Bernie waited for Hillary but she turned and walked away! That felt horrible!

[ViseGrip]

All said good night and Bernie waited for Hillary to continue speaking to another, then she turned and walked away. You could see it was deliberate and it looked horrible!

[fleur-de-lisa]

1. Yes, she looked petty for doing that. eom

[hopemountain]

139. yes. one has to be careful of how one treats an

opponent because the manner and attitude can work in favor of the opponent - as pointed out by david axelrod during his summary at the end of the cnn debate redux program.

[bigdarryl]

2. What

The fuck!!

[FlatBaroque]

3. No class whatsoever. Money cannot buy class.

[ViseGrip]

7. bad sportsmanship for sure

[CorporatistNation]

29. That Is Just Hillary Being Hillary.. That IS WHO She IS!!!

There should be no surprise here. Hillary is PISSED!!! Because she got "caught" lying on several occasions principally about her absurd criticisms from the RIGHT about Bernie's Health Care plan, guns, and lying about Wall Street. She got exposed and she IS PISSED!!!!

[hifiguy]

40. Thread winner.

That's exactly who snd what she is.

[kristopher]

87. She looked like she was going to explode when the speaking fees were brought out.

I'd love to know how many time "hillary speaking fees" was googled.

[MissDeeds]

48. Yep

But she is entitled. Besides, her private jet was probably waiting for her.

[CorporatistNation]

55. Money Has Exacerbated Her Lack of Character!

!

[azmom]

4. Classless

[DURHAM D]

5. Good

[tk2kewl]

12. why is it good?

[demmiblue]

17. Because PUMA?

I can't think of any other reason why one would condone rude behavior.

[Green Forest]

24. Because Hillary Is The Perfect Queen of All She Surveys and Bernie is a peasant w/a pitchfork.

Good.

[scottie55]

63. Hey, I Got The Picthfork

See....

[Delmette]

113. I have a pitchfork, too!!

[Warren DeMontague]

21. BECAUSE HE DARED TO RUN AGAINST HER, AND IT IS HER TURN DAMMIT

...basically.

[SammyWinstonJack]

32. Oh yeah......basically. She's not amused.

[Green Forest]

20. Stay classy.

[Logical]

22. It's a trait you love about, her being rude? Nt

[Green Forest]

27. Careful! Hillary Is Not To Be Criticized Because She Is Perfection In A Pantsuit.

Really.

[passiveporcupine]

70. Why would you encourage your candidate to act unprofessionally and discourteously?

Did you like Obama? Could you even imagine him ever acting this way?

All through the debate she was glaring and rude, especially to Bernie, whiile O'Malley and Bernie were polite (even when disputing her) in voice and manner.

She can be an asshole at times (which you clearly seem to enjoy) and that's why so many people really don't want to see her in the white house. We want people with courtesy and compassion, like Obama and Bernie. She says she can get people to work together? When she treats them like that? Nope! She is not a uniter. she is power hungry and thinks she can force her will on people. She hates it when people stand up to her like Bernie did tonight.

[Marty McGraw]

88. courtesy and compassion

where necessitates. Sometime though a little of standing somebody up to the wall LBJ style couldn't hurt.

[CorporatistNation]

134. Agreed... Hillary Reay IS Full of Herself and IS Miserable To Her Colleagues.

How can someone bring people together when she acts like a 14 year old high school girl. Further evidence denoting her less than adequate character as a person much less a President! K and R!

[stillwaiting]

99. Added to the list! How have I missed doing so before? I don't play with nasties. nt

[cui bono]

117. Good

that she will not be president and able to behave so rudely and classlessly with foreign leaders. Wonder if she did/had done that as SOS?

.

[Skwmom]

6. The truth hurts. n/t

[tokenlib]

8. arrogance...n/t

[earthside]

9. Really?

I had to go tend to some business and missed the very end.

Well, that demonstrates that Hillary knows that Sen. Sanders clearly won this debate.

[FlatBaroque]

10. It was cringeworthy nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. Sore loser.

I cannot wait until February 1st. He's going to win in a landslide....then she'll have a reason to pout.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[7wo7rees]

13. And now it gets real........ And ugly. Damned shame...

[pa28]

14. Sympathy visegrip, sympathy.

Losing your nomination twice in a row when you did everything right and followed all the rules has got to be tough.

[wilsonbooks]

18. The seven emotional stages of grief

The seven emotional stages of grief are usually understood to be shock or disbelief, denial, bargaining, guilt, anger, depression, and acceptance/hope. Symptoms of grief can be emotional, physical, social, or religious in nature.

[tazkcmo]

28. Everything right?

That's not what I saw. I saw lots of lies, "evolving" and 3rd Way/DLC policies.

[pa28]

39. That's exactly what I meant by "everything right".

Unfortunately for her it's not "right" this year.

[tazkcmo]

41. ok, sorry.

Misunderstood. I'm a little slow at times...

[pa28]

51. Nah, just my sidways sense of humor.

This was a good night for Bernie.

[Fawke Em]

56. I'll quibble with the "did every thing right" part.

Unless you mean, "TO the right."

[libdem4life]

130. My thoughts exactly, and throw in some shady, stinky, shadowy things to complete it.

[nc4bo]

15. No worries. ...Bernie won that debate and she knows it

And HRH is not amused.

#Feelinberned

[Rosa Luxemburg]

59. He did win it

[gwheezie]

16. Maybe she had to pee?

Seriously what is wrong with some of you? I saw her and Bernie during one of the breaks walk over to him smiling and put her hand out to him.
They looked pretty cordial to me.

[Logical]

23. LOL, good one! Nt

[firebrand80]

101. +1

[greiner3]

110. And of course you are aware of the significance of the hand shake

In olden times shaking with the right hand (a right handed man takes just that longer to stick a knife into you so an empty hand signifies that person will not stab you at least until your back is turned. BTW she may have been "cordial"to that moment but after he trounced her and 'wounded' her she offered no promises to the stabbing in the future.

[gwheezie]

112. Bernie will be fine

I think ya'll are reading too much into this.

[cui bono]

118. No one is worried about Bernie being fine, we know he's awesome.

This is about Hillary being exceptionally rude and unprofessional.

.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

19. Dang, went to pee and missed it. Oh well, Trevor Noah will have it on TDS tomorrow night, so... nt

[JRLeft]

25. I don't think that means anything.

[left-of-center2012]

26. Was her nose out of joint? n/t

[Skwmom]

30. Not very presidential. n/t

[jalan48]

31. She's special.

[navarth]

33. I missed that

but I agree it was a really, really good debate for Bernie.

Any one of these three would be better than the Reptilians. Obviously I prefer Bernie. I also felt that my second choice, Martin O'Malley, really made a dent tonight. And he sure was patient with the way Lester and Mrs. Greenspan ignored him.

[Duval]

123. He's my second choice. Maybe a good VP?

[polichick]

34. True colors?

[zentrum]

35. Does anyone of video of these last moments?

I've looked and can't find it.

[ViseGrip]

37. MSNBC is showing it again, don't know if they'll continue it after, showing them standing around

talking. I can't help out because I cut my cord.

[zentrum]

45. Thanks. Tried to

…..find the end part but can't get it to come up. Thanx anyway.

[Ino]

92. Here it is...

Last edited Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Go to 30 seconds in
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2016/01/18/did-hillary-avoid-shaking-hands-bernie-after-democrat-debate

[restorefreedom]

97. thanks

wow. entitled and pissed off. if i say any more i will get a hide.

no doubt that was a snub. she even looked at him.

wow.

[zentrum]

108. Tried to find the

…..moment in this video and all I saw on screen at the end was Chuck, Alan Greenspan's wife, and DWS. Do you have a sense of the minute marks this snub occurred in?

[restorefreedom]

115. here

comment #35 is the video. the commenter gave the mark..inhink around 2.50 something its in the comment thhough with the video

it goes back to the candidates after todd talks

[restorefreedom]

116. dammit

Last edited Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)

forgot the link

2.50.20 mark

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511023169

[Duval]

124. No worries, restorefreedom!

I'm glad no one here can see the dumb mistakes I make on my iPhone! We all do it!!

[restorefreedom]

128. :)

[zentrum]

127. Thanks so much!

Very helpful!

Now that I've seen it——it does look like it was a deliberate snub and he knew it too. Unpleasant.

[restorefreedom]

129. most welcome...yeah, it was pretty ugly. nt

[ecstatic]

36. Did she even see him or know his supposed intentions?

You're assuming he was waiting for her, and assuming she purposely snubbed him. Let's not jump to conclusions!

[ViseGrip]

43. Customary to shake hands, say whatever, always. Only the Hillary Bernie one did not take place.

He was standing there waiting for her to finish, she of course knows the etiquette. This really shows you who she is. Along with being a mother who sent her daughter out to lie. She lied about that again tonight as well, along with saying she is now for 'single payer'. Did you hear that? Anyone catch that?

Hillary is now for single payer? She needs to be asked about this answer that she gave.

[Beaverhausen]

44. Don't bother

They'll use anything they can against her.

[artislife]

138. Just her actions. nt

[zentrum]

38. Here's some on-line polls

…for who won tonight.


http://time.com/4183949/democratic-debate-fourth-charleston-poll-survey/

http://fox5sandiego.com/2016/01/17/poll-who-won-the-4th-democratic-debate/

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/01/who_won_the_democratic_presidential_debate_vote_in_our_poll.html


http://www.syracuse.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/01/poll_who_won_sundays_democratic_2016_presidential_debate.html

[Plucketeer]

54. Good GOD! Lookit those numbers!

Those DAMNED Bernie folks - voting and voting and voting and voting and..... Hope they vote like that in IA and NH !!!! And of course, the HRC faithful would NEVER vote more than once. Nooooooooooooooooooooo.....

[Ed Suspicious]

64. I hope some Hillary supporters get the internet, mice, time, and fingers, because these aren't just

for Bernie supporters to participate in.

[tblue37]

57. Time poll: BS 87%; HC 10%; MOM 3%.

Slate poll: BS 85%; HC 12%; MOM 2%.

2nd link poll: BS 94.59%; HC 3.89%; MOM 1.52%

4th link poll: BS 94.35%; HC 3.81%; MOM 1.84%

[Duval]

125. Wow!! And it will only get better for Sanders.

[George II]

62. The big joke is that for every one of those, a person can vote as many times as one wants....

....this isn't Chicago.

BTW, I voted 10 times for Clinton and then got tired and realized that it was idiotic to continue.

Note: how many of those "polls" said they were unscientific?

[Iwillnevergiveup]

67. You know, that's funny

because I tried voting for Bernie twice on the Time poll. It was at 71,645 after I voted once and remained at that number afterward.

[cui bono]

119. Turns out the big joke wasn't what someone thought it was after all!

.

[TheBlackAdder]

75. So, you admit to trying to skew the online the voting process? Interesting. nt

[zentrum]

77. You've heard of cookies

….haven't you?

Just because it looks like you can log out and in and "vote" again, and the screen lets you do that—doesn't mean your repeat votes are actually counted—because of cookies.

They recognize you and your vote and don't count it over and over again.

[Marty McGraw]

90. I suppose one

can tell their browser to gobble all them cookies if it has been behaving the way it should.

but I highly doubt this was the case for the majority of the surveyed.

[Lorien]

80. Um, none allow more than one vote

try it for yourself!

[FailureToCommunicate]

42. I didn't catch that, BUT I liked that NBC announced that Bernie was the "winner" in the

view of their political commentator immediately afterward.

[ViseGrip]

46. ^^^THIS^^^

[dsc]

47. yes women must always wait for men before they can leave a room

how dare she forget that.

[SunSeeker]

73. LOL

Ridiculous isn't it?

[FlatBaroque]

100. The entire Hillary for President 2016 campaign wrapped up in one post on DU

[DisgustipatedinCA]

109. No shit. It's pitiful.

[George II]

49. Maybe if he didn't keep interrupting her and O'Malley she might have been more receptive....

....but bottom line she was 10X more polite to him than he was to her.

[Hulk]

50. BBC declared HRC "the winner"

I guess I missed something. I wasn't impressed by her desperation and her feigning anger and domination with her answers. Shawdy.

[ViseGrip]

52. More corporate media ....

[Hulk]

53. That's all it is.

That's why I switched over to fox (get it piped in with cable down here in central Mexico.). I can't stand to listen to chuckie, ms greenspan, or any of the other corporate whores tell me what I should think.

I expect propaganda bull shit from fox. Never disappointed.

[Nictuku]

81. Exactly.

[link:|

[George II]

103. BBC is "corporate media"?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

58. The British Broadcasting corporation?

Tory influenced

[countmyvote4real]

60. When they show you who they are, believe them. n/t

[Ed Suspicious]

66. +1

[Still In Wisconsin]

61. Hillary Clinton is a loathsome human being.

That is all.

[Beacool]

71. Did you forget that this is a Democratic site?

The nonsense one reads here is astounding........

[haikugal]

86. LOL

[Gene Debs]

82. I'm a registered Democrat, and I, too, find Hillary Clinton to be a loathsome human being. The two

aren't mutually exclusive.

[bananas]

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[TheFarS1de]

91. Strange .

Do they allow multiple reports ?

[ViseGrip]

65. It just looked bad.

[DFW]

68. I agree. It was very conspicuous and poor form.

I wonder what was behind that?

[Divernan]

94. Thought she could insult him on the downlow?

Hillary has remained unable to grasp the reality/possibility of being videotaped just about anywhere.

[DFW]

104. Hard to imagine. She is pretty media-savvy by now

Maybe something happened during a break backstage? They seemed cordial in the middle. I'll bet something was said that none of us know about.

[Kall]

69. Maybe there'll be video

Although I will say it wouldn't surprise me, even though perceptions can be different. People aren't supposed to get in her way.

If she was upset about being called out about her and Chelsea's coordinated lies about Bernie's health care plan, I have no sympathy for her. She shouldn't have made them.

[ViseGrip]

72. Exactly...

I look at the debate reports tonight, and it's clear they're pissed off about something. Hillary lying for a week or the real support for Sanders, that will bulldoze the media in IA and NH?

[KingCharlemagne]

74. I hope IA, NH, NV and SC voters drive her out

of the race for that impertinence.

Ugh, just ugh.

[Mira]

76. I saw it, and it made my innards cringe

What makes me sad and wary is that for reasons I don't fully understand I can read and see and hear the thinly veiled thread of what is underlying Mrs. Clinton's words, demeanor and smiles. Unfortunately what I am picking up is mostly a tremendous desire to be President, and it is not really for the right reasons. It to me is almost as if she is putting on being a politician I mistrust as if she were applying make up. I see her fear of losing, and again it's not for reasons that serve the country.
And I specifically saw her dislike of Mr. Sanders and her realization that he bested her in honesty and charisma when she disregarded him callously at the end.

I will vote for Mrs. Clinton, if it comes to that. But first I will vote for Bernie with great hope.

[ViseGrip]

83. Exactly, I wanted to see the exchange, so I waited and watched. She knew he was right there waiting

[billhicks76]

85. She's An Embarrassment

And her attacks make her just look more vile.

[senz]

89. Shockingly immature behavior.

Lately I've been wondering what home life was like for the family.

[Divernan]

93. What tales the Secret Service could tell, but for those confidentiality oaths.

I realize they'd lose their government jobs/pensions if they spoke out, but I hope they are each keeping diaries and writing personal memoirs to be released after their deaths.

[JTFrog]

95. Yes, but it will subside once the primaries are over.

Manufacturing outrage over things like handshake-gate or bathroom-gate is indeed incredibly immature. DU used to be better than this.

[toshiba783]

96. alternate footage?

The video posted flips back and forth between Todd and the candidates - you do realize it's very possible, and likely, that Bernie and Hillary shook hands BEFORE walking from behind the podiums to meet with the moderators? In fact, Bernie doesn't even appear to be waiting for Hillary, rather waiting to shake hands with Andrea AFTER Hillary.

Do you actually have evidence to corroborate this attack or is it based off of assumptions?

[complain jane]

98. Where is video posted?

I'm interested in seeing too...

[toshiba783]

122. video

Around 2:50 - there is no evidence of Hillary "snubbing" Bernie. It's really odd to see over a hundred responses cheering for something that is based completely on illogical assumptions:

[complain jane]

140. Well she definitely ignored him but whether or not it was intentional

is anybody's guess.

[Vinca]

102. I think we have to cut Hillary some slack.

She was the anointed one who had already been fitted for the crown and I'm sure she's in a state of shock half the time.

[riversedge]

105. Yoda's comments fit your OP.....

[ViseGrip]

106. Unhinged? This is an observation of a clear snub in protocol, and it looked bad.

Some on Hillary's team didn't like it either. They hoped no one really noticed, as the debate was over. I want people to notice, the type of character she is and the rest of the family.

See 'parents send out daughter to lie'.

Bernie went to her after O'Malley, and after Hillary shook O'Malley's hand and began talking to someone else. Bernie stood there and waited for her to finish her conversation, to shake her hand. She clearly turned away, knowing he was there, waiting. Many here saw it too.
It speaks to a type of nastiness, and the people are fed up. Another negative action by Hillary.

[JTFrog]

107. An observation made only by her haters.

Haters are going to hate no matter what. They will make up handshake-gate and bathroom-gate and even try to blame Hillary herself for another campaign trying to steal her campaign data.

Yet she handles it all flawlessly.

[ViseGrip]

121. Why do you call me a 'hater'? I hate NO ONE in this world. You are a blog hack.

I'm for free speech. Your only answer to this snub that many saw is that I'm a hater?

You're a hater based on your ugly words. Not mine.

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[chervilant]

133. Flawlessly?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

(Snort, giggle, snicker, guffaw!!!)

You just keep telling yourself that, frog.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

111. How unsportsperson like.

But we all know it's her turn.

I certainly hope her flameout is spectacular and send a message to the turd way.

[farleftlib]

114. Her majesty was displeased

Quelle surprise.

[GeorgeGist]

120. It's the kind of thing you expect ...

from Republicans.

[RKP5637]

126. Yet another WTF!!!! n/t

[GoneOffShore]

131. Would that she would turn and walk completely away.

[riversedge]

135. You have not posted a video. Where is your evidence??

[Nedsdag]

136. The queen doesn't shake hands with minions.

"No She Can't!"

[2pooped2pop]

137. sadly that's the same angle her supporters will see of her if she is electec

walking away and acting like she never heard of them. Promises? what promises?

[99Forever]

141. Million$ and million$ and still no class.

Still acting like a high school mean girl.

Very fucking "presidential" Hillary.