2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary's Campaign Is Imploding. And It's LEAKING like a Sieve.
Any time a campaign starts to leak this badly, you know it's in trouble. Yesterday it was reported that a source "close to the situation" was relaying that Bill is worried about the campaign. Now, today, it's multiple sources and Vanity Fair is covering it.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/01/bill-clinton-hillary-campaign-strategy
The Comeback Kid cant be kept on the sidelines for long. After finally stepping out of the shadows earlier this month to begin stumping for his wife, Bill Clinton is reportedly seizing a larger role in advising Hillary Clintons presidential campaign as he grows increasingly worried that she isnt focusing enough on the dozens of primary states that vote in March.
News of Bills involvement in Clintons camp reflects a very real concern: what once seemed an easy path to victory for the former secretary of state has now turned treacherous with the soaring popularity of Bernie Sanders, whose poll numbers in the early-voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire threaten to stunt her momentum. According to Politico, Bill has been urging the campaign to begin diverting resources outside Iowa and New Hampshire, reportedly calling her campaign manager, Robert Mook, almost daily to persuade him to send more staff to the states voting in March. The resistance, it seems, comes from Hillarys teams overwhelming desire to not repeat the mistakes of 2008, when an unknown post-racial upstart came out of nowhere to win Iowa, pushing her to a shocking third place.
But several sources tell Politico they are convinced, along with Bill, that this is the wrong way to play the primary game.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)msongs
(67,393 posts)SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)Not the National Enquirer. Vanity Fair. Did you miss that part?
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Hillary is busy 'shaking some sense' into Iowans right now to worry about the other ... say, 49 states she needs to win.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Ironically by Vanity Fair.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)sourced political reporting. It's known for it.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Smells like desperation to me.
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)I don't think she has to worry about finishing 3rd in Iowa this time. 2nd on the other hand.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)...and it might be possible
99Forever
(14,524 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Here we go with the ultimate in Pillow Talk. Egads.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Past Presidents are referred to as Mr. President.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)President Sanders works better for me. We can agree to disagree.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The things one learns. I was simply addressing the manner in which past Presidents are referred. Didn't know it was a point of contention for some.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)was referring to. Sorry I wasn't clearer. He's still the first Bubba...you know, First Lady et al. Our current First Lady is ALSO Michelle Obama. And if she had been a Senator or such, she would ALSO be Senator Obama.
I hope that's clearer.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)So we'e electing both of them????
Hillary needs Bill to help her run the country.... like her campaign????
tinrobot
(10,893 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)Circular firing squad, just like her campaign team in 2008.
They have learned nothing. Can't even keep their mouths shut.
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)It was preceded with these signs of it unraveling.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)If the 90's taught us nothing else, we should know that she, Bill and The Machine will not go quietly. Ever.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)What total BS! LOLZ
...a source "close to the situation"...
IOW, a Sanders operative.
How stupid do they think people are anyway? SMH
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Name the source then.
I'll wait......
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...and unnamed sources are often used, especially in political stories.
Politico is reporting the same thing.
I sense mass hysteria in the Clinton camp and a campaign that is imploding so badly that people are talking about it.
There comes a point where the damage is so bad that people begin flapping their gums.
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)They want photos, written statements, recordings, a first born child, and a birth certificate. That and twenty bucks will get you closer to the truth.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)fbc
(1,668 posts)Just go away
kath
(10,565 posts)Voices or see your faces again.
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)If you have a candidate worth his or her salt, the candidate is in charge. I don't believe Bill is calling Mook daily to beg for something. I just don't.
draa
(975 posts)It spoke to leadership. Your questions lead back to that article for me.
Now she's having the same issues in 2016.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)Robby Mook Just Took the Hardest Job in Politics: Saving the Clintons from Themselves
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/robby-mook-hillary-clinton-campaign-manager-profile
azmom
(5,208 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I did this for the Romney campaign...
draa
(975 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)raindaddy
(1,370 posts)there's nothing Bill or anyone else can do about it. And it just becomes worse with desperation
abakan
(1,819 posts)Can I get you a bailing bucket, Hillary?
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)We trust Bill even less than we trust Hillary. Now that Hillary has attacked single payer we see that our mistrust was justified.
senz
(11,945 posts)They're both slippery, but Hillary tends to get reckless when she's desperate, which could make her more dangerous.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)OMFG anything but that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tularetom
(23,664 posts)And we were told, "Oh no, she's a strong independent woman. She'll never allow him to make decisions for her. She'll keep him on the sidelines".
Well, at the first sign of trouble in the campaign he's all set to stick his big red nose in. And she can't stop him.
I don't know about anybody else, but to me this is exactly what we can expect from a Hillary Clinton presidency. He'll be calling cabinet officers, senators, the press, everybody, to defend her decisions or to make decisions for her. And I don't think the country wants him anywhere near the decision making process. We're just now realizing the implications of the crappy he job he did 20 years ago.
Maybe the campaign needs to hire a couple of interns to keep him occupied so he won't fuck everything up for her.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)MOOOOB
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Bet Bill is very upset at Hillary's no longer being the undisputed Democratic nominee. She helped the family fortune and the Clinton Foundation enormously as Secretary of State and as president...well...$$$$$.
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)Always good to keep at hand when you get the sense that something's almost done.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)And now he wants a shift to the Super Tuesday states?
So Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada have been tossed under the loser bus?
The writing is already on the wall, Wild Willie...it's over.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Yes, Sanders is gaining ground. Big Money, however, is still behind Clinton, and will be unless several primaries go against her.