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Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:01 PM Jan 2016

1. One risk pool. Everybody in, nobody out.

2. One payer to negotiate prices for the greatest benefit to the most people.
3. Reasonable wages for practitioners, and subsidized medical schooling for critical areas of practice.
4. Support and community design for healthy living.
5. Realistic conversations about death.

That's a single-payer plan that will work. Not overnight, but at least we've got a Presidential candidate that's got the conversation started.

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valerief

(53,235 posts)
1. It's funny how critics don't mind the one-risk pool of commercial with investment banks.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:04 PM
Jan 2016

That kind of risk only hurts not-wealthy people. Who gives a shit about them, right?

You're talking about helping not-wealthy people. That's crazy talk in an oligarchy!

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
5. EXACTLY!!!! Privatize the profits, Socialize the risk says the 1%
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jan 2016

Enough is Enough is ENOUGH says the masses.

Let's turn this crap around!

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
2. Oh my God! My hair is on fire reading about all this Central Planning! commie commie commie commie,
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:05 PM
Jan 2016

commie chameleon!

Central planning never works unless it's the product of a corporate monopoly. Then corporate efficiencies or something.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
7. The structure is already there with Medicare.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jan 2016

I think one of the chief benefits of ACA has been, especially in the Medicaid expansion areas, to get people into the knowledge and habit of going to the doctor. I wouldn't want to see those gains lost while the bigger system is being developed.

Also, there are Coordinated Care Organizations working to look at incentivized payment models with better outcomes. CMS (the Medicare umbrella) could develop best practices from those, it seems.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
10. I think I agree ...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jan 2016

... I'd like to see the blue states start to bring these elements in (we know the red states won't do it) ... and if we get a few good examples going, we can make progress.

But the idea that this all suddenly "happens" I don't find very credible.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
11. No, it's not overnight, as I mentioned, but by jiggers at least there's one guy on the Big Stage
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jan 2016

who's talking about this, and causing it to be in the media and around peoples' kitchen tables.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. Expand Medicare.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jan 2016

It already covers seniors and the disabled. The VA is actually government run healthcare. Single payer is NOT some idea that has never been tested. It works in every industrialized democracy but the US.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
13. Yeah, they're real scared of the Death Panels.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jan 2016

I don't mind them so much, I just want my panel to be reasonable.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. When it starts looking like my time is near, I'll be glad to take some euthanasia pills for the
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jan 2016

good of the risk pool -- If the right wingers would just quit saying I have to live until my condition or pain is so bad I turn on the gas and hope I don't blow up a lot of innocents people.

GOPers are really what's ailing us.

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