The Clinton campaign not only underestimated Bernie, they overestimated her

[cali]

appeal to primary voters- and remember there are a lot of independents who vote in the primary. I can sort of understand the former (though her campaign manager is a Vermonter and former chair of the Vermont Democratic Party), but I can't fathom that they weren't aware of the latter.

[Zen Democrat]

1. Hillary is making the same mistakes she made in 2008. What gives?

She had our entire family in early 2008, but lost us when both Clintons got nasty in South Carolina. Is history repeating itself? She's taking the quick tour to defeat if she keeps up the "electability" issue. Same as 2008. Just who was electable that year? The person Bill and Hillary said could NEVER win.

I'm smelling Third-Way here, and I don't like it. I'm sickened by the thought of a "Blanche Lincoln" Democrat in the White House.

[Autumn]

2. All of the democrats I know are livid over her remarks on Bernie's Medicare for all.

[uponit7771]

3. Sanders is still poling below 30% of a good portion of the Obama coalition and HRC is playing...

.... delegates not popularity... she did that in 2008.

After 6 months Sanders numbers on a good portion of the Obama coalition are dismal

[morningfog]

6. He doesn't need to recreate the Obama coalition. Coalitions are fluid.

He is doing fine. Of course he could be doing better, but so could Hillary.

After Iowa and NH, I predict the national polling will close to within single digits.

[morningfog]

4. It's her own hubris and sense of entitlement that trickles down through her organization.

They didn't plan past Iowa and NH, it seems. They expected her to win Iowa, NH to be a close finish, perhaps a win, and would be the end of the insurgent Sanders' challenge. She would take NV and SC, game over.

She didn't staff the SUper TUesday states and didn't put the effort in in Iowa until just recently. She blew through her money and tracked right too early. She thought she could start the general election, but it's biting her in the ass.

Now, she is backed into a corner. She needs big wins early, but it doesn't look like she will get one until SC, at the earliest. And SC could narrow. Now, she has to go negative, which she does so poorly that she ends up covered in mud and in a negative feedback loop.

She is such a poor campaigner and seems to be unable to effectively run a large organization. Not presidential.

[earthside]

5. A quarter of a century of Hillary.

There isn't anything new about the Clinton ambition ... it's been 24 years since Gennifer Flowers and the Bill Clinton 2nd place finish in New Hampshire that he claimed made him "the comeback kid".

Yes, it has been that long since despite her assertion, Hillary did indeed behave like Tammy Wynette and 'stand by (her) man'.

I think you are correct in your assessment that "they overestimated her appeal to primary voters."

She just isn't very interesting anymore; she just isn't an innovative leader; and even the feminism part of her appeal is now very long-in-the-tooth and has been eclipsed by newer, bolder, and more dynamic 'self-made' women like Elizabeth Warren.

[Maedhros]

7. The Clinton campaign is based upon media and message control, not on ideas.[n/t]

[jeff47]

8. For the latter, you don't run for president twice unless you believe you are utterly fantastic. (nt)