Clinton and Sanders: The 60’s and 70’s beyond the memes
Of all the memes that push all my buttons, is one with Hillary Clinton and Sanders with the question what were you doing in the 60s. The two are pictured in the sixties with Clinton reduced to her political identity from high school and her first year in college and Sanders framed as a front line warrior for civil rights. No context of time, no more information. Just the demonization Clinton in the eyes of “progressives” of all hues. This picture shuts down discussion, logic and in fact the real truth.
Just by looking at the picture, one immediately thinks, he was in the front lines fighting and she was coddled in the haven of Republican America working against social justice, civil rights and all that defines the left.
(snip)
Let’s start when they were born: Sanders was born 1941, Hillary was born 1947. So, 1965 Sanders was 24, Clinton was 18. Sanders graduated from the University of Chicago 1964, Clinton graduated from Wellsesley 1969.
...
read the rest
https://medium.com/breaking-down-onanti-hillary-meme-at-a-time/clinton-and-sanders-the-60-s-and-70-s-beyond-the-memes-159c3261c24d#.tmtts5201
= new reply since forum marked as read
Hillary was out in the field registering poor Latino voters in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas back in 1972.
. . .
In 1972, when a young Hillary and Bill Clinton were working the ill-fated George McGovern campaign, she worked closely with well-respected union leader, Franklin Garcia, who took her under his wing as she helped register Latino voters in south Texas and along the Rio Grande Valley.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/hillary-clinton-has-deep-history-with-latinos-and-theres-not#.jdqM3ajE3
And what was Bernie, then in his 30s, doing in 1972? Writing this:
How about we look at another letter Bernie wrote in the 70's when he was decades ahead of Hillary in the fight for civil rights for lgbt people and RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR instead of being married to one:
Today’s Supreme Court decision was a monumental moment in American history, as it guaranteed the right for gays and lesbians to get married and established full marriage equality.
Many politicians offered their words of support, including President Obama and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.
Yet it is important to remember that Obama and Clinton both opposed marriage equality as late as early 2012. It is a testament to the work of thousands of activists over decades that the political class was pulled towards supporting equality.
There is however one prominent politician who did not wait so long to call for full gay equality: Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
In a letter he published in the early 1970’s, when he was a candidate for governor of Vermont from the Liberty Union Party, Sanders invoked freedom to call for the abolition of all laws related to homosexuality:
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/bernie-sanders-was-full-gay-equality-40-years-ago
First: no one claimed he was for "full marriage equality." in 1972, you deliberately misquoted the article.
And secondly: Bernie was correct - women do fantasize about being raped. Maybe you should do some homework instead of getting on your high horse and acting like fantasies are immoral. You have no right to pass judgement on what consenting adults think or do.
In fact you seem like just the kind of person Bernie had in mind when he talked about abolishing prudish laws restricting what adults can do in the bedroom.
So your attempt to rewrite the article and paint him as some kind of deviant is a straw man and completely irrelevant to what the author ACTUALLY wrote.
I'll post the letter for you again since you obviously didn't bother to read it the first time:
"Full gay equality" would have to include marriage equality, which you admit he did not call for at the time. So he clearly did not believe in "full gay equality."
And no, rape is rape. It is not something women secretly wish was happening to them. It is way too late in the night to be having this creepy conversation with you.
I'm signing off.
He was referring to consensual sex between adults.
He even SPECIFIED homosexuality and adultery in the letter.
Now you're making him out to be an advocate of rape - and even worse child rape - because he didn't think consenting adults should be jailed?
sorts of base smears -raw, unmitigated ugliness- against a guy who has done nothing but fight for working people and disadvantaged populations for his entire life.
Frankly, it's as disturbing as any of the real issues I have with Hillary's track record on things like the IWR.
The fact that she- and her supporters- want this deal that badly;
....speaking of "creepy". 
Thought police scare the hell out of me, telling women that their fantasies are creepy is authoritarian.
And yes, it looks like her supporters will say and do just about anything to win.
They've tried to justify Hillary's support for the Iraq war, the death penalty, draconian drug laws and now they're claiming Bernie advocates rape and pedophilia.
