Q: Does the Rove ad help Clinton's false electability closing argument?

[Skwmom]

Last edited Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Wow, right when people are really starting to doubt her electability - Rove rides to the rescue. You Clinton supporters (and others) should send him a big thank you card.

Edit: Amazing how people can't answer a yes or no question. Well, considering the answer YES doesn't fit their narrative I guess it isn't so amazing.

It also benefits Clinton in other ways ....

Another post referred to a 10k ad buy. 10k...

[earthside]

1. Let's see how much Rove actually spends.

This all sounds to me like Rovian misdirection and or ... incompetence.

Rove's track record since 2004 hasn't been very good.

[NorthCarolina]

2. There's not a candidate on the GOP side that can beat Bernie. Hell, their frontrunner

is double digits down in the polls from Bernie....although neck-and-neck with Hillary. Common sense explains Rove's motives.

[randys1]

3. But political experts, basically ALL of them say the numbers now are meaningless

That until a nominee is chosen and is then subjected to the onslaught of negative ads, you cant possibly conclude this.

I dont know of a single political pundit, pollster who says otherwise

Do you?

You know, the people who do this for a living.

[Punkingal]

4. The people who do this for a living were very slow to notice Bernie's impact.

I'm not sure they understand this election, including Rove.

[Skwmom]

5. I think you can get pretty much any poll result you want.

I don't need a poll to tell me that Bernie will clean the floor with any Republican. I talk to people and I look at what is going on.

He is an HONEST, decent, cannot be bought politician fighting against a corruption system for average Americans.

Every so often truth and decency do trump all. (Bernie is the only one who can trump, Trump).

[randys1]

6. Oh for cryin out loud. If that was true there would be no teaparty, no obstructionist GOP

trying to destroy America because a Black man is in charge.

[Gothmog]

7. Clinton Camp: GOP Attacks On Hillary Show They'd Rather Face Bernie In Fall

I agree that Karl Rove wants to run against the weakest possible candidate who he thinks is Sanders http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-karl-rove-attack

The Hillary Clinton campaign on Tuesday said that recent attacks from conservatives show that Republicans are hoping Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) will win the Democratic nomination because they believe he would be easier to beat in the general election.

In a Tuesday evening statement, the Clinton campaign's communications director, Jennifer Palmieri, mentioned an ad from the Rove-aligned super PAC American Crossroads, which accused Clinton of being in Wall Street's pocket. Palmieri said the ad suggests that Republicans want to face Sanders in the general election.

"While Senator Sanders tries to make a case on electability based on meaningless polls, Republicans and their super PACs have made clear the candidate they’re actually afraid to face. The Sanders argument falls apart when the GOP spokesman is trying to help him and the Republicans run ads trying to stop Hillary Clinton in the primary," she said in the statement.

Clearly Karl Rove wants the weaker candidate to be the nominee

[Skwmom]

8. You didn't answer the question directly but by your post I will consider it a Yes which begs the

question why would Rove do that - help Clinton with her closing argument.

[Gothmog]

9. You do not know Karl Rove very well

Remember that Rove funded Nader in 2000 to sabotage Al Gore. Karl Rove knows how to steal elections and Rove knows that Sander is the easier candidate

[Skwmom]

10. Again, you didn't answer the question. Not surprised because the answer doesn't support the Clinton

narrative.

[Gothmog]

11. The fact that you do not like my answer does not mean that I did not answer the question

Sanders is by far the weakest possible candidate for the GOP to face in November which is why Karl Rove is running attack ads in Iowa against Hillary Clinton

[Skwmom]

12. Still not answering the direct question. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Rove is playing eight dimensional chess... We mere mortals can't see what he is up to.

[Skwmom]

14. Oh, one move can be used for multiple strategies and multiple benefits.

I can think of multiple benefits and strategies for the Republican actions. But, I wouldn't post them on this message board.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I am a mere mortal so I don't get it.

A cigar is never just a cigar.



Respectfully,
DSB

[Skwmom]

16. I don't think of Rove as an evil genius. He's evil but not a genius. You don't have to be a genius

to be good a manipulation. I've often thought it must take another part of the brain.

[Gothmog]

17. The media is noticing that the GOP and Rove are supporting Sanders

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Cheri Jacobus- "Bernie Sanders was great last night."

EOM

[Gothmog]

18. Anti-Sanders attack ad isn’t quite what it seems to be

Another republican is running an ad designed to help Sanders in the primary process. This ad uses the same trick that Claire McCaskill used in 2012 to select Todd Akin as her opponent because Akin would be the weakest possible general election candidate http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/anti-sanders-attack-ad-isnt-quite-what-it-seems-be

Republicans have made no secret of the fact that they’d prefer to run against Bernie Sanders in the general election. Whether or not their assumptions are correct is a separate question, but GOP officials, convinced that the senator would be easy to defeat, have gone out of their way to help Sanders in the Democratic race.....

At first blush, the move may seem encouraging to Sanders supporters. After all, if Republicans have gone from defending Sanders to attacking him, maybe it means GOP insiders are getting scared of the Vermont independent?

It’s a nice idea, but that’s not what’s going on here. In fact, far from an attack ad, this commercial, backed by a prominent Republican mega-donor, is the latest evidence of the GOP trying to help Sanders, not hurt him.

Indeed, in this case, it’s hardly even subtle. This commercial touts Sanders’ support for tuition-free college, single-payer health care, and higher taxes on the “super-rich.” It concludes that the senator is “too liberal,” which isn’t much of an insult in an ad directed towards liberal voters in Iowa.

In other words, we’re talking about a Republican mega-donor investing in a faux attack ad to help Sanders win because he sees Sanders as easy to beat in November.

It’s the mirror image of the tactic Sen. Claire McCaskill (D) used in the 2012 U.S. Senate race in Missouri, when she invested in ads intended to boost then-Rep. Todd Akin (R) in his primary race, with commercials touting his far-right positions and calling him “too conservative.” The point was to make Akin look better in the eyes of Missouri Republicans so he’d win the primary, making it easier for the incumbent Democrat to defeat him on Election Day.

This ad is just another example of the GOP trying to help Sanders become the nominee because the GOP knows that Sanders is the weaker candidate.

[demwing]

19. anyone got a link?

have not seen this gem