HRC is trying to convince us that this is it, we are fucked just

[JRLeft]

accept it and vote for me, because at least I will throw you little people a crumb or 2.

She's as demoralizing as any presidential candidate I've ever seen.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. she is desperate

[JRLeft]

7. She has to be or this is how she will govern.

[hobbit709]

2. We are all supposed to tug our forelocks and be grateful that we are allowed to live.

[JRLeft]

4. I'm supposed to be motivated to vote for that?

She's making it hard to vote for her in the GE if she's the nominee.

[leveymg]

6. Like the poor in some third-world country, we are viewed as a "sacrifice population"

Flint, MI is the new business model for areas and populations that aren't going to be gentrified. HRC may as well call herself "USA Emergency Manager" and fire the rest of the government and rule by banker's decree.

[JRLeft]

8. She knows who stuffs her coffers.

[CorporatistNation]

17. ALL OF US! Are Just Chattel To The Powers That Be and Their Representatives... Gettit?

It is the 1% that matter to most candidates... Not Bernie, he cares about the average person.

[JRLeft]

19. She could care less about regular people. She only wants the job as president to knock it off her

bucket list. By the way she gets follow through with her neoliberalism.

[DanTex]

3. Not sure how anyone can listen to her and come away with that take.

I guess somewhere there was an actual quote from Hillary, but then it gets retold 100 different times in the Bernie world and comes out looking like this.

[JRLeft]

11. She's no we can't candidate. It's impossible candidate.

[DanTex]

12. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Where do people come up with this stuff?

[JRLeft]

15. She said the evil republicans won't allow us to pass anything.

[DanTex]

16. Well, they won't. But I'm pretty sure she didn't use those words.

[tex-wyo-dem]

24. So why even try, right DanTex?

The Repugs rule our destiny, no matter what; right?

[merrily]

35. From what she says and does.

[merrily]

34. Talk is cheap. She has a lifetime of Goldwater Girl, President of the Young Republicans,

Member of the Board of WalMart, founding member of the DLC, US Sneator who voted for every war and surge she could vote for, her neoconlike regime change advocacy, her weird laughter at the prospect of bombing Iran, etc.

See also Replies 22, 28, 29, 31 and 33 on this thread and many, many posts on this board.

That the Draft Warren movement and the crowds that surround Sanders scared her into talking more populist this time around than she did in 2008 or than she's ever behaved in her lifetime is nothing compared to well over 50 years of behavior.

Oh, and if you want to know why we else we don't take the latest "evolution" of Hillary at its word: both Clintons have lied to America, Bill under oath definitely once and, given Susan McDougall contempt sentence and the Paula Jones suit, probably more than twice. Her trustworthiness numbers are low and, IMO, for good reasons.

[Fumesucker]

5. You are a fluke of the universe you have no right to be here

[Fuddnik]

9. You proles shut up and eat your peas!

And if you're good, tomorrow you can have mush.

[JRLeft]

10. Off of the ground with no utensils of course.

[wilsonbooks]

14. And don't even think about asking for a pony.

[JRLeft]

18. We're peasants to her.

[Ferd Berfel]

13. Hillary is still the Goldwater Girl. She is the Corporate Deal.

They sold the Democratic Party to the Corporatist Oligarchs Decades ago. But We're just supposed to forget that.

Do you think that this (below) had ANYTHING to do with: NAFTA, GATT, WTO, Telecommunications Act, ending welfare as we knew it, Glass-Stegall, etc, etc, up to, and including TPP?


The Rightwing Koch Brothers Fund the DLC

... the Koch brothers have also been funding the Democratic Leadership Council. Welcome fellow Democrat! ...

http://www.democrats.com/node/7789

Do deep-pocketed "philanthropists" necessarily control the organizations they fund? That has certainly been the contention of those who truck in conspiracy theories about the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations funding liberal and neo-liberal organizations. As for the rightwing, journalists such as Joe Conason and Gene Lyons uncovered that the "vast right wing conspiracy" -- or the New Right network of think tanks, media outlets and pressure groups -- was marshalled under rightwing billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife for his Get-Clinton campaign. Prior to the work of Conason and Lyons, Russ Bellant extensively documented in "The Coors Connection" how the Coors Family, Scaife and other wealthy rightwingers have funded the New Right movement since the early '70's. Among these rightwing benefactors are the Koch brothers. But the Kochs have been working both sides of the fence. As Bill Berkowitz writes, the Koch brothers have also been funding the Democratic Leadership Council.

According to SourceWatch, a project of the Center for Media & Democracy, the brothers are "leading contributors to the Koch family foundations, which supports a network of Conservative organizations and think tanks, including Citizens for a Sound Economy, the Manhattan Institute the Heartland Institute, and the Democratic Leadership Council."

Charles Koch co-founded the Cato Institute in 1977, while David helped launch Citizens for a Sound Economy in 1986.

This is no less stunning than if Scaife or the Coors family were funding the DLC. So do the Kochs just throw money at the DLC -

[Ed Suspicious]

20. Walmart's warrior.

[Ferd Berfel]

21. THe Faustian deal

[6chars]

26. Interesting - I was not aware of this

[merrily]

32. Really? You should google. While on the board of Walmart, she did nothing to help Walmart

workers in general, say her fellow members of the board. Her sole advocacy was on behalf of hiring women and equal pay for women. As badly as Walmart treated its workers in the 1980s, she did nothing else, even when the workers went on strike.

Or were you referring to the Koch brothers funding the DLC, of which she was a founding member? If so, be advised that the Koch brothers did not provide only initial funding. They also sat on the Executive Council of the DLC in its early days.

[JRLeft]

23. She wants a total sell out to Wall Street.

[merrily]

31. Not to mention the President of Young Republicans of Wellesley College.

[merrily]

33. The Koch's did not only fund the DLC; they were members of the DLC's Executive Council.

They helped found the DLC to take the Democratic Party right and they astroturfed/foounded the Tea Party to take the Republican Party even further right.

[Ferd Berfel]

38. Good POint. IT's not mentioned enough

[Faux pas]

22. Kickin'

[Live and Learn]

25. They are attempting to blackmail us. Vote for me or we will sabotage the election. Despicable.

[merrily]

29. Can you spell PUMA?

[applegrove]

27. Way to run a GOP meme. I don't think taxing the rich

only is demoralizing. I don't think wanting a Dem in the White House is either.

[merrily]

30. The home page of the website of the Democratic Party shows three candidates, one of whom is Sanders.

https://www.democrats.org/

How much hubris does it take to think your test for who is a Democrat is better than that of the DNC, Howard Dean, Chuck Schumer, the Democratic Party of the State of Vermont and the Secretaries of State of all the states that are allowing Sanders to run as a Democrat, including his home state?

Talk about a RW meme!

[merrily]

28. "Senator McCain and I are ready for that 3 am phone call. Senator Obama is not."

Or words to that effect, on national effing TV.

[djean111]

36. Not buying her spiel. Ever.

it is all amorphous campaign blather. ALL of it.

[BigBearJohn]

37. She reminds me of Bea Arthur of the Golden Girls (no offense Bea)

[Odin2005]

39. She is the No Hope candidate.

To her we are just pawns to be manipulated.