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Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:21 AM Jan 2016

How is Hillary any different than Bernie in getting legislation passed?

When someone asks how Bernie is going to pass legislation once elected, I have to ask the same thing about Hillary.

One can argue that Bernie has fewer foes in Congress.



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How is Hillary any different than Bernie in getting legislation passed? (Original Post) Gregorian Jan 2016 OP
She'll reach across the aisle like Bill and pass legislation for the corporations and 1%. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #1
Yep. Wilms Jan 2016 #11
The fact that Sanders is the only career politician running on our side,..... NCTraveler Jan 2016 #2
Hillary's not a career politician? LOL! merrily Jan 2016 #6
I'm well aware of that. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #8
Hillary got into politics earlier and deeper than most officeholders today. merrily Jan 2016 #15
Great point pandr32 Jan 2016 #10
The very fact that he has done a lot more legislation than her. More EXPERIENCE in this area. ViseGrip Jan 2016 #13
Really? Ask Jim Inhofe who his best friend in Congress is. snoringvoter Jan 2016 #14
Well she did reach across the aisle to help pass the Iraq War Resolution and the Patriot Act Bjorn Against Jan 2016 #3
Those were Republican bills that she jumped onto. We're talking (hopefully) Democratic legislation merrily Jan 2016 #7
IMO, Bernie would stand a much better chance than Hillary. merrily Jan 2016 #4
This! Thank you merrily! nt retrowire Jan 2016 #17
You're so very welcome! merrily Jan 2016 #18
Where are all of his friends in Congress? Very few endorsements and if some statements are correct, livetohike Jan 2016 #5
Yet he got more bills and amendments that he wrote passed than did Hillary. See Reply 4. merrily Jan 2016 #19
Republican hate her. They will never work with her. azmom Jan 2016 #9
Hillary won't even try. At least Bernie will give it a shot. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #12
She will compromise a lot with Republicans in order to get things done, even giving away the store Samantha Jan 2016 #16
I didn't know that. Gregorian Jan 2016 #21
She won't even try. No we can't! jfern Jan 2016 #20
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
2. The fact that Sanders is the only career politician running on our side,.....
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jan 2016

and this question even needs to be asked, is the answer in itself.

"One can argue that Bernie has fewer foes in Congress."

Not successfully they can't.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. Hillary got into politics earlier and deeper than most officeholders today.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 12:11 AM
Jan 2016

Holding office is not the be all and end all of being a politician, although she has done that and aspired to do that for a long time too.

pandr32

(11,548 posts)
10. Great point
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jan 2016

And one that needs to be made often. Sanders has a so-so record for someone who has been in Congress as long as he has and has very few fellow members of Congress (can count them on a couple of fingers) supporting him.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
13. The very fact that he has done a lot more legislation than her. More EXPERIENCE in this area.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:00 PM
Jan 2016

This has been written about, that Sanders has the most experience here of anyone running!

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
3. Well she did reach across the aisle to help pass the Iraq War Resolution and the Patriot Act
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jan 2016

I can't tell you how she will get good legislation that actually benefits the people passed, but she has shown in the past that she is willing to stand with Republicans to pass bad legislation.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. Those were Republican bills that she jumped onto. We're talking (hopefully) Democratic legislation
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jan 2016

that a Democratic President would try to get through Congress as Obama got ACA through Congress.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. IMO, Bernie would stand a much better chance than Hillary.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:30 AM
Jan 2016

While a Senator, Hillary had zero success working with Republicans to get bills she wrote passed, except for strictly ceremonial bills, such as re-naming a post office, remembering Harriet Tubman's birthday and remembering the anniversary of the American Revolution. She could not even get her two unconstitutional flag desecration bills passed. (For that matter, she could not even get Billarycare through a Democratic Congress when her husband was head of the Democratic Party.)

Since then, she has been gratuitously disrespectful to Republicans, calling them the enemy of which she is most proud and acting a certain way during the Benghazi hearings.

Contradistinctively, Bernie and McCain worked on a veterans' bill that passed. The Brookings Institute made a case study in working across the aisle. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/how-bernie-sanders-fought-for-our-veterans-119708 Bernie also managed to get a number of substantive amendments passed. The most important of his amendments may have been $11 billion in health care passed as an amendment to the ACA

See also, http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/71225/bernie-sanders-is-loud-stubborn-socialist-republicans-like-him-anyway

livetohike

(22,118 posts)
5. Where are all of his friends in Congress? Very few endorsements and if some statements are correct,
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:31 AM
Jan 2016

he is hard to work with. Like it or not, Hillary has many in Congress on her side.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
19. Yet he got more bills and amendments that he wrote passed than did Hillary. See Reply 4.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:44 AM
Jan 2016

The law has been laid down to Democratic politicians about endorsing Hillary. Some of the few who have dared to buck it have revealed that, as if the near unanimity itself and DWS's conflict of interest were not alone a huge clue.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
12. Hillary won't even try. At least Bernie will give it a shot.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:56 AM
Jan 2016

Hillary will just end up doing what Republicans want and calling it "finding common ground".

I would rather have a liberal who won't pull that crap than a "moderate" who does.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
16. She will compromise a lot with Republicans in order to get things done, even giving away the store
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:04 AM
Jan 2016

I know she once mentioned in an interview on Social Security, "Well, we could raise the retirement age." When she was asked in another interview if she would consider running with a Republican as Vice President, she paused for a moment and said, "I can think of a couple I could work with." (Paraphrasing in both quotes). When I heard that I wondered if she would consider appointing a Republican to the Supreme Court if she would consider running with one as her Vice President ....

Sam

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
21. I didn't know that.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jan 2016

And it makes sense considering many of the replies in this thread. She is willing to reach too far to compromise with the other side. That appears to be a good thing, on face value, had we not given away the entire store over the last 35 years.

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