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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 02:48 PM Jan 2016

Hillary's Campaign Is Imploding. And It's LEAKING like a Sieve.

Any time a campaign starts to leak this badly, you know it's in trouble. Yesterday it was reported that a source "close to the situation" was relaying that Bill is worried about the campaign. Now, today, it's multiple sources and Vanity Fair is covering it.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/01/bill-clinton-hillary-campaign-strategy

Even Bill Clinton Is Freaking Out About Hillary’s Stumbling Campaign

The Comeback Kid can’t be kept on the sidelines for long. After finally stepping out of the shadows earlier this month to begin stumping for his wife, Bill Clinton is reportedly seizing a larger role in advising Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign as he grows increasingly worried that she isn’t focusing enough on the dozens of primary states that vote in March.

News of Bill’s involvement in Clinton’s camp reflects a very real concern: what once seemed an easy path to victory for the former secretary of state has now turned treacherous with the soaring popularity of Bernie Sanders, whose poll numbers in the early-voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire threaten to stunt her momentum. According to Politico, Bill has been urging the campaign to begin diverting resources outside Iowa and New Hampshire, reportedly calling her campaign manager, Robert Mook, “almost daily” to persuade him to send more staff to the states voting in March. The resistance, it seems, comes from Hillary’s team’s overwhelming desire to not repeat the mistakes of 2008, when an unknown post-racial upstart came out of nowhere to win Iowa, pushing her to a shocking third place.

But several sources tell Politico they are convinced, along with Bill, that this is the wrong way to play the primary game.
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Hillary's Campaign Is Imploding. And It's LEAKING like a Sieve. (Original Post) berni_mccoy Jan 2016 OP
Kick !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #1
yawn using unamed sources to support your claims. Is this the National Enquirer lol nt msongs Jan 2016 #2
Vanity Fair SoCalMusicLover Jan 2016 #5
vanity fair is an awesome magazine on political issues. Don't worry. roguevalley Jan 2016 #47
The unnamed Watergate source, deep throat, wasn't revealed for 33 years Major Nikon Jan 2016 #11
VF does damn well zentrum Jan 2016 #24
i didn't know that. interesting factoid. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #37
Unnamed sources such as Deep Throat? SusanaMontana41 Jan 2016 #43
On The Bright Side SoCalMusicLover Jan 2016 #3
Wouldn't it be a hoot if she did finish 3rd? pangaia Jan 2016 #39
Yes it would. All it would take is for Iowans to warm up to O'Malley's down home charm... Ned_Devine Jan 2016 #48
K.R 99Forever Jan 2016 #4
Who wants a First Bubba in the White house, anyway? libdem4life Jan 2016 #6
It would be President Clinton, and I do. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #12
That's then a bit redundant...President Clinton and President Clinton. libdem4life Jan 2016 #13
It's the way it is. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #17
Well, I'm not too concerned about the likelihood of having to deal with that. libdem4life Jan 2016 #18
lol. I had no idea we were in disagreement. At all. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #19
"The likelyhood" of that event...one President and one Ex-President in the White House...was what I libdem4life Jan 2016 #20
Love it. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #21
It would be President Clinton, and I do. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #58
! merrily Jan 2016 #25
Hell of a lot better than Melania Trump tinrobot Jan 2016 #45
I'll give you that one...to be sure. libdem4life Jan 2016 #46
Or he is pushing for a Comeback argument making it appear worse than it is. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #7
hyperbole cali Jan 2016 #8
I sure hope Dems aren't saddled with this team leading the charge in Nov Dems to Win Jan 2016 #9
We're just two weeks away from the anniversary of her 2008 campaign manager quitting Jarqui Jan 2016 #10
Not a fan of HRC but really. Myrina Jan 2016 #14
Right, it's the staff's fault n/t Oilwellian Jan 2016 #15
...a source "close to the situation" workinclasszero Jan 2016 #16
Cool Conspiracy Theory. libdem4life Jan 2016 #27
Fine... workinclasszero Jan 2016 #30
You make my point...there Isn't One...or a Conspiracy. libdem4life Jan 2016 #38
And blow their cover? Not on your life! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #51
It's Vanity Fair CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #35
Of course you know that some people want more than "unnamed sources" d_legendary1 Jan 2016 #40
De ja vu all over again. Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #22
Hillary don't go away angry fbc Jan 2016 #23
far, far, far away. like why don't you and Bill retire to Siberia so we never have to hear your kath Jan 2016 #49
For Hillary and President Bubba Indepatriot Jan 2016 #26
I am skeptical. Who is really in charge of a campaign, the candidate or the campaign manager? merrily Jan 2016 #28
I read an article a few weeks back that said she had problems controlling her staff in 2008. draa Jan 2016 #33
From this article, it doesn't sound like it's the Campaign Manager. PADemD Jan 2016 #41
K+R draa Jan 2016 #29
Sweet azmom Jan 2016 #31
Wanna talk "momentum"?.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #32
Sweet. And it's the truth. draa Jan 2016 #34
K & R AzDar Jan 2016 #36
It's Hillary.. She lacks authenticity.... raindaddy Jan 2016 #42
Yip Yip Yippee! abakan Jan 2016 #44
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #50
Not so sure about that senz Jan 2016 #55
multiple sources dlwickham Jan 2016 #52
Remember when we all said we weren't ready for Bill Clinton's 3rd term? tularetom Jan 2016 #53
And the noise an implosion makes must be Helen Borg Jan 2016 #54
Bill, your Third Way, pander to the wealthy and Wall Street no longer plays. emsimon33 Jan 2016 #56
Found my large fork, finally. Old Crow Jan 2016 #57
NICE! glinda Jan 2016 #60
I think that should have said.... SoapBox Jan 2016 #59
Unconvincing. Orsino Jan 2016 #61

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
47. vanity fair is an awesome magazine on political issues. Don't worry.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:48 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary is busy 'shaking some sense' into Iowans right now to worry about the other ... say, 49 states she needs to win.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
11. The unnamed Watergate source, deep throat, wasn't revealed for 33 years
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jan 2016

Ironically by Vanity Fair.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
3. On The Bright Side
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 02:58 PM
Jan 2016

I don't think she has to worry about finishing 3rd in Iowa this time. 2nd on the other hand.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
48. Yes it would. All it would take is for Iowans to warm up to O'Malley's down home charm...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:51 PM
Jan 2016

...and it might be possible

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
13. That's then a bit redundant...President Clinton and President Clinton.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jan 2016

Here we go with the ultimate in Pillow Talk. Egads.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
18. Well, I'm not too concerned about the likelihood of having to deal with that.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jan 2016

President Sanders works better for me. We can agree to disagree.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
19. lol. I had no idea we were in disagreement. At all.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jan 2016

The things one learns. I was simply addressing the manner in which past Presidents are referred. Didn't know it was a point of contention for some.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
20. "The likelyhood" of that event...one President and one Ex-President in the White House...was what I
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jan 2016

was referring to. Sorry I wasn't clearer. He's still the first Bubba...you know, First Lady et al. Our current First Lady is ALSO Michelle Obama. And if she had been a Senator or such, she would ALSO be Senator Obama.

I hope that's clearer.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
58. It would be President Clinton, and I do.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:06 PM
Jan 2016

So we'e electing both of them????

Hillary needs Bill to help her run the country.... like her campaign????

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
9. I sure hope Dems aren't saddled with this team leading the charge in Nov
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jan 2016

Circular firing squad, just like her campaign team in 2008.

They have learned nothing. Can't even keep their mouths shut.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
10. We're just two weeks away from the anniversary of her 2008 campaign manager quitting
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jan 2016

It was preceded with these signs of it unraveling.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
14. Not a fan of HRC but really.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jan 2016

If the 90's taught us nothing else, we should know that she, Bill and The Machine will not go quietly. Ever.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
16. ...a source "close to the situation"
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jan 2016

What total BS! LOLZ

...a source "close to the situation"...

IOW, a Sanders operative.

How stupid do they think people are anyway? SMH

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
35. It's Vanity Fair
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jan 2016

...and unnamed sources are often used, especially in political stories.

Politico is reporting the same thing.

I sense mass hysteria in the Clinton camp and a campaign that is imploding so badly that people are talking about it.

There comes a point where the damage is so bad that people begin flapping their gums.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
40. Of course you know that some people want more than "unnamed sources"
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jan 2016

They want photos, written statements, recordings, a first born child, and a birth certificate. That and twenty bucks will get you closer to the truth.

kath

(10,565 posts)
49. far, far, far away. like why don't you and Bill retire to Siberia so we never have to hear your
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jan 2016

Voices or see your faces again.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. I am skeptical. Who is really in charge of a campaign, the candidate or the campaign manager?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jan 2016

If you have a candidate worth his or her salt, the candidate is in charge. I don't believe Bill is calling Mook daily to beg for something. I just don't.

draa

(975 posts)
33. I read an article a few weeks back that said she had problems controlling her staff in 2008.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jan 2016

It spoke to leadership. Your questions lead back to that article for me.

Now she's having the same issues in 2016.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
42. It's Hillary.. She lacks authenticity....
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jan 2016

there's nothing Bill or anyone else can do about it. And it just becomes worse with desperation

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
50. Kicked and recommended!
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jan 2016

We trust Bill even less than we trust Hillary. Now that Hillary has attacked single payer we see that our mistrust was justified.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
55. Not so sure about that
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jan 2016

They're both slippery, but Hillary tends to get reckless when she's desperate, which could make her more dangerous.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
53. Remember when we all said we weren't ready for Bill Clinton's 3rd term?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jan 2016

And we were told, "Oh no, she's a strong independent woman. She'll never allow him to make decisions for her. She'll keep him on the sidelines".

Well, at the first sign of trouble in the campaign he's all set to stick his big red nose in. And she can't stop him.

I don't know about anybody else, but to me this is exactly what we can expect from a Hillary Clinton presidency. He'll be calling cabinet officers, senators, the press, everybody, to defend her decisions or to make decisions for her. And I don't think the country wants him anywhere near the decision making process. We're just now realizing the implications of the crappy he job he did 20 years ago.

Maybe the campaign needs to hire a couple of interns to keep him occupied so he won't fuck everything up for her.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
56. Bill, your Third Way, pander to the wealthy and Wall Street no longer plays.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:15 AM
Jan 2016

Bet Bill is very upset at Hillary's no longer being the undisputed Democratic nominee. She helped the family fortune and the Clinton Foundation enormously as Secretary of State and as president...well...$$$$$.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
57. Found my large fork, finally.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jan 2016

Always good to keep at hand when you get the sense that something's almost done.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
59. I think that should have said....
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:22 PM
Jan 2016
Even Bill Clinton Is Freaking Out About Hillary’s FUMBLING Campaign

And now he wants a shift to the Super Tuesday states?

So Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada have been tossed under the loser bus?

The writing is already on the wall, Wild Willie...it's over.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
61. Unconvincing.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jan 2016

Yes, Sanders is gaining ground. Big Money, however, is still behind Clinton, and will be unless several primaries go against her.

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