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George II

(67,782 posts)
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:04 PM Jan 2016

Des Moines Register: Media bias on polls against Clinton now indisputable


Media bias on polls against Clinton now indisputable

Last July, in assessing the anti-Hillary spin that the national media always seems to show when reporting on state and national polls in the Democratic race, I wrote in my “Purple Nation” regular weekly column in The Hill newspaper, “I for one would not be surprised if Sanders won or did very well in both Iowa and New Hampshire, especially the latter. After all, Sanders is from New Hampshire’s neighboring state of Vermont. I believe that no candidate from a New England state in recent years from either party has lost the New Hampshire primary other than the late Senator Ted Kennedy in 1980.”

So far, the latest polls have confirmed my prediction. Also confirmed is the fact that media bias reporting on Sanders positive poll results and ignoring or downplaying Clinton’s continues.

The latest (and, historically, usually most reliable) Iowa Poll by The Des Moines Register as of Jan. 10 showed Secretary Clinton and Senator Sanders in a statistically dead heat: 42 percent Clinton and 40 percent Sanders (margin-of-error +/- 4.4 percent).

Regarding New Hampshire, on Tuesday of this week, the contrasting media coverage of two polls completed the same day — Jan. 18 — with comparable samples were stark. The overwhelming media attention was given to the CNN-WMUR TV poll, which found Senator Sanders with a substantial lead of 27 percent over Secretary Clinton — 60 percent to 33 percent (420 likely voters in sample, with margin-of-error +/- 4.8 percent). The second poll, completed on the same day but with a larger sample size and smaller margin of error, conducted by the American Research Group (ARG), showed the race in a statistical dead heat, within the +/- 4 percent margin-of error — with plus-6 percent at 49 percent to Clinton’s 43 percent (sample size 600 likely voters).

I am betting that few people reading this column in Iowa have even heard about the ARG results in New Hampshire.

On Sunday, Jan. 17, the NBC-Wall Street Journal national poll showed Clinton with a lead of 25 percent nationally among Democrats — an increase over December’s results.

The same poll showed Clinton defeating Trump by 10 percent, despite Trump’s repeated claims that he leads over Clinton.

Yet, again, these positive poll results for Clinton and negative outcome for Senator Sanders were downplayed or virtually ignored by the national media and cable news stations. Even on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on that Sunday, the moderator, Chuck Todd — despite conducting interviews of both Clinton and Sanders — ignored any mention of his own network’s poll just published that morning.

The internal results of the NBC-WSJ poll also showed even more positive current data in favor of Clinton. For example, Clinton led 65 percent to 27 percent among women; 71 percent to 27 percent among 50-plus voters; 77 percent to 19 percent among voters who want "experience;" 54 percent to 43 percent among "liberals;" 64 percent-24 percent among moderates/conservatives; and plus-15 percent among white voters and, notably, 69 percent among "nonwhite primary voters." And 80 percent of Democrats nationally say they could see themselves voting for Clinton, vs. 67 percent would consider voting for Sanders. Again media coverage of these data, as far as I could tell, virtually zero.

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http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/caucus/2016/01/20/media-bias-polls-against-clinton-now-indisputable/79076226/
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Des Moines Register: Media bias on polls against Clinton now indisputable (Original Post) George II Jan 2016 OP
Of course. Media've been cherry-picking FOR Bernie Hortensis Jan 2016 #1
I think it is more insidious than misogyny. MoonRiver Jan 2016 #9
Polls say you're wrong! Fawke Em Jan 2016 #14
Polls suggest MR's right. Wishful thinking Hortensis Jan 2016 #17
Do you actually have a link to the poll you're referring to? Because your statement and your synergie Jan 2016 #53
Oh, and yes: MSM ownes/execs want to elect Republicans! Hortensis Jan 2016 #16
That's my story and I'm sticking to it! MoonRiver Jan 2016 #25
And we know why they are cherry picking, but let them laugh and make believe Iliyah Jan 2016 #23
K & R Iliyah Jan 2016 #2
but "SCIENCE!!1!" whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #3
lol, I know right? closeupready Jan 2016 #49
by Lanny Davis, speaking of BIAS!! nt m-lekktor Jan 2016 #4
Sounds like another conspiracy theory from Lanny Davis. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #5
The M$M was like "Bernie who?" up until maybe a month ago Fumesucker Jan 2016 #6
That's what I was going to say. Vinca Jan 2016 #20
Bwahaha. Yet another of hill's sleazy buds. Gross. cali Jan 2016 #7
Doesn't get much scuzzier than ole Lanny! nt m-lekktor Jan 2016 #10
just to note that the author, Lanny Davis MBS Jan 2016 #8
Hillary has not been given equal footing in the media. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #11
We're talking about the same Hillary right? Kentonio Jan 2016 #22
really? Hillary has gotten 10 times more media attention than Bernie. Your post makes 0 sense litlbilly Jan 2016 #24
At least report polls that show the diversity, ya think that would bring more Iliyah Jan 2016 #27
Lanny Davis? Fawke Em Jan 2016 #12
I see the usual brigade cometh forth to froth their venom Iliyah Jan 2016 #13
Lanny Davis wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #15
Facts are facts. cali Jan 2016 #31
Nothing else seems to work... So now let's try a media bias CT... cascadiance Jan 2016 #18
For months it was Bernie who. draa Jan 2016 #55
LOL! Another Clinton operative, Lanny Davis! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #19
The media bias AGAINST Hillary in polls?! Kentonio Jan 2016 #21
you have not been paying attention. Pay attention. riversedge Jan 2016 #26
I paid plenty of attention to the near total media blackout on Bernie for months Kentonio Jan 2016 #32
Right the 'blackout' where Bernie was doing in person interviews on channels synergie Jan 2016 #54
Seriously there's an entire anti Clinton industry gwheezie Jan 2016 #28
Branding Favors both Ways Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #48
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Kalidurga Jan 2016 #29
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^EXACTLY^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and then some nolabels Jan 2016 #36
It was the word indisputable that got me. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #39
After watching them do it for thirty or forty years it's get's to point of humorous nolabels Jan 2016 #43
I literally at that moment could not think in words. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #44
Lanny Davis? Purveyor Jan 2016 #30
This is good...the numbers come in at about the 1.50 minutes libdem4life Jan 2016 #33
BUS FORCE ONE FTW!!!!! Kalidurga Jan 2016 #41
I watched it again when I posted it and laughed just as hard. I even knew what wasw libdem4life Jan 2016 #50
OMG did she hit that guy???? Kalidurga Jan 2016 #51
"Media bias on polls against Clinton" left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #34
Great Caesar's Ghost...! Number23 Jan 2016 #35
Agree...amazing number ignored. Sheepshank Jan 2016 #47
Clinton's buddies were involved in those polls. The spin is amazing. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #37
Karl Rove, is that you - oh wait, it's Lanny Davis! Slick piece of propaganda, for sure. n/t Avalux Jan 2016 #38
Lanny? lol lol lol 840high Jan 2016 #56
This is hilarious. Just one week of positive Bernie stories, and they can't deal with it. reformist2 Jan 2016 #40
I think it's the balance being restored. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #42
oh how the tables have turned retrowire Jan 2016 #45
LOL. "not completely inevitable anymore" = "media bias" mhatrw Jan 2016 #46
Funny thing HassleCat Jan 2016 #52

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. Of course. Media've been cherry-picking FOR Bernie
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:08 PM
Jan 2016

for some months now. Beyond very real bias at the top against a woman president, there is a constant recurring pattern in election after election of a media-wide urge to tighten races to make better stories.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
9. I think it is more insidious than misogyny.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:14 PM
Jan 2016

I believe the MSM is determined to get a Republican in the WH. Having Sanders as the Dem nominee would practically guarantee that happens.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Polls suggest MR's right. Wishful thinking
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jan 2016

says MR's wrong.

How many times have you read, heard, been told that polls are virtually worthless at this point? Yet you keep leaning on them.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
53. Do you actually have a link to the poll you're referring to? Because your statement and your
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:39 AM
Jan 2016

graphic don't match up.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Oh, and yes: MSM ownes/execs want to elect Republicans!
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jan 2016

Absolutely, MoonRiver. I should have said that first.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
5. Sounds like another conspiracy theory from Lanny Davis.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jan 2016

I thought Hillary supporters didn't believe in those?

Oh and you should shorten your op to 4-5 paragraphs otherwise you're in violation of the copyright rules in the TOS.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. The M$M was like "Bernie who?" up until maybe a month ago
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:13 PM
Jan 2016

I must say this is one of the more amusingly ludicrous conspiracy theories I've seen put forth...

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
20. That's what I was going to say.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jan 2016

They wouldn't cover him at all until poll numbers showed him beating Hillary and all the GOP candidates. They still seem to cover him as the left's version of Trump which is more than offensive.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
8. just to note that the author, Lanny Davis
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:13 PM
Jan 2016

is a longtime Clinton friend and supporter: http://www.lannyjdavis.com

He may still be right, but you should keep the source in mind.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
27. At least report polls that show the diversity, ya think that would bring more
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jan 2016

of what the propaganda corporate media want - gawd dang "horse race' where there is none.

Oh yes, the DU use to be a Democratic site where independent opinions, views and opposition made it an illuminating discussion board but alas it has become single minded and dare no one oppose the majority. If this is the revolution, count me out.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
13. I see the usual brigade cometh forth to froth their venom
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:21 PM
Jan 2016

which is totally hilarious. Again I guess the truth hurts - LOL

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
31. Facts are facts.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jan 2016

<snip>

According to Salon columnist Justin Elliot, Davis "specializes in lobbying for controversial corporate and foreign clients, particularly those seeking Democratic representation in Washington".[23] He has "built a client list that now includes oligarchic coup supporters in Honduras, a dictator in Equatorial Guinea, for-profit colleges accused of exploiting students, and a company that dominates the manufacture of additives for infant formula", as well as an "Ivory Coast strongman whose claims to that country’s presidency have been condemned by the international community and may even set off a civil war". Among his clients are "Ivory Coast leader and flagrant human rights violator Laurent Gbagbo" and "Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, the longtime dictator of oil-rich Equatorial Guinea."[23] "Just as Davis was assuring the American press that his client, Gbagbo, opposed violence, Gbagbo's forces were in fact mounting a campaign of organized violence against the opposition".[24] The latter representation has earned him criticism from human rights groups, who claim that he "appears to be engaged in little more than a whitewashing exercise designed to rehabilitate the image of the Obiang regime on the international stage".[25] Similar criticisms were aired in an acerbic exchange with Jon Lovett in The Atlantic.[26]

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanny_Davis#Opinions_and_criticism

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
18. Nothing else seems to work... So now let's try a media bias CT...
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jan 2016

When it is pretty obvious and indisputable that polls and bias have been pretty against Bernie for quite a while now. So many are LAUGHING at this latest attempt to try and find a way to get the corporate choice winning this election.

I see so many media pundits, etc. on all of the shows who've worked for Hillary's campaigns or her staff in the past, and then seeing the efforts to amplify the pundits voices and shut down online polls that have all shown Bernie to have won recent debates, etc., and yet we have a "media is biased towards Bernie" MYTH that they expect us to believe as if we are idiots!

draa

(975 posts)
55. For months it was Bernie who.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:58 AM
Jan 2016

Now it's a media conspiracy to get him nominated. Self awareness is sorely lacking in this.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
19. LOL! Another Clinton operative, Lanny Davis!
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jan 2016

That makes this complete bullshit. Should have known before clicking the link.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
32. I paid plenty of attention to the near total media blackout on Bernie for months
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jan 2016

But now apparently it's all against Hillary? Yeah ok then...

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
54. Right the 'blackout' where Bernie was doing in person interviews on channels
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:47 AM
Jan 2016

several times a day and his people were there the other times.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
28. Seriously there's an entire anti Clinton industry
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jan 2016

People have made their fame and fortune attacking the Clinton's

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
36. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^EXACTLY^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and then some
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:19 PM
Jan 2016

I thought there was a typo or something, i had to read twice and check my glasses

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
43. After watching them do it for thirty or forty years it's get's to point of humorous
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jan 2016

When they get backed up on their heels they often try this kind of double switch. It's so cliche now and have gave up mincing any words because they are just full of themselves.

At any rate thanks for giggles

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
33. This is good...the numbers come in at about the 1.50 minutes
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jan 2016

Spoiler: the minutes the media allowed to these candidates...Trump, Hillary and Bernie are listed.

The numbers are 234, 113, and 10. Methinks the DesMoines newspaper just got it way wrong...especially since their golden endorsement hasn't produced results.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
41. BUS FORCE ONE FTW!!!!!
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:48 PM
Jan 2016

OMG the Betty White zone and Hillary entering the White zone. I can't breathe.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
50. I watched it again when I posted it and laughed just as hard. I even knew what wasw
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:04 AM
Jan 2016

coming...LOL.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
35. Great Caesar's Ghost...!
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jan 2016
The internal results of the NBC-WSJ poll also showed even more positive current data in favor of Clinton. For example, Clinton led 65 percent to 27 percent among women; 71 percent to 27 percent among 50-plus voters; 77 percent to 19 percent among voters who want "experience;" 54 percent to 43 percent among "liberals;" 64 percent-24 percent among moderates/conservatives; and plus-15 percent among white voters and, notably, 69 percent among "nonwhite primary voters." And 80 percent of Democrats nationally say they could see themselves voting for Clinton, vs. 67 percent would consider voting for Sanders.


These numbers are absolutely MASSIVE for Clinton. In every single, solitary Democratic demographic she is killing it.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
42. I think it's the balance being restored.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jan 2016

We lost so much this month. The news has been literally heartbreaking. So, we need at least one bright spot. Bernie has a way of making people feel better even if he is yelling and pointing.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
52. Funny thing
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:15 AM
Jan 2016

When these polls showed Clinton crushing Sanders in Iowa, they were vitally interesting, every bit as remarkable as the national polls showing Clinton with a big lead. Now these polls are just conservative propaganda. Interesting.

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