2016 Postmortem
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I thought I heard Hillary say they are the problem.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)and he's still at it, finding and selling and distributing the proceeds to the creditors.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Was it clever of her to blame a Wall Street firm that no longer exists, or did she mess up?
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)global1
(25,241 posts)It was safe to attack Lehman and not incurring the wrath of the Goldman Sachs such companies that still exist and can be a source of campaign money.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)on account of the subprime mortgage mess. I think they were liquidated soon afterwards.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)It's been keeping several high-priced lawyers in steak for years already.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)The SIPA Liquidation of Lehman Brothers Inc. James W. Giddens, Trustee
Lehman Brothers Trustee Wants to Give Unsecureds $2 Billion
07/14/15 - 05:50 PM EDT
http://www.thestreet.com/story/13218621/1/lehman-brothers-trustee-wants-to-give-unsecureds-2-billion.html
http://www.wsj.com/articles/lehman-trustee-begins-third-payout-to-brokerage-creditors-1441805748
The trustee in charge of Lehman Brothers Inc. on Wednesday began distributing about $1.75 billion more to the defunct brokerages unsecured creditors, the third such distribution since he finished paying off the brokerages customers last year.
The payments, approved by Lehmans bankruptcy judge early last month, will bring the total amount returned to unsecured creditors to around $7.65 billion, a recovery of about 35 cents on the dollar. Combined with distributions made to customers, the total amount recovered in the brokerages liquidation will be around $114 billion.
The third multibillion-dollar distribution to general creditors is under way as winding down the estate moves ahead, said the trustee, James W. Giddens. We will continue to resolve remaining claims to maximize potential future distributions and successfully conclude the largest broker-dealer liquidation in history.
Judge Shelley C. Chapman of U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan commended Mr. Giddens for his efforts at the hearing last month, calling it an incredibly extraordinary accomplishment.
Mr. Giddens had said that after this third distribution is complete, further payouts would be contingent on winning or settling pending litigation, which would free up funds currently on reserve.
The trustee began paying back creditorsformer employees, pension funds, banks and investment firms with unsecured claims against the brokeragelast summer after making the brokerages customers whole.
The distinction between customer and unsecured creditor is a crucial one in the Lehman case. Customer claims get paid before creditor claims under the law covering failed broker-dealers, the Securities Investor Protection Act of 1970.
Customers got 100% of their money back, as have those holding secured and priority claims. Unsecured creditors get much less, albeit much more than most parties in the case originally expected.
As Mr. Giddens has resolved and settled more claims, he has asked Judge Chapman to approve distributions to the creditors.
Individual customers of the U.S. brokerage, which is under the purview of the bankruptcy court but not technically in bankruptcy protection, received about $92.3 billion almost immediately after Lehman collapsed. In all, Mr. Giddens will have exceeded his goal of returning $110 billion by nearly $4 billion when this distribution is finished.
Lehman, once the nations fourth-largest investment bank by assets under management, collapsed into the largest bankruptcy ever in September 2008 with $613 billion in liabilities.
The filing sent markets into turmoil and helped trigger a global financial crisis. Lehmans brokerage business was quickly sold to Barclays PLC, and the companys New York-based holding company officially exited bankruptcy in 2012.
The Lehman estate, which itself has paid back around $100 billion to creditors, is still winding down and selling its remaining holdings, a process that is expected to continue for several more years. Judge Chapman is overseeing both proceedings.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)"has paid back around $100 billion to creditors,"
and is still selling off assets.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)Lehmans operated on at least two continents with multiple subsidiaries, maybe even China. There were multiple lawsuits, even branches of Lehmans duking it out with each other.
First the trustee had to find all the assets and debtors, and then all the creditors, get a court to agree, figure out who was a valid claimant, sell off everything that didn't actually belong to someone or something else (and give back stuff held in trust), collect from the debtors, get approval to distribute the results, wash, rinse, repeat.
The complexity is a clue, IMO, of the running of a fraudulent enterprise. The bankruptcy is the second clue...