2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo when Sanders says getting rid of private insurance which is what the ACA is he in fact is
Getting rid of Obamacare.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,171 posts)will stay alive by selling supplementary plans.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I know currently even if your on Medicare --which I am -- one must get a Plan B policy,
so your question is a good one.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,171 posts)Even though Plan B went up, it's still a bargain.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)it's way better than NOT being on Medicare. Before ACA, I had NO monthly premium, but now it's $40
a month + what they take out of SS check. My co-pays are also higher now, and now they are starting
to deny coverage for some things on flimsy grounds. I'm with AARP's United Healthcare.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Eom
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Not private insurance.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)Why is his position not being hailed as "Finishing the job"?
artislife
(9,497 posts)I read how these posters in this thread will happily continue the smear and I am at 99% sure that I will never vote for h. Ever. They don't have the guts to be transparent about their stands on issues, because there is no stand on issues, just that they stand with her. No matter where she is going this week.
Lack of moral compass, lack of ethics, her campaign makes me want to weep for the Democratic Party.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Comprehensive universal public health insurance. Everyone covered from birth to death. No premiums. No deductibles. No copays.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)Since the beginning of the Medicare program, CMS has contracted with private insurance companies to operate as intermediaries between the government and medical providers. Contracted processes include claims and payment processing, call center services, clinician enrollment, and fraud investigation.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)#Administration
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)that is right out of the republican playbook and simply will not fly here. All private insurance does is steal money from people by not providing actual healthcare, just ask steven hemsley, (sp) united health care ceo, got over a billion dollars in compensation. How many people died because of all the fking money that bastard stole. Dollar Bill maquire another one. Insurance companies, a for profit leaching system does nobody any good. They are not needed period.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)Presumably, they still would (probably more so, because more people would be using it)
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)Autumn
(45,048 posts)being mandated to purchase insurance, a product that the government uses a lot of tax dollars to pay for that many people can't afford to use, Hell yes Obamacare needs to go. Single Payer!!!
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)The ACA preserves private healthcare companies and practically enshrines them as institutions.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)The private insurance portion of ACA got the most fanfare but it's only one part (major part) of ACA.
ACA provided more funding to states for medicaid and children's healthcare services. it also provided more funding to schools to improve the nutritional value of lunches, add more breakfasts and even dinners to ask risk kids, along with nutrition counseling to the community as a whole. It also required the food industry to be more transparent on nutrition content so consumer can make better choices. It also increased grants to hospitals and providers for care that is never reimbursed.
Since medicare is state based now the provisions of the affordable care act that actually benefit America could remain intact while moving the private insurance component over to Medicare.
You would not have to trash the whole thing.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Why do you want people to go without healthcare?
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Why anyone would want a fellow citizen to DIE because they can't afford Health Insurance, is beyond me and really quite sick (no pun intended).
We need to get the greedy insurance companies OUT OF OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
I'm going to edit my post.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)Since Reagan, it has been downhill and accelerating.
mvd
(65,172 posts)And unlike what Hillary says, Bernie would not just scrap Obamacare and leave so many uninsured. He wants to work toward a Single Payer plan, and I agree that we really need it. While I was able to get another plan on the exchange, it's more expensive. But without Obamacare, I would have had the even worse Aetna plan. So there is good, but we need a new system.
Jarqui
(10,123 posts)for all through Medicare for all.
This nonsense about "getting rid" of medical care or raising taxes is bullshit. Most folks will easily pay the additional taxes of $500 bucks or whatever with the elimination of $5,000 per year in private health care premiums.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)wouldn't be able to compete and that's a good thing
artislife
(9,497 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)at the same level of access.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...just don't care about those people.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Up until the ACA was passed we lost 40-50,000 people a year to treatable illnesses and conditions.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)eom
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...you make ACA better. It's a no-brainer.
valerief
(53,235 posts)to Medicare and improving on what Medicare covers so that everyone will real care as a right without the big bill. I'm paying $600/month for ACA and that's with a credit. I'd love to pay a few hundred a year for Medicare for All.
It's not a hard concept at all. Unless you're rooting for the private insurance gougers.