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INdemo

(6,994 posts)
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:21 PM Jan 2016

Hillary’s New Mouthpiece McCaskill Attacks Bernie Sanders: BIG MISTAKE

With these attacks Bernie Sanders will get name recognition because.
People will ask, Who is this guy that is rising in the polls against Hillary?




I think the Hillary campaign has gone beyond NH and IA and has polled Nev (not liking what they find)

And in SC (I dont care what the media says) Bernie is gaining there too.
So Hillary knows that 3 loses in a row will put her on track for a repeat of 2008 and that would be great for humanity.

Obviously Hillary cannot run on the issues.
Would someone that is close to the Hillary Clinton campaign,please check to see if Karl Rove joined her team recently?
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Hillary’s New Mouthpiece McCaskill Attacks Bernie Sanders: BIG MISTAKE (Original Post) INdemo Jan 2016 OP
She's good for a couple points bump in the national polls Kalidurga Jan 2016 #1
The Senators right is running a negative campaign against Hillary lewebley3 Jan 2016 #17
Could you please post this again? Kalidurga Jan 2016 #20
As long as it is true lewebley3 Jan 2016 #21
I like this rabbit hole Kalidurga Jan 2016 #25
Oh my god. You are as old as I am.. pangaia Jan 2016 #46
I am a bit over 50 Kalidurga Jan 2016 #48
Opps I am 72.. SO THAT is from my 'coming of age' period. pangaia Jan 2016 #51
Cool Kalidurga Jan 2016 #57
Mine, too. senz Jan 2016 #82
The entire record was dynamite. pangaia Jan 2016 #95
Yes, I remember Surrealistic Pillow. senz Jan 2016 #97
So true. pangaia Jan 2016 #98
Oh don't I know it arikara Jan 2016 #120
LOL navarth Jan 2016 #60
Oh yeah Kalidurga Jan 2016 #99
Hehe. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #33
I think they are down to gibberish... eggplant Jan 2016 #64
Gibberish appears to be this poster's first language nxylas Jan 2016 #70
A one hit blunder dorkzilla Jan 2016 #74
If I didn't know any better LiberalLovinLug Jan 2016 #55
I've been thinking that for quite some time now, the poster is a BernieBro... Fumesucker Jan 2016 #124
Eh? blackspade Jan 2016 #71
A GOP Play: in 1992, GHWB called Bill Clinton a "Social Engineer" (Socialist towards Authoritarian). TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #106
What does that even mean? nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #111
Ok. It'll be a stretch for me this week but now I'll have to send Bernie another $25! Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #2
I just figured up our budget, its close but me too !!!!! INdemo Jan 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Jan 2016 #6
I've been giving $5 here and there for some time now, It's really adding up for him! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #9
I'm with you. Another $25 for Bernie!! nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #12
We will, too! Go Bernie! Duval Jan 2016 #32
Claire is worried about her own money. Senator Tankerbell Jan 2016 #3
15th wealthiest senator. bjobotts Jan 2016 #63
12 th richest azurnoir Jan 2016 #72
No wonder she's a Hillary defender. 840high Jan 2016 #108
That explains it passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #76
I swear, too much money wrecks people. senz Jan 2016 #87
And one of the least well liked loyalsister Jan 2016 #109
Reminds me beltanefauve Jan 2016 #121
More contributions for Sanders! Yeah! Me too, Straight to Bernie's website to contribute! Yupy Jan 2016 #4
K&R n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #10
She didn't just insult Bernie Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #7
She's insulting anyone with a brain no matter what they identify as politically. cui bono Jan 2016 #14
You win the internet for the day. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #42
=) cui bono Jan 2016 #50
And should Hillary win beltanefauve Jan 2016 #122
Absolutely Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #123
So tell me... Thenewire Jan 2016 #8
Do you have a criticism? Kalidurga Jan 2016 #24
This one makes more complete sentences. navarth Jan 2016 #80
Have you read DU? cui bono Jan 2016 #26
Be nice...s/he's new. LOL libdem4life Jan 2016 #41
Are you sure??? cui bono Jan 2016 #90
"Eeek a socialist!!" <-- Hillarians Resort to Red Baiting. Hell, who needs Republicans anymore? nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #11
So 20th century sarge43 Jan 2016 #30
He's a socialist fer gawd sake......... SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #35
In '08 she sided with McCain against Obama bjobotts Jan 2016 #59
I'm glad Bernie fully addressed this issue, in a major speech, at Georgetown Univ. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #68
Teabagger tactics. Hillary should be ashamed, but I know she's not capable of feeling that. cui bono Jan 2016 #13
Hillary just telling the truth: lewebley3 Jan 2016 #38
Hillary wasn't even speaking, so what are you talking about? cui bono Jan 2016 #49
lol 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #67
Exactly. No matter how much it doesn't make any sense or how far off from the truth it is. cui bono Jan 2016 #89
I think it's just some sort of automated thought generator that chooses from a couple different word Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #126
That's exactly what I think. cui bono Jan 2016 #127
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #15
maybe they'll quote the NY Post attack that all the Cruz fans are FBing next ... MisterP Jan 2016 #16
The concern about down ballot races is a legitimate issue in a primary contest Gothmog Jan 2016 #18
If you're worried about down-ballot races Lordquinton Jan 2016 #40
Do have any proof for this claim about DWS? Gothmog Jan 2016 #66
I think he/she is referring to the DU myth that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #86
Here's something to go on Lordquinton Jan 2016 #93
Some more Lordquinton Jan 2016 #117
I am concerned with down ballot races. Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #52
McCaskill and the others have every right to be concerned. murielm99 Jan 2016 #62
In Texas, Sanders would kill down ballot candidates Gothmog Jan 2016 #65
Nice, Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #85
Texas has three times the number of delegates as Iowa and NH combined Gothmog Jan 2016 #101
Turning a state blue Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #105
We have to agree to disagree Gothmog Jan 2016 #107
Fair enough Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #110
I live in the real world and I care about winning elections Gothmog Jan 2016 #113
And Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #116
A seat at the table and the ability to keep the GOP from ruining the country Gothmog Jan 2016 #118
A seat at the table? Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #119
In Texas... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #91
Study Reveals The True Scope Of Voter Disenfranchisement In Texas Gothmog Jan 2016 #100
For crying out loud. malokvale77 Jan 2016 #102
Voter suppression tactics work Gothmog Jan 2016 #114
Sorry Gothmog... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #115
That is so wrong that it is sad Gothmog Jan 2016 #125
She Needs To Be Primaried When She Comes Up For Re-election....nt global1 Jan 2016 #19
I think we'll be seeing a lot of that Mike__M Jan 2016 #36
Hillary's coattails have been shredded with her stunning performances, latest being libdem4life Jan 2016 #43
Are you talking about DWS? FlaGranny Jan 2016 #47
Both Of Them.....nt global1 Jan 2016 #61
this reminds me of 2008 restorefreedom Jan 2016 #22
Claire De Loon. lob1 Jan 2016 #23
I remember when she was up for election against some knuckle dragger Kalidurga Jan 2016 #27
Good one!! Thanks! Duval Jan 2016 #34
"He's a...(bring the fainting couch)...a SOCIALIST...(passes out w/o manifesting an argument)!" xocet Jan 2016 #28
Socialism is a loser in the GE redstateblues Jan 2016 #103
Let's find out. n/t xocet Jan 2016 #112
New mouthpiece? She's been pulling strings for hillary since the beginning hasn't she? nt retrowire Jan 2016 #29
Using people like Senator Love-Pats as a slimy surrogate is one of the many reasons HRC will LOSE. AzDar Jan 2016 #31
My least favorite of the conservative Democrats, super rich, very self serving and often sort of Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #37
And just gave $250 to Bernie! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #39
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #44
Hey McCaskill.... I listened to 27 seconds and could not stomach to listen any longer. pangaia Jan 2016 #45
Oops ybbor Jan 2016 #54
I rec this post. nt malokvale77 Jan 2016 #92
Thanks, mal.. pangaia Jan 2016 #96
K & R ! TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #53
By the way.. cannabis_flower Jan 2016 #56
Misoouri's DINO version of Palin?... freebrew Jan 2016 #58
Mine too, and she sucks at it. Gore1FL Jan 2016 #88
Well comrades lets take out our hammer and sickle Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #69
Beautiful response. senz Jan 2016 #79
Do we need any more evidence that jomin41 Jan 2016 #73
"The media is giving Bernie a PASS right now?" senz Jan 2016 #75
McCaskill is not my favorite Stimoyo Jan 2016 #81
Agreed. senz Jan 2016 #83
History repeats itself EmperorHasNoClothes Jan 2016 #77
That worn out, worthless Dino needs to be replaced! Hulk Jan 2016 #78
"Obviously Hillary cannot run on the issues" - EXACTLY. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #84
I think I'll join you in that. malokvale77 Jan 2016 #94
Someone please tell the hillary camp oldandhappy Jan 2016 #104

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
25. I like this rabbit hole
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jan 2016

does it lead to potions where one makes you bigger and one makes you smaller and one doesn't do anything at all?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
48. I am a bit over 50
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:48 PM
Jan 2016

I listen to music from most eras I think. I like pan flutes and those go waaaaaaaaaaaaay back.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
82. Mine, too.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jan 2016

In a presentation for a class I was taking with 20-somethings about 15 years ago, I illustrated some points with quotes from Alice in Wonderland and included a homemade poster with related visuals. In the lower right hand corner I printed the phrase, "Feed your head."

People liked the poster, but no one, not one person, remarked on that bit. I realized none of them could remember that stunning song -- and felt a little sorry for 'em.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
95. The entire record was dynamite.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jan 2016

-yes, RECORD.. not viy-null !

In fact, I have it right here next to me.. PINK, remember?

RCA # AYL1-3738

SURREALISTIC PILLOW -- 2 minutes and twenty-seven seconds ..





 

senz

(11,945 posts)
97. Yes, I remember Surrealistic Pillow.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jan 2016

One of the things I'm most grateful for is having been young and aware in the Sixties, because I would not have missed that amazing -- still unbelievable -- time for anything. If I ever feel jaded about "people," all I have to do is remember the mind-expanding openness, gentleness, and love that permeated everyone and everything in that specific subculture. But it didn't last long, just a few sweet years.

Still, what a memory.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
98. So true.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 07:58 PM
Jan 2016

Everyone, or maybe most, feel they came of age in the best period. And of course I do as well. I would not have traded it for anything. it went a long way into bring out in me who I am..

It was not an easy time. Three horrendous assassinations, for starters.

But the creativity was just astounding.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
120. Oh don't I know it
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jan 2016

2 years ago I took a 4 month class with 10 millennial girls... I was 58. I grew up on a farm with no running water or electricity my music was an Elvis Lp played on a battery operated turntable. I still don't have a smart phone because I don't want to walk around poking at a tiny keyboard.
They were nice kids but I still felt like a stranger in a strange land. Until then I had no idea how very large a generation gap can be.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
99. Oh yeah
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jan 2016

But, seriously I don't know what this poster is saying. I think it is in, English. I can't be sure of that. I haven't heard word salad like that since Palin's last boozy endorsement of Trump.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
64. I think they are down to gibberish...
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jan 2016

...because they are one hide away from the time-out box.

Hard to alert on gibberish.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
55. If I didn't know any better
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jan 2016

I'd think you were a secret Bernie supporter for all your incomprehensible one line mutterings in so many threads. Other Hillary supporters must dread whenever you enter a thread if you portend to represent them.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
71. Eh?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jan 2016

Right fire hydrant running senator. The yellow stop signs will save Hillary negative campaign.

There! Fixed so that others can comprehend!

TheBlackAdder

(28,186 posts)
106. A GOP Play: in 1992, GHWB called Bill Clinton a "Social Engineer" (Socialist towards Authoritarian).
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jan 2016

.


Right-wing author, F. A. Hayek, wrote a book called "The Road to Serfdom." It came down hard on "Social Engineers" that try to mould the government in a manner they see fit, where the ultimate result is an authoritarian state.


Here's an NYT article professing that Bill Clinton was called this by GHWB's campaign:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/18/us/the-1992-campaign-the-republicans-bush-paints-clinton-as-social-engineer.html



With its disparaging references to Oxford, the 1960's and Mr. Clinton's "economic elite," and its allusions to socialism, the 41-minute speech was redolent with the blue-collar appeals that helped Ronald Reagan lure Democrats to his fold in 1980 and 1984.

Mr. Bush made no attempt today to explain or minimize the economy's present problems. Instead, he argued that the real danger facing the nation is that voters will "grasp change blindly, without considering seriously where these changes will lead us or what they mean in our daily lives."

"At a decisive moment in history comes your choice about who should lead the American economy: the government planner or the entrepreneur, the risk-taker," the President said. "This is the most fundamental disagreement between us: whether the driving engine of growth is government interventionism or entrepreneurial capitalism." Risk-Taker Turned Politician




This really sounds familiar.


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Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
2. Ok. It'll be a stretch for me this week but now I'll have to send Bernie another $25!
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:59 PM - Edit history (1)





INdemo

(6,994 posts)
5. I just figured up our budget, its close but me too !!!!!
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jan 2016

Clara,Clara Clara
My Grammpa had this saying and it would fit in here .....

Well Clara and Hillary,I think you just shit in your nest !!!

Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #2)

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
72. 12 th richest
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jan 2016

The Center for Responsive Politics ranks McCaskill as the 12th-richest of 100 senators, with a net worth between $15.6 million and $27.5 million.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
87. I swear, too much money wrecks people.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jan 2016

Too little, if it doesn't kill us, makes us desperate and too much much makes us coarse.

If we could adopt Bernie's plans, we'd have far fewer, if any, extremely poor people and fewer obscenely rich ones. We'd all be better off, too.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
109. And one of the least well liked
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jan 2016

Everytime she's up for re-election, many progressives dread voting for her again.

beltanefauve

(1,784 posts)
121. Reminds me
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jan 2016

of having to vote for Feinstein in my state.

Ranking 12th richest senator also puts her up there with Feinstein.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
7. She didn't just insult Bernie
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jan 2016

...she insulted me too. I, like Bernie, am a Democratic Socialist. Senator McCaskill should educate herself on the differences between Democratic Socialism and Socialism.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
14. She's insulting anyone with a brain no matter what they identify as politically.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jan 2016

Love Pap's head shake before the clip runs. Exactly how I feel.

.

beltanefauve

(1,784 posts)
122. And should Hillary win
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jan 2016

the nomination, she has alienated a lot of people who will be needed to help Hill win the general.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
24. Do you have a criticism?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jan 2016

Or are you just afraid to take on the establishment and go for real changes?

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
26. Have you read DU?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jan 2016


No, he is not free of criticism. However, when smearmongering teabagger tactics are used they will be called out and slammed.

Do you support and agree with McCaskill?

.
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
11. "Eeek a socialist!!" <-- Hillarians Resort to Red Baiting. Hell, who needs Republicans anymore? nt
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:33 PM
Jan 2016

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
30. So 20th century
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jan 2016

The USSR crashed and burned a quarter century ago. Give it up, Hills.

Plus, a lot of us from that time remember what was done to people in the name of 'protecting us from the Red Menace'. It was wrong then; it's worse today.

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
59. In '08 she sided with McCain against Obama
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jan 2016

Saying he was too inexperienced to be president. That it takes someone with hers or McCain's experience to be president. I'll vote for her because she's a democrat but I support Bernie...a man of the people. FDR was also a Democratic Socialist. Medicare, ,SS, Medicaid, our national highway system are all democratic socilist programs. Democratic Socialism is the only form of government which both ensures our freedom and our survival. Without a government of the people there would be no entity large enough to keep these corporations from doing whatever they wanted to do. We choose what we will all come together to use to maintain our society and nationalize it. Democratic Socialism has been practiced here in America since it was founded.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
68. I'm glad Bernie fully addressed this issue, in a major speech, at Georgetown Univ.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:37 PM
Jan 2016

McCaskill is just displaying her willful ignorance with her Red-baiting, and I don't think
many people will be swayed by it, if any.

She's a piece of work, but not in a good way.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
13. Teabagger tactics. Hillary should be ashamed, but I know she's not capable of feeling that.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jan 2016

Smearmongering with a teabagger idea is so low. And blaming the MSM. I think I might have heard her say "Lamestream Media", anyone else hear that?

Time to get rid of that DINO.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
67. lol
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jan 2016

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cui bono

(19,926 posts)
89. Exactly. No matter how much it doesn't make any sense or how far off from the truth it is.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jan 2016

It's so scary to see people on a political message board be blind followers and idol worshippers. Of course some people are operatives and some might even be bots based on the automated types of responses that have nothing to do with what they are responding to.

So glad Sanders is running...



.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
126. I think it's just some sort of automated thought generator that chooses from a couple different word
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:15 PM
Jan 2016

banks. Hillary+truth+speaking+is.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
127. That's exactly what I think.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jan 2016

And I think the code writing was outsourced to China based on the broken English.

Turns out though, even AI can get a timeout. 7 hides! So thankful, they won't be back for 2 months! Unless the code wasn't written to keep trying to post after that long.

Even though the posts were so stupid it was like an annoying gnat you just couldn't get rid of. And I really hate to see someone smear and slander Thom Hartmann and Bernie constantly with blatant lies.

.

Gothmog

(145,147 posts)
18. The concern about down ballot races is a legitimate issue in a primary contest
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jan 2016

If you are running to the nominee of a political party, you have to care about down ballot races. Sanders is not only not raising funds for the Democratic party, he may have an adverse effect on down ballot races http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccaskill-wants-bernie-sanders-is-liability-in-2016

In a revealing report from the New York Times Tuesday, Clinton supporters including Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) piled on in warning that Bernie Sanders could be an electoral liability for the party in 2016 if he managed to secure the nomination.

“The Republicans won’t touch him because they can’t wait to run an ad with a hammer and sickle,” McCaskill told the New York Times.

Other Democrats, including Gov. Jack Markell of Delaware, told the New York Times that that Sanders could endanger Democrats running in more purple states, like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where Democrats are hanging their aspirations to take back the Senate in 2016.

Recent polls have shown Sanders gaining momentum in early states. A CNN poll Tuesday showed him leading Clinton by 27 points in New Hampshire and Des Moines Register poll found him closing the gap in Iowa.

Wednesday, the criticism continued as McCaskill stood by her concerns about Sanders. In an interview with NBC, McCaskill said it was "absolutely impossible" for him to win in her home state of Missouri. She also warned that Sanders was untested. While Republicans have targeted Hillary Clinton in attacks since they hit the campaign trail, Sanders has so far been left unscathed.

What is wrong with being concerned about down ballot races?

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
40. If you're worried about down-ballot races
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jan 2016

then consider that DWS has actively campaigned for Republicans, against Democratic contenders, she needs to go before that argument has any traction.

Bernie is getting young people to the polls, which is the first step to electing anybody, Hillary and the DNC are trying to hide that an election is even going on. What are they even doing with all that cash they are raising?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
86. I think he/she is referring to the DU myth that ...
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jan 2016

she endorsed an incumbent republican candidate ... actually two brothers, when she was in the House (2008?), with whom she had developed a working relationship.

The fact is, she just did not endorse or campaign for the republican candidates ... but she didn't work for the Democratic candidate (that had no shot of winning) either.

So in DU interpretation, NOT campaigning for the Democrat equals "actively campaign" for the republican.

 

Lage Nom Ai

(74 posts)
52. I am concerned with down ballot races.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jan 2016

I guess the party should make sure those candidates share the same vision as the top of the ticket.

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
62. McCaskill and the others have every right to be concerned.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jan 2016

But that makes her a mouthpiece, dontcha know. Anyone who expresses the tiniest bit of doubt, or the smallest criticism of Bernie is under the bus.

 

Lage Nom Ai

(74 posts)
85. Nice,
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jan 2016

a conservative article tearing apart a liberal. Should the Democratic party move farther right in your opinion?

Gothmog

(145,147 posts)
101. Texas has three times the number of delegates as Iowa and NH combined
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:10 PM
Jan 2016

A large number of Texans are working to turn Texas blue and we do not want to see our hard work undone

 

Lage Nom Ai

(74 posts)
105. Turning a state blue
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jan 2016

means nothing if you have to give up your Liberal principals and become Republican-Lite, sorry.

Gothmog

(145,147 posts)
107. We have to agree to disagree
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jan 2016

There are a large number of good Democrats working to turn Texas blue

 

Lage Nom Ai

(74 posts)
110. Fair enough
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jan 2016

But even on this post we have to disagree. A good Democrat stands by their principals and refuses to move farther right, even at a cost of votes. If they don't the Democratic party just becomes the moderate wing of the Republican party, IMO. Good luck to you and your Candidate.

Gothmog

(145,147 posts)
113. I live in the real world and I care about winning elections
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 01:50 AM
Jan 2016

If you do not win, then you have no power at all.

Gothmog

(145,147 posts)
118. A seat at the table and the ability to keep the GOP from ruining the country
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:52 AM
Jan 2016

There are a large number of good Democrats living in red states who are working hard to change things. It is hard work but I live in the real world

 

Lage Nom Ai

(74 posts)
119. A seat at the table?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:11 AM
Jan 2016

If you move farther to the right you are not changing a state but rather changing your party. We have moved more than enough. It is time for the right to move towards us. We need to ask ourselves what do we give up this time to have them vote democrat? Eventually we will have nothing left to give and we will be republican.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
91. In Texas...
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jan 2016

candidates do a good job of that on their own. 2014 was a disaster.

Maybe it has more to do with being Republican lite.

Try again.

Gothmog

(145,147 posts)
100. Study Reveals The True Scope Of Voter Disenfranchisement In Texas
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jan 2016

Texas' issues in 2014 was largely due to the Texas voter id/voter suppression law The sole and only purpose for voter id laws is to suppress the vote and a new study out shows that these laws do suppress the vote. One Congressional seat went to the GOP due to the Texas voter id law according to this study http://www.texastribune.org/2015/08/06/study-law-discouraged-more-those-without-voter-id/

Texas’ strict voter identification requirements kept many would-be voters in a Hispanic-majority congressional district from going to the polls last November — including many who had proper IDs — a new survey shows.

And the state's voter ID law – coupled with lackluster voter education efforts – might have shaped the outcome of a congressional race, the research suggests.

Released on Thursday, the 50th anniversary of the federal Voting Rights Act, the joint Rice University and University of Houston study found that 13 percent of those registered in the 23rd Congressional District and did not vote stayed home, at least partly, because they thought they lacked proper ID under a state law considered the strictest in the nation. And nearly 6 percent did not vote primarily because of the requirements.

But most of those discouraged Texans had the proper documents to vote, says the study, which came one day after a federal appeals court ruled that the four-year-old Texas law has a “discriminatory effect” on Hispanics and African-Americans....

Researchers focused on CD-23 largely because of its demographics and the neck-in-neck congressional race it held. CD-23 is seen as the state's only U.S. House district that's competitive between Republicans and Democrats. Roughly two-thirds of the voting age population is Hispanic.

Just 118,000 voters cast ballots in the race that saw U.S. Rep. Will Hurd, R-San Antonio, edge incumbent Pete Gallego, a Democrat from Alpine. The difference was about 2,400 votes.

Of those who said the state ID law discouraged them from voting, four to five times more said they would have voted for Gallego.

“While the results of this survey do not allow us to conclude that Gallego would have been re-elected in the absence of the voter photo ID law, they do indicate that the law did have a disproportionate impact on his supporters, and therefore may have possibly cost him the election,” the study said
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The Rice/Baker institute did a good job here. Voter id laws depress voter turnout and it appears that Pete Gallego is not in Congress now due to this law.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
102. For crying out loud.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jan 2016

Explain the decades before voter ID.

It's the poor candidates that The Party has put forth ever since the Koch funded DLC.

The Party didn't even bother to question Ann Richards (the most popular governor in Texas modern history) loss to dipshit W.

I thought you were smarter than this.

Gothmog

(145,147 posts)
114. Voter suppression tactics work
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 01:52 AM
Jan 2016


Such chart is consistent with the real results of Texas when you compared 2010 to 2014



Voter id laws depress voter turnout according to the facts

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
115. Sorry Gothmog...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 02:08 AM
Jan 2016

this is dishonest. Voter suppression would not have happened here if the Democratic Party under the DLC had not abandoned us decades ago.

Gothmog

(145,147 posts)
125. That is so wrong that it is sad
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:01 PM
Jan 2016

We have voter id because Nader cost Gore the 2000 election and allowed W to appoint two SCOTUS justices who were more conservative than Rehnquist or O'Connor. These appointments are the why we have a gutted voting rights act and Citizens United.

In Texas we fought the voter id law and luckily the DOJ joined the lawsuit and help get a ruling on that law that is under appeal.

If you apply the math of the Rice University/Baker Institute study to the entire state, Wendy Davis would have been very close. Texas will turn blue but it will take a great deal of hard work

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
36. I think we'll be seeing a lot of that
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016

from now through 2018 and beyond.
There's a long list of premature endorsers who may have some explaining to do.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
43. Hillary's coattails have been shredded with her stunning performances, latest being
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jan 2016

say, what? Single Payer?

FlaGranny

(8,361 posts)
47. Are you talking about DWS?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jan 2016

If so, I got an e-mail from her this morning asking for a donation and saying that for the first time ever, she is being primaried by TWO different people.

Edit: Or, sorry, we're talking about McCaskill.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
22. this reminds me of 2008
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:00 PM
Jan 2016

"as far as i know, he [obama] is christian."

the smears failed big time then and they will fail big time now.

and i agree, no way they don't have internals yet in nv or sc...its gonna be a bernie landslide and they know its comin...


Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
27. I remember when she was up for election against some knuckle dragger
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jan 2016

And DUers from Missouri were having a real bad time with the idea of having to vote for her.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
28. "He's a...(bring the fainting couch)...a SOCIALIST...(passes out w/o manifesting an argument)!"
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:06 PM
Jan 2016

Wow, she deserves derision for such a fallacious attack.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
103. Socialism is a loser in the GE
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:39 PM
Jan 2016

Sorry. It might not be fair but it's a toxic word in middle America. The Repugs would destroy Bernie.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
31. Using people like Senator Love-Pats as a slimy surrogate is one of the many reasons HRC will LOSE.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jan 2016

Just like '08...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
37. My least favorite of the conservative Democrats, super rich, very self serving and often sort of
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jan 2016

mean. Don't like her politics, don't like her.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
45. Hey McCaskill.... I listened to 27 seconds and could not stomach to listen any longer.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:44 PM
Jan 2016

Go soak your head.

I was going to say FUCK YOU McCaskill, you snot dripping little piece of shit..

But I won't..

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
56. By the way..
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary was in Texas yesterday which makes me think she's worried about Texas. I have seen barely any Hillary signs or bumper stickers but plenty of Bernie stickers in Houston.

Gore1FL

(21,128 posts)
88. Mine too, and she sucks at it.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jan 2016

She'd be a republican if she lived in New England. I wish she did.

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
69. Well comrades lets take out our hammer and sickle
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jan 2016

$5 donation towards Sen. Sanders coming his way

Thanks Claire McCaskill

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
79. Beautiful response.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jan 2016

If we send money to Bernie every time someone attacks him from here on out, we just might take him to victory!

jomin41

(559 posts)
73. Do we need any more evidence that
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:53 PM
Jan 2016

this election is about the 99% and the 1%? Another "Sawbuck for Sanders" from me on the way!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
75. "The media is giving Bernie a PASS right now?"
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jan 2016

Sure sounds like she's begging the media to attack Bernie as "a socialist." She can't even say "democratic socialist."

Such dirt from people who call themselves Democrats.

We certainly are a big tent -- on all kinds of levels.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
78. That worn out, worthless Dino needs to be replaced!
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jan 2016

I realize we barely missed having a bat shit crazy repuKKKe elected in her place, but can't Missouri come up with anybody better than this old battle ax?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
84. "Obviously Hillary cannot run on the issues" - EXACTLY.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jan 2016

I'm just gonna say that, from now on. Because that response pretty much fits every damn HRC supporter's thread that comes up in GD.

Thank you.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
104. Someone please tell the hillary camp
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jan 2016

that some of her supporters are turned off by the increasing negativity. Yes, I am speaking for myself! Go Bernie!

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