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(26,449 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:52 PM Jan 2016

Hillary's Campaign likes their Iowans Shaken

I wonder if this will end up stirring them?

The former secretary of state used a Teleprompter to deliver her remarks to hundreds of supporters on the campus of Simpson College. The speech, one adviser said, was designed to "shake some sense into Iowans" and escalate the experience argument she has been making against Sanders with limited success.

With friends like that...

Hillary's Campaign likes their Iowans Shaken (Original Post) hootinholler Jan 2016 OP
"come on dumb hicks!" morningfog Jan 2016 #1
She's supposed to EARN our vote, CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #6
There you go voting with your heart instead of your head. morningfog Jan 2016 #7
Goshdarnit! All the corn and snow is clogging my brain! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #9
(Getting out a bag of shake) Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #54
it's her authoritarian instinct grasswire Jan 2016 #30
Just a spoonful of condescension helps the medicine go down Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #47
nothing like reinforcing your new yawk big city thing, HRC. Awesome thing. roguevalley Jan 2016 #33
I think THIS will stir them JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #2
Condescension - It's what's for Hillary. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #3
Shaken, not stirred. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #4
Damn it! You beat me to it. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #11
Hiya Uncle Joe! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #31
heehee - u beat me to it. 840high Jan 2016 #63
Yeah, she made fun of us for supporting Obama too CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #5
The hubris is amazing hootinholler Jan 2016 #17
You mean as she arrived by helicopter Depaysement Jan 2016 #18
Are you referring to her "Hill-o-copter"? ....Oh dear CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #23
Lol DJ13 Jan 2016 #25
She abandoned the idea after a couple of days CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #26
OMG! SoapBox Jan 2016 #41
We're calling it Hill-o-White House. 840high Jan 2016 #64
The one and the same nt Depaysement Jan 2016 #72
"Subjects of the realm"? Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #49
Remember this from 2008? neverforget Jan 2016 #32
Wow... SoapBox Jan 2016 #42
It's a rerun 8 years in the making. neverforget Jan 2016 #45
Is she our mommy now? Shake some sense into us? Sheesh. n/t Avalux Jan 2016 #8
Bad Iowans!! Bad, bad Iowans!! (nt) CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #12
An 8th way she is like your abuela? n/t Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #15
Abuela, mommy...I dread to think what's next! CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #16
a good question i must admit Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2016 #62
No, she's your abuela demwing Jan 2016 #20
Oooh... bvf Jan 2016 #10
Don't they know it is Her Turn??? Silly Iowans who had her in 3rd place in '08. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #13
So when people don't react the way she wants they deserve to be shaken? CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #14
Voting for Bernie is the effect of "Shaken Iowan Syndrom." JimDandy Jan 2016 #19
Well, I was on the fence regarding Sanders vs. Hillary, but Hillary just stirred me up. Frustratedlady Jan 2016 #21
Read it again. Hillary herself didn't say it. Metric System Jan 2016 #28
Doesn't matter. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #34
buck stops with her. she picked the staff. roguevalley Jan 2016 #35
True, nor did I claim she did hootinholler Jan 2016 #44
She said made almost the same insult on Monday, so that's a bit of a hair split. Gore1FL Jan 2016 #56
How dare the voters think for themselves instead of automatically going with the chosen one? jfern Jan 2016 #22
The elites have always known what's best for us whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #24
W said that, didn't he? PatrickforO Jan 2016 #27
Shake Iowans. TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #29
Personally... I Think She's Living In Her Own Private Idaho... WillyT Jan 2016 #40
Sigh....... SoapBox Jan 2016 #46
I Saw Them In The Late 80's After 'Love Shack' At The S.F. Civic Center... WillyT Jan 2016 #51
Shake Some Iowans Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #58
Love The Flamin' Groovies. TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #69
That works too! n/t Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #70
nice song nt mhatrw Jan 2016 #67
Come on you are ruining a good thing. Her and Bill are not Billionaires yet. nt Skwmom Jan 2016 #36
Yeah... She's A Regular Jane Bond... WillyT Jan 2016 #37
Not as bad as Cruz's statement about NY, but ... Babel_17 Jan 2016 #38
Am I the first to post this? Babel_17 Jan 2016 #39
Oh Stop! SoapBox Jan 2016 #48
LOL! TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #50
LOL, I know what's going viral on socia media tomorrow. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #55
If anyone knows somebody ... Babel_17 Jan 2016 #61
LMAO!!!! tomm2thumbs Jan 2016 #57
Ohmigod. kath Jan 2016 #66
Hillary said... ? tom_kelly Jan 2016 #43
We Upper-Midwesterners hate this kind of condecending BS Odin2005 Jan 2016 #52
She is condescending to Iowans Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #53
In fairness to Hillary Clinton Eric J in MN Jan 2016 #59
Let this IOWAN tell you something slumcamper Jan 2016 #60
Madame Hillary will explain it all to you hicks in Iowa! Bernblu Jan 2016 #65
Take your bitter Republican Lite medicine like good little drones! Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #68
My dream Iowa caucuses ... in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #71


(24,411 posts)
6. She's supposed to EARN our vote,
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jan 2016

not come into our state and scold us like we're bad dogs.

We're voting for Sanders, Hillary. We're not pooping on your carpet.


(24,411 posts)
9. Goshdarnit! All the corn and snow is clogging my brain!
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:10 PM
Jan 2016

I can't think straight with all of this hay flying around!

Someone quick! Shake some sense into me!


(50,130 posts)
30. it's her authoritarian instinct
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jan 2016

She's kind of like a Mary Poppins without the spoonful of sugar. She wants to make the medicine go down!!


(24,411 posts)
5. Yeah, she made fun of us for supporting Obama too
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jan 2016

She made fun of his pretty speeches, big rallies and celebrity-like status, and she basically scolded us and told us that it was time to get down to business and select a real candidate who had experience.

That worked SO well for her in 2008.


(26,449 posts)
17. The hubris is amazing
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jan 2016

That staff continually say shit like this is just unacceptable.

The other thing is that since it was delivered with teleprompting, we know it was wordsmithed for impact. Then to have someone say shake some sense into someone, that's a rather violent expression. Once upon a time it was literally done usually to a kid or a woman, occasionally even today kids are shaken with dire consequences for the kid.


(24,411 posts)
23. Are you referring to her "Hill-o-copter"? ....Oh dear
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:26 PM
Jan 2016

I still can't believe that this was real.

Clinton a Hover-Girl in 'Hill-o-copter

COUNCIL BLUFFS, IOWA – Hillary Rodham Clinton rose far above her opponents yesterday, despite struggling in the polls, as she whirled around the frozen plains of Iowa in a private helicopter.

“I’m actually even going to get into a helicopter after I leave you,” she told the audience yesterday. “We’re calling it a Hill-o-copter, and we’re going to be able to cover more ground that way.”



(24,411 posts)
26. She abandoned the idea after a couple of days
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:51 PM
Jan 2016

The entire state of Iowa basically laughed her out of the sky.

This was her answer to lifting her sagging polls.

No one here got it.


(18,791 posts)
41. OMG!
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:25 PM
Jan 2016

I never knew about this!

And the last line in the article...

"Icy landing strips have grounded the swanky corporate jets usually favored by Clinton and her husband."

They make me sick.


(9,426 posts)
32. Remember this from 2008?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jan 2016

Quote starts at 40 seconds.

Clinton Gets Sarcastic, Mocks Obama

(CNN) - A day after Hillary Clinton angrily called on Barack Obama to stop mailing campaign literature she said misrepresented her positions, the New York senator adopted a more sarcastic tone toward her rival on a campaign swing through Rhode Island Sunday.

Speaking to a crowd at Rhode Island College, Clinton said, "None of the problems we face will be easily solved," and then went on to mock Obama's message of unity.

“Now, I could stand up here and say, ‘Let’s just get everybody together. Let’s get unified,'" Clinton said to laughter of the crowd.

"The skies will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect,” she said dryly as the crowd erupted.

“Maybe I’ve just lived a little long, but I have no illusions about how hard this is going to be," Clinton continued. "You are not going to wave a magic wand to make special interests disappear."

Sound familiar?

(I used the YouTube video because the CNN one is not available anymore)


(18,791 posts)
42. Wow...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jan 2016

That same "being President is hard" thing? Back then? And she just used it again in the last week!

Dumbest campaign ever.


(9,426 posts)
45. It's a rerun 8 years in the making.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:32 PM
Jan 2016

You'd think that they would have learned something the first time around. I guess not.

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
62. a good question i must admit
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 12:19 AM
Jan 2016

we have had her presented in a grandmother role, currently its a motherly role

my guess is the next incarnation will be a tsundere sister or daughter role

and to save people looking up the word, the term tsundere tends to refer to a person who 'runs hot and cold', shifting between the two distinct moods: tsuntsun (aloof or irritable) and deredere (sweet or kind) .



(22,308 posts)
13. Don't they know it is Her Turn??? Silly Iowans who had her in 3rd place in '08.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:14 PM
Jan 2016

How dare they not let her win this time.


(16,254 posts)
21. Well, I was on the fence regarding Sanders vs. Hillary, but Hillary just stirred me up.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:23 PM
Jan 2016

As an elderly Iowan, I have made up my mind. I will caucus for Sanders. I sure as hell don't need any candidate telling me I need her to shake some sense into me. I have a mind of my own and have used it to some degree of success in voting and in life.

Didn't she learn her lesson from 2008 when she pulled the same crap with Obama? I didn't appreciate it then and I don't appreciate it now.

Maybe some tears in New Hampshire will help her with a win, but I'd say she just blew her wad for Iowans.


(26,449 posts)
44. True, nor did I claim she did
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:31 PM
Jan 2016

However, it does speak volumes about the nature of the culture in her campaign. Not only did they flat out state the speech was designed to manipulate Iowa voters, but to imply they are out of their senses while making that admission is a rather suboptimal strategy.


(20,846 posts)
56. She said made almost the same insult on Monday, so that's a bit of a hair split.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jan 2016

When she asked voters follow their heads and not their hearts. (as interpreted by David Axlerod) That's the same sort of condescending expression as "shaking the sense" into someone.

Going negative never works for her. I can't believe she's running the 2008 playbook again.


(18,791 posts)
46. Sigh.......
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:33 PM
Jan 2016

I LOVED The B-52's!

Well that was a very nice distraction from thinking about "her".



(72,631 posts)
51. I Saw Them In The Late 80's After 'Love Shack' At The S.F. Civic Center...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jan 2016

Man... was THAT a dance party !!!


(5,400 posts)
38. Not as bad as Cruz's statement about NY, but ...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:12 PM
Jan 2016

Not as bad as Cruz's statement about NY, but there is an opportunity here to sell some newspapers.


(884 posts)
43. Hillary said... ?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:29 PM
Jan 2016

"He has suggested that we invite Iranian troops into Syria," Clinton said ???????? I hadn't heard about this.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
59. In fairness to Hillary Clinton
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jan 2016

...if an article quoted an unnamed "adviser" to Bernie Sanders saying something stupid, I wouldn't blame Sanders.

A person can say, "I'm an adviser" without having ever been hired by a campaign. Dozens of people can describe themselves as unpaid campaign advisers. Not the same as being a campaign spokesperson.


(1,572 posts)
60. Let this IOWAN tell you something
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:50 PM
Jan 2016

As one who attended a college with an NCAA Division III ranking in Iowa, Simpson College in Indianola (of all places) is about the LEAST strategic place to make a stand during the critical moment leading up to the caucus. This signifies a campaign that is flailing, strategically speaking. So out of touch, so remote, so sad.

Further confirmation of this came tonight when my wife and I (both registered Democrats) finally made it to the post office after work. It had been nearly a week so the mail was dense. Between us (I committed to the Bern, she uncommitted but leaning) we received 6 mailings from Bernie--and NONE from Hilary. That sealed the deal. While this is scant evidence, I'm fairly confident in saying that Bernie's small-donor, grassroots organization is out-organizing and burying HRC in Iowa.

If it come to it I will embrace Hillary in November. As for now I'll fight tooth and nail for a higher justice!

--Wellman, Iowa.


(41,600 posts)
71. My dream Iowa caucuses ...
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 12:09 PM
Jan 2016

They send Hillary W. Bush packing in THIRD PLACE again.

What better way to answer her arrogance?


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