Official debate thread #1

[Beaverhausen]

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I didn't see one started yet.

Can I just say I love all three of our candidates.

Thread #2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511022251

[TCJ70]

1. Did Hillary just invent something called...

...the Charleston Loophole? What does that mean?

[OrwellwasRight]

7. No idea, but

I have zero percent faith in any promises she makes about gun safety. She is saying this just to beat Bernie and will capitulate to the NRA like so often happens with just about every "tough on guns" Democrat.

[Cassiopeia]

11. here

http://www.businessinsider.com/charleston-shooting-gun-control-bill-2015-7

[femmocrat]

2. Thank you, Beaverhausen.

I was looking for one!

I love them too and the quality of the democratic debates.

[awake]

3. one has started

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128097898

[Kokonoe]

8. that thread is in Bernie Sanders (Group) nt

[awake]

13. thanks "my bad"

[Kentonio]

4. Ok, so the gloves are off then.

I really hope he returns this in kind.

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. She'll get hers. Not to worry.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[MH1]

5. On the "3 top priorities" question, MOM got a lot more than 5% of the audience. :)

Glad he's in the debate.

[elleng]

6. Yes, well earned!

[gateley]

24. Hiya, pal!

I hope this debate gives him a boost. I think he's a good guy (in part because you told me to pay attention to him) but something about his delivery seems a little stilted to me. Maybe he'll "warm up" by the end of the night.

[elleng]

26. Hi, gate!

Don't understand your 'stilted,' but that's what makes card games I guess!!!

[gateley]

39. I know I"m the only one who gets that from him, so I'm wondering if

maybe he reminds me of someone I clashed with? I totally own that it's MY perception, NOT him -- I should have made that clear.

I wish they would have gotten more debates (glaring @ DWS) so more people would get a chance to get to know him.

[OrwellwasRight]

12. I can't figure out why he is so low in the polls. nt.

[elleng]

28. msm doesn't cover him!

(ONE reason)

[Renew Deal]

10. Glad someone started it

[firebrand80]

14. Bernie don't give a fuck about your debate rules

[OrwellwasRight]

34. Neither does

?c=2

[firebrand80]

40. +1

[Gregorian]

15. I think Bernie has this handled, but I'm holding my breath that nothing horrible happens.

[gateley]

16. I will heartily vote for whomever gets the nod.

I think we'd be in good hands with any one of them.

[nolabear]

17. They're throwing everything they've got into every sentence.

[Renew Deal]

18. Good answer by Sanders to question about polling

[ecstatic]

19. This is the first dem. debate I've watched in real time

Interesting so far. Why is Bernie yelling his answers?

[Renew Deal]

20. O'Malley got a question about what responsibility he has for Baltimore violence.

His answer is basically it's better than it was.

[MH1]

29. I believe statistics show that's true.

It's a tough situation. I live near Philly and I read the papers and hear on the news, when there are shootings, the residents are complaining why aren't the police doing anything to shut down the gangs and the drug dealers. So in Baltimore, a similar situation, a guy like O'Malley comes along and takes actions to do that. Maybe not perfect actions but it does get better. And he does stuff too like civilian review boards to address police misconduct. But then this is the shit he gets.

[Kentonio]

21. I love how much passion Bernie is bringing to this.

[Gregorian]

22. "We've got the path, we're on the way to victory!" Go Bernie!

[demwing]

23. Hillary sounds sedated

her...pauses...are...exaggerated

[firebrand80]

30. She sounded "off" in the beginning

She sounds better now

[Gregorian]

25. O'Malley has really accomplished a lot.

[gateley]

44. I agree -- impressive. nt

[elleng]

56. a HUGE amount,

and wasn't able to SAY it!

[Duckhunter935]

180. wish they would let him talk

And quit ignoring him

[Renew Deal]

27. Sanders just pulled a spelling bee move

Asked Holt to read back a question.

It really doesn't mean anything, but it was funny. I'm glad he didn't ask for a pronunciation.

[Stuckinthebush]

31. Made him look old

Mark my words, some. Republican will use it.

[BumRushDaShow]

33. The problem with that "move"

was that my impression was that he wasn't paying attention to the video of the person asking the question.

[TCJ70]

35. Looked like an audio issue of some kind...n/t

[demmiblue]

46. I think so, too. n/t

[2pooped2pop]

205. yep he even said they were not able to hear it all.

N/t

[awake]

37. I think it was because the sound of the youtube was too low on stage

[Renew Deal]

49. That's what it looked like to me

[Renew Deal]

32. How many questions did they just skip O'Malley on?

I think it was 3

[elleng]

42. RIGHT!

[tblue37]

212. Damn near all of them. nt

[joshcryer]

36. Lester isn't messing around with the clock.

[elleng]

38. MO'M was just NOT permitted to say what I was going to post:

ALL of the things bernie and hrc just proposed he both HAS done (in Maryland) AND has written into his proposals, re: crime/drugs/treatment!

LET HIM SPEAK!!!

[Green Forest]

47. I thought he knocked it out if the park.

[Peacetrain]

54. the went to commerical and did not come back to him..

~sigh~

[elleng]

63. Right, Peace,

and I'm not sighing, I'm PISSED, AGAIN!

[Peacetrain]

68. He is back finally... health care!!

[global1]

41. Lester Holt Is Doing A Terrible Job As Moderator....

He's interrupting the speakers and cutting them off. Very rude.

[Stuckinthebush]

45. I think he's doing a great job

Keeping them on the clock.

[TCJ70]

50. No, he's doing what a moderator should...

...keeping everyone in the rules and not letting the stage get out of control.

[Gregorian]

43. I love how Bernie is in this to win. He's on his game.

He makes me feel inferior, yet inspired.

[firebrand80]

48. He sounds pissed off, as usual

[tularetom]

79. Somebody needs to be pissed off

Are you happy with the way things are?

[in_cog_ni_to]

51. Clinton's committed to UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE!

Riiiiight....sure she is!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[kath]

55. #pantsuitonfire

[OrwellwasRight]

62. +1

[nc4bo]

59. Bernie truth telling on healthcare lies from HRC.

I think HRC wants to boil him in oil

[Renew Deal]

60. She is, in that she thinks everyone should have coverage.

Universal Healthcare is a bit of a generic term.

[pangaia]

52. Hillary says Bernie just CHANGED his view on health insurance.!!!!

WTF !!!

NOW BERNIE is throwing it back in her face!!!!!

[Kentonio]

53. Oh my god, did she really just say Democrats have been working since Truman to bring in the ACA?

She is absolutely shameless.

[OrwellwasRight]

57. ACA isn't in fact a path to universal coverqge.

There is nothing in it that would ever lead to universal coverage. Harper's Mag had a great article on this in last month's issue.

[Renew Deal]

75. I agree except that it might be a way to convince people the corporate model doesn't work.

[OrwellwasRight]

94. i thought that too at first

But now I think it will never happen because the Rs have convinced people that ACA is gov't care, not private care.

[Gregorian]

58. Bernie has been solid on universal health care. This will backfire on her. Ouch!

[earthside]

78. She is being contentious.

Sanders is bold and progressive.

This is going to backfire on Hillary ... she sounds like a stick-in-the-mud.
And ... she has no substantive new ideas.

Oh, and I hate when she howls at the end of every argument.

[firebrand80]

61. Bernie is going to explode

[DesertRat]

67. Looks like he's going to have a stroke

Always so angry!

[Kentonio]

74. He should be, she's making me furious.

Completely betraying Democratic principles.

[DesertRat]

81. He always yells and looks angry

[Kentonio]

87. There's a lot to be angry about at the moment.

[OrwellwasRight]

206. voters are pissed at being ignored in favor of big biz.

He is rightly reflecting that.

[Champion Jack]

193. he should be

[nc4bo]

76. We should all be pissed. nt

[Duppers]

210. HELL YES we should.

Thx.

[2pooped2pop]

225. according to their health records Hillary

Is the one most likely to stroke out

[DesertRat]

242. She withstood 11 hours during Trey Gowdy's sham investigation

She'll be fine.

[darkangel218]

247. If she doesn't win the presidency, she sure has a chance

In Hollywood.

[2pooped2pop]

251. not the same n/t

[tblue37]

231. MOM on fire against HRC on Wall Street! WOW, MOM! nt

[firebrand80]

64. YUGE!!

[uponit7771]

65. So Sanders DOES want to tear up the ACA...

[ecstatic]

66. So Bernie really thinks he can shut down 20% of our economy (healthcare industry) and switch

to medicare for all? Really? Don't get me wrong, it would be great, but it's not gonna happen.

[uponit7771]

72. That's after he gets it passed congress with unicorns and revolution

[OrwellwasRight]

82. okay so let's bankrupt the country by keeping the current system

In which healthcare spending as a percentage of GDP keeps going up because we let for profit interests control US healthcare policy.

[uponit7771]

108. No, lets proffer something that works and not unicorns!! Lets not let perfect or good be the

... enemy of adequate or workable

[OrwellwasRight]

126. single payer works. ask Canada.

[uponit7771]

154. America's congress does NOT work for American people, ask Obama... It's historically

...gerrymandered and doesn't have to answer to anyone else

[OrwellwasRight]

198. so why are you even here?

Go give up elsewhere.

[ecstatic]

134. Do you know how many regular Americans work in the private healthcare / insurance industry?

We're not just talking about billionaires here. We're talking about millions of regular people who would be out of a job once Bernie unilaterally shuts down EVERY private insurer.

[OrwellwasRight]

188. Actually that is so far from true it's laughable.

Medicare is single payer and tons and tons of people are needed to process and oversee claims, root out fraud, provide care, administrate the program, etc.

In fact there will probably be tons more jobs in health care when everyone can get it.

For those relatively few who have to move out of the business of claims denial, they can move into some thing more productive. Do you think the UK, German, and Canadian economies would be les productive if they had more people hired to do claims denial? Um, no.

[ecstatic]

236. Alrighty then. Switching careers will be so easy! nt

[OrwellwasRight]

245. Hey, that is how Obama is pitching #TPP.

And what I said was that most people won't have to. Do you also defend those who work in coal mining and fracking or do you just care about yourself? They'll have to change jobs too. The tragedy is not changing jobs. The tragedy is that in this country, we don't adequately support workers as they switch jobs. It is a YOYO economy, and that's why people fear change. If we supported workers, we could embrace change whether single payer or carbon free as it would not be catastrophic for families.

[angrychair]

179. Stop dishonest attacks

EVERY major industrialized nation on Earth seem to manage well.What, they can do it but we can not? Is it because we are a bunch of special flowers? So special, we have to do it in a way that puts more money in only a few pockets and keep allowing teapublican governors to restrict and dismantle the ACA in their state?

First, it does not dismantle the healthcare industry. Medicare hasn't dismantled it so far, has it? Medicare for all will not hurt us but help us.

STOP THE LIES

HEALTHCARE FOR ALL

[uponit7771]

208. Congress being historically gerrymandered isn't a lie its statitistical truth, reality matters

... and asking people to "fight" and "revolution" aren't solutions they're slogans.

Sanders has yet to proffer a way to get what he wants around congress... that's not goin to change tonight

[angrychair]

239. Stop dishonest attacks

This is a logical fallacy. HRC is no more capable or likely to achieve a successful progressive agenda than anyone else. She will, at best, get a "compromise" agenda that will continue to put billions of dollars in the pockets of the wealthy at the expense of the middle class and allows HRC to collect millions in speaking fees from Wall St.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

92. Well it should

they have no trouble finding money for futile wars

[Trajan]

160. They have forced companies to divest in antitrust cases ...

So the government does have ample precedent initiating large wholesale restructuring of certain corporate entities ...

Frankly, the people don't want insurance companies as 'middle men' between consumers and health care.

Surely we are not obligated to pay them for health care service provided outside of their private facilities ...

We don't need insurance - We need health care ....

[Old Codger]

166. Damn sure

Won't happen if no one tries will it??

[lostnfound]

207. It's so much better that some of us have friends in danger of dying

Because of a patchwork system vulnerable to every dumbass republican governor out there.

[OrwellwasRight]

69. Spending more doesn't cover more

And doesn't secure higher quality care. Why can't Democrats ever say that?

[elleng]

70. INTERJECTING,

HOW to do it, from MO'M!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

71. She's like Maleficent

[kath]

250. Maleficent, Verruca Salt, Tracy Flick

margaret Thatcher...

Such a lovely person she is.

[Gregorian]

73. This is a real debate.

[elleng]

80. Closer than what we've seen, Greg.

[uponit7771]

77. I"m the senator not the governor!! BOOOO BS answer...

[itsrobert]

111. That was tough to watch

Throwing the Governor under the bus.

[in_cog_ni_to]

83. WOOT! "I'm not tearing up the ACA, I helped WRITE IT!"

HRH is losing this STUPID argument because she doesn't want to "start all over again." Waaaah! Yeah, don't start over and move FORWARD and get something better.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[uponit7771]

84. Standing up to the HCI's and getting something workable done is two different things

[Renew Deal]

85. Bad answer by Sanders about why single payer didn't happen in "the state of Vermont."

Basically "don't ask me, ask the governor."

[Skwmom]

86. If she ever stood up, she sure in the heck has sold out now. n/t

[firebrand80]

88. Sounds like Hillary has home field advantage

[valerief]

89. Hillary, how did we get Medicare? We got it. We can get it again for more people.

We just have to try.

[Gregorian]

90. Oh, Mrs. Greenspan.

[valerief]

93. The mods are making it clear this is a Hillary show. nt

[Skwmom]

98. It is really pathetic. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

105. And she won the debate too, dontcha know?

They'll all be spewing that lie as soon as the debate is over. It's already written!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[TCJ70]

91. Hillary: I know how much money influences the political system...

...yes, I'm sure you do.

[Cassiopeia]

100. She's taken so very much of that money.

[azmom]

103. I had a big chuckle on that

[nc4bo]

104. Oh she would indeed. Nasty. nt

[Le Taz Hot]

95. I haven't hated a politician this bad

since Nixon. She turns my fucking stomach!

[Gregorian]

102. banned!

[Le Taz Hot]

252. LOL!

Nope! Still here!

[Stuckinthebush]

112. I love her

And most Dems do too.

I also love Sanders. We need his voice. We need her experience and pragmatism.

[in_cog_ni_to]

123. Yeah, she's a real piece of work.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Warren Stupidity]

196. The alert failed 1-6.

[Cassiopeia]

96. HRC I know how much money effects decision making

What wan't said "because i take SOOOOOO very much of it."

[LittleBlue]

97. Hillary is arguing against more healthcare

And 50% of the party apparently supports this.

If she is the nominee, the party left me.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

101. She sounds like a Republican

[RoccoR5955]

115. She's not?

Could have fooled me!

[Renew Deal]

125. Her argument is basically that it's too hard.

[itsrobert]

99. Bernie is getting rattled

Hillary throwing grenades left and right. Bernie is shelled shocked.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

106. Bernie is breathing fire on her and she is getting burned!

[nc4bo]

120. I don't see it like that at all. nt

[Stuckinthebush]

122. He is sounding rattled

And isn't coming across as presidential

[demwing]

143. Says the Hillary fan

I see Hillary poking the tiger, and she's about to lose a finger.

[Stuckinthebush]

155. I am a fan of all of them

Calling it like I see it

[Rosa Luxemburg]

153. She is not convincing

and she is squawking

[OrwellwasRight]

107. The modérators suck at impartiality.

[elleng]

109. Always have.

[TCJ70]

110. The pre-show was worse...n/t

[Cassiopeia]

113. 19 million more insured is wonderful

IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

We should not be satisfied until every single person gets health CARE not health insurance.

[uponit7771]

132. Hillary is right... how in the world is he going to get the votes in a historically gerrymandered.

...GOP congress!?!?

[Cassiopeia]

144. With us fighting along side of him.

We're not scraping the system and building a new one. We're building a new one and replacing the current one.

It's really not that fucking hard to figure it out. If we fail then we fail, we've lost nothing but time.

[uponit7771]

182. how?! ... the congress isn't represenative any longer... does anyone understand what

.... gerrymandered means!?!?

[Cassiopeia]

214. So why are you even voting or participating?

We can't so we shouldnt even try. Yeah, that's a great answer.

[tularetom]

216. How is she going to get anything done?

Of course you know the answer. She will capitulate to their every whim. And then they will impeach her anyway.

[Drunken Irishman]

114. Bernie needs to collect himself better...

Hillary's lobs are going to be far less toxic than anything Donald Trump will throw at him in a debate.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

128. He's doing great

[Drunken Irishman]

169. I think the optics are not great.

[JudyM]

130. his voice is giving out, he seems old tonight.

[JonLeibowitz]

183. LOL! hi david brock! n/t

[JudyM]

203. see post 156.

[Stuckinthebush]

136. Great point!

This is nothing compared to the big show

[ecstatic]

151. He's getting really rattled. Shouting,

talking about revolution. I don't think it's going over well, but I guess we'll see what happens in the polls.

[OrwellwasRight]

116. Here they go again,

The socialist boogeyman when the issue is the US is a plutocracy! Effing media!

[Renew Deal]

117. O'Malley is more or less shut out of this debate

I don't think they've asked him any questions first. He doesn't get asked almost anything.

[elleng]

127. so he has to interject,

as he's just doing, again.

[OrwellwasRight]

145. It probably makes him feel rude.

But he won't rise in polls if he doesn't do it. No wallflowers ever win.

[Agschmid]

129. Yup it sucks I feel bad.

[Stuckinthebush]

142. He is very good

A good VP prospect for either

[Kentonio]

118. Was this billed as a moderator led attack on Bernie, or did they claim it would be an actual debate?

[OrwellwasRight]

133. +1

[in_cog_ni_to]

137. The Corrupt, Corporate Owned MSM LOVES HRH....she's one of 'em!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[gwheezie]

119. Apparently they can all work with John McCain

Glad to see they agree on something.

[firebrand80]

121. There will be no kids on the WH Lawn in a Sanders administration

[in_cog_ni_to]

148. He has SEVEN GRANDKIDS, so that's a lie. n/t

[senz]

161. Bernie and Jane love kids.

[Gregorian]

124. Bernie tells the truth like we've never heard on tv. I love this.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

149. And EVERY time Bernie goes near the truth, Lester attempts to stop him and changes...

...direction saying "Yea, we're going to get to that later."

I envision an invisible string tugging at Lester...

[Skwmom]

131. O'Malley screams phony. They must have encouraged him to run to make Clinton look better. n/t

[Renew Deal]

138. I don't believe in the conspiracy

[Skwmom]

152. After researching O'Malley I concluded he's another establishment DLC hack. n/t

[Renew Deal]

163. That's a different point

But I don't think there is some conspiracy

[Kentonio]

140. His boy scout act is getting old.

[Skwmom]

147. He's a fake. n/t

[earthside]

158. Too bad, it does nothing to distinguish himself from the other two.

I'm for Sanders, but I like O'Malley, too.

[elleng]

150. B.S!

Martin O'Malley:

1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues.
Article here:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk

[Peacetrain]

159. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yep!

[Skwmom]

171. A laundry list for someone with his eye on the Whitehouse.

The 148k in consulting fees from the company he awarded a no bid contract, the sweetheart land deal, etc. There is a reason on 3 percent of the state supported his candidacy.

[Skwmom]

187. Supporting nuclear energy and he's the best on environment?

I no longer support Mother Jones after this election cycle.

[7wo7rees]

249. Like him a lot, so sad he has been so marginalized.

What if we could have Bernie and O'Malley?

Hillary just seems to not be doing well.

[Metric System]

162. Do Sanders supporters like any Democrats not named Bernie?

[Skwmom]

195. I don't care for DLC establishment Democrats. n/t

[lostnfound]

234. I love Obama AND Bernie

So yes.
Had to walk before we could run. Time for running.

[firebrand80]

135. The 'ol Frederick Douglass card, eh?

[demmiblue]

139. Yep, Hillary, no laughing matter.

[senz]

141. Hillary smirked & laughed while O'Malley spoke.

[Robbins]

174. CLinton just told young voters

just shut up.i am going to be nominee and you have no choice.

not doing anything to earn their vote.

[hrmjustin]

146. He needs to stop yelling.

[valerief]

157. Cuz you'd like him then.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

165. She needs to stop squawking

[nc4bo]

167. And SHE needs to stop lying and weathervaning

It is not coming across as being very trustworthy.

[Renew Deal]

176. I think she might have won the exchange on health care

I want to see it again, but she was pretty convincing about not starting over.

[Kentonio]

197. She just did her level best to sell universal healthcare down the river.

I will never, ever forgive her for that.

[Renew Deal]

220. She didn't criticize single payer.

And she supporters universal healthcare. She made the case that ending ACA and replacing Medicare for all would be too hard because the public option was too hard.

[RoccoR5955]

201. She convinced me

that she still wants all those CEOs of insurance companies to make millions, and to hell with the rest of us.

[uponit7771]

168. +1, and answer a damn question practically about how he's going to get that BS....

... single payer plan passed the GOP gerrymandered congress

[hrmjustin]

175. And why he doesn't raise money for the party.

[Satch59]

156. I love all 3...but...

Bernie would be more effective if he just toned the yelling down? He's saying good things but he's losing his voice already...calm down buddy...

[senz]

170. He's fine. His voice has been scratchy from speaking at rallies.

[narnian60]

173. Passion does that to a body.

[valerief]

177. He's got to talk over Lester who keeps trying to shut him up. nt

[Stuckinthebush]

199. He is taking too long to get to his point

Lester is being a moderator. He's doing a fine job

[firebrand80]

181. Every pitch is a fastball nt

[tishaLA]

185. both he and Sec Clinton need to use some indoor voice nt

[earthside]

191. But it communicates his passion ...

... and his honesty.

I want a person as President who will fight for me -- and that is coming out of the television when Bernie gets excited.

Hillary, on the other hand, tries to be so 'reasonable' sounding that she comes across as being a typical politician.

[demwing]

200. I don't love all three - In fact, tonight I've hit my Hillary threshold

She's lying, she knows it, and she doesn't care. It's a fucking game that she needs to win, and I have no confidence in her character.

I can't support a candidate that lies, and if it means that I can't post at DU, I'll have to learn to live with that.

[tishaLA]

164. Secretary Clinton on how she's going to attract the young "hep cats"

like Sen Sanders does. And it's not going well....

not well at all...

but it's better than "ask the governor of Vermont" I suppose.

I think I'd like to hear more from Gov MO'M

[Duckhunter935]

172. poor O'M

I feel sorry for him, they ignore him and cut him off. That is just not at all fair.

[DavidDvorkin]

178. As always

It's not a bug. It's a feature.

[darkangel218]

184. The host is an asshole.

Extremely bias against both O'Malley and Bernie.

[Renew Deal]

194. I don't think they're biased against Bernie

They ask him questions and let him respond. They don't even talk to O'Malley

[darkangel218]

204. Really?

Questions such as : how do you expect to win since you call yourself a Democratic Socialist???

Yah right!!

I expect that on Limpaugh show, not in a DEM debate.

[Renew Deal]

237. That's a legitimate question

[darkangel218]

238. Bull.

Are semantics more important than issues??

Like I said, I expect Limpaugh to go after that, not a host in a Democratic Debate.

[Renew Deal]

243. Look at who the hosts are

Hardly the league of women voters

[KingCharlemagne]

246. Did he ask HRC how she plans to win with the blood of

1 MILLION INNOCENT IRAQIS dripping from her hands?

[elleng]

192. Not at all!

[RoccoR5955]

186. I feel that this "debate" is a farce.

What with Alan Greenspan's wife being one of the ones who sets Hillary up to attack Bernie, this is just another DNC plan to insure the coronation of the queen.

[Beaverhausen]

189. Thread #2 is up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511022251

[awake]

190. did any one else notice how when Hillary attacked Bernie on healthcare she could not look

at him in the eye but looked the other way

[itsrobert]

202. I have a hard time watching this

Hillary vs Sanders. it's not a fair fight. Sanders is being way outclassed. Looks like another easy debate win for Hillary.

Sander fans better start "berning" those online polls. Maybe he can get a "win" at the BurlingtonExaminer.com online poll.

[RoccoR5955]

211. WHAT?!?!?!

Clinton is clearly speaking from the point of being on the side of so far, insurance CEOs, and the status quo.
How can you say that she is winning? Did she take a valium before the debate or something?

[OrwellwasRight]

209. Very shameful that Dems booed Sanders for not taking any money from Wall Street.

[senz]

218. Those weren't Dems. Those were DLC/Third Way DINOs.

[Juicy_Bellows]

221. Our watching party cheered.

I'd like some crowd shots occasionally.

[OrwellwasRight]

226. Agree. Let's see the crowd.

[senz]

213. Hill is now fighting VERY dirty. She is pitting Bernie against Obama.

[OrwellwasRight]

223. Very dirty.

And frankly designed to exploit race.

[nc4bo]

232. She's definitely digging in the dirty diaper pail! nt

[seabeyond]

233. Poor Sanders. Oh wait, Sanders put that in his campaign all by himself.

[ecstatic]

215. Wow @ Hillary bringing up Sander's attempt to primary Obama

And wow @ Bernie rewriting history.

[raouldukelives]

217. Call em out Bernie! The more they get from Wall St.

The more of our common fields they tear down the fences around and unleash massive herds of corporate free grazers.

[OrwellwasRight]

219. O'Malley needs to jump in.

[senz]

224. He just did!

[OrwellwasRight]

230. and got a good crowd response

Good for him.

[Renew Deal]

222. O'Malley getting his one question an hour.

[senz]

227. I'm loving me some O'Malley now.

[JRLeft]

228. Go O'Malley!

[Beaverhausen]

229. Please go to thread #2

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511022251

[senz]

235. Bernie's telling the truth about money running the county.

[valerief]

240. Mrs. Greenspan, "Bernie, taxes, taxes, taxes." Her agenda is clear. nt

[silenttigersong]

241. Andrea Mitchell

Comes off very biased .

[Duppers]

244. O'Malley for VP.

[Kalidurga]

248. Oh wow

Bernie is knocking it out of the park and hitting the window of a car dealership, err the window of the health insurance industry.