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KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 10:53 PM Jan 2016

I just flat out disagree with Hillary on medical care funding.

Truman was not fighting for the "affordable care act".
Americans do not want more access to INSURANCE. We want more access to MEDICAL CARE.



To be fair I didn't want ACA from the start. I KNOW we can do better. If Hillary does not think she can get universal access to medical care done for all citizens then I can respect that, but I want the next president to be someone who will move the gates of hell if that is what it takes to get it done.

Universal single payer is GOOD for business, good for citizens and good for this country. The only people it's not good for is Congress because it takes one reason to divide us and get slush money from lobbyists.

Insurance corps will not lose one thin dime of profits. They will just alter their business model and keep going. Businesses will be more competitive in the world since medical insurance costs will no longer be a burden and workers will be committed for the work and not for the health insurance.

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questionseverything

(9,653 posts)
2. she was not honest about support for the public option
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 10:57 PM
Jan 2016

she neglected to say the aca only passed by reconciliation,public option could of passed same way

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
11. That's not exactly true. The ACA was passed in 2 parts. The first part required 60 votes...
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jan 2016

the second part passed through reconciliation.

questionseverything

(9,653 posts)
12. the point that public option could of passed the 50 vote threshold that
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:32 PM
Jan 2016

reconciliation required is still true

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
3. she's bought and paid for on the issue
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jan 2016

unless you're on the board of Etna I wouldn't expect you to agree.

Autumn

(45,064 posts)
5. I just flat out disagree with Hillary on medical care funding also, she is
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jan 2016

deceitful as can be in her quest to protect the insurance companies and Wall Street, and I disagree with just about anything else that she says. Truman was not fighting for the "affordable care act". is 100% correct.

onecaliberal

(32,847 posts)
9. I want access, I want the 26 million without anything to have what I have.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jan 2016

Saying we should go with a system that leaves out 26 millions is the height of absurdity.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
10. We have access to BMW dealers too..that doesn't mean you can afford one..
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jan 2016

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I am really annoyed with that "access" word... ON EDIT, it is like COBRA is meant
to give us "access" to insurance if we lose our job. The number of people that can afford to use COBRA, or are even able to scrape the funds to use it are very few...some "access"...

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
13. I obviously disagree with your view but
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jan 2016

I respect the fact you are willing to just come out and say you think medical care for the sick should be treated as a luxury product only the rich should be able to afford.

pretty brave on a progressive board......

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
16. Actually I was saying the exact opposite and you misunderstood... I agree with your post!
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 08:13 AM
Jan 2016

I just have problems with the word "access." Access to health insurance doesn't mean you can afford to use healthcare if your coinsurance and deductible is too high. Sorry if I wasn't clear...I think everyone has a right to healthcare regardless of ability to pay. Some people think the "access" to insurance through the ACA enables those newly insured to have access to health care...but if you have a high deductible, high coinsurance policy..that "access" is close to worthless if you can't afford to use it. "Access" in a single payer system is much better than "access" under the ACA.

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