2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNEW CNN poll Clinton leads nationwide but in tied In Iowa
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-clintontrump-lead-nationally-face-dead-heat-in-iowa-caucus-says-cnn-poll-2167498Nationwide-Clinton 54%(-2) Bernie 36%(+5)
Iowa-CLinton and Bernie both at 45%
GOP Clown show
Nationwide-Trump 34% Cruz 20% Rubio-12% Carson-10%
Iowa-Cruz 27% Trump 25% Rubio-14% Carson-10%
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)She is tied in polling. The problem with that isn't that landlines are polled. There is no evidence to show that people who use cell phones only are going to be more likely to vote for Bernie, I suspect it's the case, but whatever. The problem is the likely voter vs the registered voter model. They leave out the youngest voters. If Bernie has this group by an overwhelming margin and I believe he does since there is evidence for that then Hillary needs to be ahead in Iowa by at least 10% up to 40% if we are counting all millennials.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)All his young supporters are concentrated in college towns, and delegates are not awarded by the state popular vote but on a precinct level.
Will be interesting to see how this impacts things in the end.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I don't know if they are concentrated anywhere, but it's not in the polls that exclude the ones under the age of 26.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)You are of course correct about polls which ignore those under 26. We should look closely at those in the coming weeks.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I just don't know how big that problem is. Like how many millennials are over the age of 22 and how many under. I guess we'll find out on Feb. 1st.
marlakay
(11,425 posts)I just spent weekend canvassing in Reno and Carson City, where I met voters from both Bernie and Hillary.
While there I roomed with a lady in her 60's whose sister is from Iowa and she went there in June and got first row to a Bernie rally and got to shake his hand.
She said many people are for him, many of her sisters friends, not just the young and will be caucusing for him.
with only landlines being polled there is actully case to say some bernie supporters aren't being reached.
The trend In Iowa is with bernie not Clinton.being tied with bernie is bad news for her.
cantbeserious
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Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-3351.html
Although, at this point in the cycle I start holding my breath and waiting for Iowa to caucus. Obsessing over polls now can drive you crazy.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Looks like, if accurate, they accidentally released the information before the release time.
Robbins
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(6,282 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)best news of the day
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)54-36 is not a new CNN national poll, it is the the numbers from their last IOWA poll in late November/early December.
See here: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_democratic_presidential_caucus-3195.html#polls
There is no 56-31 CNN National poll at any time.
There was however a 56-31 National FOX Poll...in November.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html
DNA India might not be there best source for breaking polls.
Quixote1818
(28,918 posts)as soon as people started paying attention and gearing up to vote. Her support has never been that strong, only name recognition.