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So when Sanders says getting rid of private insurance which is what the ACA is he in fact is (Original Post) bigdarryl Jan 2016 OP
He's getting rid of the Vampiric private insurance component, not taking away anything else. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #1
My guess is that that some insurance companies TexasBushwhacker Jan 2016 #3
perhaps, I'd like to learn more about whether Bernie's plan requires that or not. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #19
I'm on Medicare too TexasBushwhacker Jan 2016 #25
Yah, mine went up under ACA too, which I didn't like and cannot afford, but still 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #34
The ACA is private insurance? Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #2
The non very poor part. Yes. PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #5
DU Rec. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #4
K&R mcar Jan 2016 #6
My ACA insurance is medicaid. PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #7
Wasn't the ACA billed as a stepping stone to single-payer? TCJ70 Jan 2016 #8
Because it would mean the h didn't have a real issue to be against. artislife Jan 2016 #31
Yes. It replaces the half baked ACA. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #9
Private insurance companies administer medicare Orangepeel Jan 2016 #10
No sorry you're wrong, its called Medicare advantage, a private insurance SUPPLIMENT to Medicare. litlbilly Jan 2016 #15
I'm not wrong. CMS outsources some administrative functions to insurance companies Orangepeel Jan 2016 #16
blablablabla.... litlbilly Jan 2016 #17
Administrative functions is not the same as owning and running the system Armstead Jan 2016 #28
No, but it means that insurance companies probably wouldn't go away Orangepeel Jan 2016 #35
Yes the ACA is an improvement over what we had, but we can do far better. JRLeft Jan 2016 #11
you think? 6 or 7k decuctable, copays, still a giveaway to the drug and insurance companies. litlbilly Jan 2016 #20
No he is in fact going after Single Payer, which is healthcare. Better healthcare than Autumn Jan 2016 #12
Um what? That is not the ACA LittleBlue Jan 2016 #13
Partly. KentuckyWoman Jan 2016 #14
He's getting rid of the insurance GREEDY VULTURES. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #18
We dont need health insurance, we all need healthcare. dont need the greedy middlemen at all litlbilly Jan 2016 #22
That's what I meant. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #24
I think we didnt notice that much say in the 70s because it was fairly cheap then. NOw, not so much. litlbilly Jan 2016 #26
Good point mvd Jan 2016 #27
Or you could easily argue Sanders wants Obamacare Jarqui Jan 2016 #21
Or, just add the public option into medicare. then the insurance companies would just go away, they litlbilly Jan 2016 #23
Great way to turn it around! nt. artislife Jan 2016 #32
I will put you down as a fan of keeping the 29 million who now don't have access to health care Kalidurga Jan 2016 #29
That is pretty much a defining line, with the poorest Americans very clearly defined. Some people.. ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #37
Yes I know Kalidurga Jan 2016 #38
and good riddence to private insurers and for-profit health care.... mike_c Jan 2016 #30
All the benefits of ACA will stay like no preexisting conditions, kids to 26, etc. This is how... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #33
He's getting rid of the private insurance companies in the ACA and moving the administration of it valerief Jan 2016 #36
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
19. perhaps, I'd like to learn more about whether Bernie's plan requires that or not.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:57 PM
Jan 2016

I know currently even if your on Medicare --which I am -- one must get a Plan B policy,
so your question is a good one.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
34. Yah, mine went up under ACA too, which I didn't like and cannot afford, but still
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:21 AM
Jan 2016

it's way better than NOT being on Medicare. Before ACA, I had NO monthly premium, but now it's $40
a month + what they take out of SS check. My co-pays are also higher now, and now they are starting
to deny coverage for some things on flimsy grounds. I'm with AARP's United Healthcare.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
8. Wasn't the ACA billed as a stepping stone to single-payer?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jan 2016

Why is his position not being hailed as "Finishing the job"?

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
31. Because it would mean the h didn't have a real issue to be against.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jan 2016

I read how these posters in this thread will happily continue the smear and I am at 99% sure that I will never vote for h. Ever. They don't have the guts to be transparent about their stands on issues, because there is no stand on issues, just that they stand with her. No matter where she is going this week.

Lack of moral compass, lack of ethics, her campaign makes me want to weep for the Democratic Party.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
9. Yes. It replaces the half baked ACA.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jan 2016

Comprehensive universal public health insurance. Everyone covered from birth to death. No premiums. No deductibles. No copays.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
10. Private insurance companies administer medicare
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jan 2016

Since the beginning of the Medicare program, CMS has contracted with private insurance companies to operate as intermediaries between the government and medical providers. Contracted processes include claims and payment processing, call center services, clinician enrollment, and fraud investigation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)#Administration

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
15. No sorry you're wrong, its called Medicare advantage, a private insurance SUPPLIMENT to Medicare.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:50 PM
Jan 2016

that is right out of the republican playbook and simply will not fly here. All private insurance does is steal money from people by not providing actual healthcare, just ask steven hemsley, (sp) united health care ceo, got over a billion dollars in compensation. How many people died because of all the fking money that bastard stole. Dollar Bill maquire another one. Insurance companies, a for profit leaching system does nobody any good. They are not needed period.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
16. I'm not wrong. CMS outsources some administrative functions to insurance companies
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jan 2016

Presumably, they still would (probably more so, because more people would be using it)

Autumn

(45,048 posts)
12. No he is in fact going after Single Payer, which is healthcare. Better healthcare than
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:47 PM
Jan 2016

being mandated to purchase insurance, a product that the government uses a lot of tax dollars to pay for that many people can't afford to use, Hell yes Obamacare needs to go. Single Payer!!!

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
13. Um what? That is not the ACA
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:49 PM
Jan 2016

The ACA preserves private healthcare companies and practically enshrines them as institutions.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
14. Partly.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:50 PM
Jan 2016

The private insurance portion of ACA got the most fanfare but it's only one part (major part) of ACA.

ACA provided more funding to states for medicaid and children's healthcare services. it also provided more funding to schools to improve the nutritional value of lunches, add more breakfasts and even dinners to ask risk kids, along with nutrition counseling to the community as a whole. It also required the food industry to be more transparent on nutrition content so consumer can make better choices. It also increased grants to hospitals and providers for care that is never reimbursed.

Since medicare is state based now the provisions of the affordable care act that actually benefit America could remain intact while moving the private insurance component over to Medicare.

You would not have to trash the whole thing.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
24. That's what I meant.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jan 2016

Why anyone would want a fellow citizen to DIE because they can't afford Health Insurance, is beyond me and really quite sick (no pun intended).

We need to get the greedy insurance companies OUT OF OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

I'm going to edit my post.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
26. I think we didnt notice that much say in the 70s because it was fairly cheap then. NOw, not so much.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:10 AM
Jan 2016

Since Reagan, it has been downhill and accelerating.

mvd

(65,172 posts)
27. Good point
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:11 AM
Jan 2016

And unlike what Hillary says, Bernie would not just scrap Obamacare and leave so many uninsured. He wants to work toward a Single Payer plan, and I agree that we really need it. While I was able to get another plan on the exchange, it's more expensive. But without Obamacare, I would have had the even worse Aetna plan. So there is good, but we need a new system.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
21. Or you could easily argue Sanders wants Obamacare
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jan 2016

for all through Medicare for all.

This nonsense about "getting rid" of medical care or raising taxes is bullshit. Most folks will easily pay the additional taxes of $500 bucks or whatever with the elimination of $5,000 per year in private health care premiums.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
23. Or, just add the public option into medicare. then the insurance companies would just go away, they
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:59 PM
Jan 2016

wouldn't be able to compete and that's a good thing

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
29. I will put you down as a fan of keeping the 29 million who now don't have access to health care
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:12 AM
Jan 2016

at the same level of access.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
37. That is pretty much a defining line, with the poorest Americans very clearly defined. Some people..
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:30 AM
Jan 2016

...just don't care about those people.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
38. Yes I know
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jan 2016

Up until the ACA was passed we lost 40-50,000 people a year to treatable illnesses and conditions.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
33. All the benefits of ACA will stay like no preexisting conditions, kids to 26, etc. This is how...
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:19 AM
Jan 2016

...you make ACA better. It's a no-brainer.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
36. He's getting rid of the private insurance companies in the ACA and moving the administration of it
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jan 2016

to Medicare and improving on what Medicare covers so that everyone will real care as a right without the big bill. I'm paying $600/month for ACA and that's with a credit. I'd love to pay a few hundred a year for Medicare for All.

It's not a hard concept at all. Unless you're rooting for the private insurance gougers.

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