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Cicada

(4,533 posts)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 10:56 AM Sep 2012

Gallup massively overestimated Repub vote in 2010

In their final poll before Nov 2010 election Gallup predicted Repubs would get 55% of congressional votes, Dems 40%. The actual results 51.4% repub vs 44.8% dem, difference 6.6%. Gallup missed the actual result worse than any other pollster. Second worst? Fox predicting R+13, third worst Rasmussen predicting R+12. Most polls were within a point or two of correct.

See this for how each polling firm did in 2010

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/03/how-did-the-polls-do_n_778216.html

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Gallup massively overestimated Repub vote in 2010 (Original Post) Cicada Sep 2012 OP
Polls Don't Matter Skee Sep 2012 #1
So not surprising. Jennicut Sep 2012 #2
In 2010 Fox polls used subsidiary of Rasmussen for polls Cicada Sep 2012 #8
They Were Embarrassingly Inaccurate DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #3
Gallup said their likely voter model failed Cicada Sep 2012 #6
I think it was Chris Hayes abolugi Sep 2012 #4
it's the vote that counts buzzman Sep 2012 #5
Hard to believe that a 51-45 result could bring so much damage--just think if it had been a 15-pt WI_DEM Sep 2012 #7
Generally, anything more than 3 points, in either way, is going to do some major damage... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #10
Polls rarely ask about all candidates on the ballot Denver Dave Sep 2012 #9
Whatever Gallup predicted Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2012 #11

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
8. In 2010 Fox polls used subsidiary of Rasmussen for polls
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:14 PM
Sep 2012

So it really was two firms really way way off - Gallup and Rasmussen

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
6. Gallup said their likely voter model failed
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:11 PM
Sep 2012

They said they were going to review the error in the months following the election

abolugi

(417 posts)
4. I think it was Chris Hayes
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 01:05 PM
Sep 2012

that said the repubs are "bitterly clinging" to their Gallup and Rasmussen polls.



They are the only polls 2 showing Romney even close to President Obama. Its the only ones they dare mention.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
7. Hard to believe that a 51-45 result could bring so much damage--just think if it had been a 15-pt
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:12 PM
Sep 2012

margin!! OMG!!

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
10. Generally, anything more than 3 points, in either way, is going to do some major damage...
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:34 PM
Sep 2012

In '94, the overall vote was pretty much the same, 51-45 (rounded). When the Democrats regained control of the House in 2006, they won the popular vote 52-44.

So, Gallup's numbers weren't even right in terms of historic context. Had they been right, as you said, it would have been so much more damaging. The Democrats would've lost nearly every seat with numbers like that.

Denver Dave

(167 posts)
9. Polls rarely ask about all candidates on the ballot
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:26 PM
Sep 2012

Of the 3 or 4 telephone polls that I received, the poll never asked about any other specific candidates other than Romney and Obama.

There are two other candidates on the ballot in over 2/3 of the states, enough states to conceivably (but unlikely) win the Electoral College and have qualified and accepted federal matching presidential campaign funds that we have paid for. However, after the polls never mention the other candidates, the private Commission of Presidential Debates set's the bar to be included in the debates at polling 15% (up from 5% when Ross Perot slipped in).

The other candidates have significant support, especially considering they are rarely mentioned in polls or the mainstream media. These candidates will not win the election and probably not be spoilers, since they cancel each other out. However, the 2 matching funds candidates are important to the debates because they will talk about issues that have will not be heard otherwise.

10 Huge Issues Being Ignored in the Presidential Campaigns:
http://www.nationofchange.org/ten-huge-issues-being-ignored-presidential-campaign-1348067863

I hope that you will help your issues be included in the debates by signing this petition, posting the link to your facebook page and asking your friends to ask their friends to do the same:

http://www.change.org/petitions/open-up-the-2012-presidential-debates

If we want a "seat at the table" we'll have to speak up.

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