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stellanoir

(14,881 posts)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:44 PM Jan 2016

Duhhh. . . ."political correctness" = basic civility


Prior to current sound biting jingoism in our short attention span culture, "political correctness" was commonly known as "basic civility.”

I would guess that uncivilized behavior would be inclusive of bullying & abusive verbal assaults.

It truly dehumanizes us all.

Perhaps in these times, it might be wise to focus on & encourage the evolution of human nature, not the perpetual predictable yawn fest of its degradation.

More than most overcome throwing stones & calling names by the time they graduate from the sandbox.

Just sayin'

“nam myoho renge kyo”
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Duhhh. . . ."political correctness" = basic civility (Original Post) stellanoir Jan 2016 OP
yes - respect and consideration KT2000 Jan 2016 #1
yeah for sure stellanoir Jan 2016 #2
Not always. cali Jan 2016 #3
Welp stellanoir Jan 2016 #5
Not entirely true. TM99 Jan 2016 #4
Wow !!! stellanoir Jan 2016 #6
Things can get out of hand TM99 Jan 2016 #7
Forcing anything is invariably counterproductive. stellanoir Jan 2016 #8

KT2000

(20,571 posts)
1. yes - respect and consideration
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jan 2016

go a long way to making a livable society. It is sad what is happening now.

stellanoir

(14,881 posts)
2. yeah for sure
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jan 2016

"Respect and consideration" *are* wholly inherent to civility.

There are many who truly believe similarly, that compassion, & empathy, & integrity will expedite our evolution.

stellanoir

(14,881 posts)
5. Welp
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:06 PM
Jan 2016

Plenty of cultures prided themselves as being "civilized" and lauded it over gentle indigenous they deemed as "barbaric" in order to exploit them.

Yet perhaps what I'm trying to allude to as civil behavior is basic human decency & the golden rule.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
4. Not entirely true.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jan 2016

Basic civility and empathic communication is a two way street.

If one sides attempts to 'control the language' then it is anything but.

Calling me, a PoC, a 'nigger' is one thing. But telling white people that if they use the phrase 'peanut gallery' then they are being racist is quite another.

The first is about bigotry and it must be resolved with empathy and civility. The second is about the person doing the lecturing. As a PoC, I am not offended by a hundred year old idiom that really isn't about racism. But the person doing the lecturing gets an ego stroke and that is anything but civil or empathic. That is entirely about them and not about me or us.

There really is a difference.

stellanoir

(14,881 posts)
6. Wow !!!
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:35 PM
Jan 2016

I had no clue whatsoever that "peanut gallery" was derogatory to anyone other than incessant hecklers in an audience.

Wrongly thought that it applied to those who observe critically but never participate, as in armchair quarterbacks or people who do annoyingly loud commentaries in theaters.

Thank you for bringing that to my attention.

Of course interaction is always a two way street.

Maybe we could elevate the dialogue by honoring all perspectives without responding in kind (or unkind).

I've found that humor is often a phenomenal neutralizer when it's not at anyone's expense. It's unquestionably easier to access in some situations than others though.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
7. Things can get out of hand
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jan 2016

when we try to force others to be civil or to have empathy.

It is just not possible. It takes two way communication and transformation of the I - Object relationship into the I - Thou for it to occur.

And yes, an entire video by some know nothing on MTV opined that 'peanut gallery' and several other idioms were racist.

stellanoir

(14,881 posts)
8. Forcing anything is invariably counterproductive.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jan 2016

Inspiring through embodiment is far more creative.

Shadowy projections do abound amongst those who are without introspection.

One could probably read racial slurs into many inane things.

Such ridiculousness.

We are all of one race after all.

Maybe it might have been "nutz" along with the non discriminatory sprinkling of "jerks"

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