticized some transgender people and said that gender identity can be a choice, not an innate characteristic.[56][57][58]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
17. Strange that Hillary raises the health issue when she has had a history of illness
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jan 2016

puts he more in the firing line.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
25. Please note that many of the posters in this thread
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jan 2016

who find the source in the OP objectionable are Sanders supporters. It's extremely offensive to compare us to the likes of Ed Klein when we are trying to defend Clinton from his lies.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
22. Hillary and Bernie are physically vulnerable
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jan 2016

If you look at age of onset for a myriad of diseasesdisorders they are both sitting in that window. Our bodies break down with time. It's natural. Should we put ourselves in a position where our presidential nominee is running a higher than average risk of health problems? Apparently, we already did. Yea us.
Neither really has a "health advantage" over the other.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. Since he has had surgery recently it would be important to
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jan 2016

Know if Sanders is fit. Hillary has had her letter out since July, haven't seen a letter for Sanders yet.

emulatorloo

(44,118 posts)
28. Why are you obsessed with right-wing sources? Murdoch's NY Post, now the Moonie Times?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 07:23 PM
Jan 2016

will you be enthusiastically posting their attacks on Bernie as well?

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