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Botany

(70,490 posts)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:00 AM Sep 2012

Huffington Post has it 332 Obama to 191 Raw Money w/ N. Carolina as a toss up

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/romney-vs-obama-electoral-map

Have some fun and click on the states and see the latest state #s and in every
one except N. Dakota the President's #s are going up and Mitt's are going down.
Even in red states that will go to Romney the graphs show that Mitt's support is
taking. I know it is a long shot but Obama might get Indiana and Georgia too.

BTW WTF is wrong with Kentucky and West Virginia? Classic example of voting
against your own best interests.
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Huffington Post has it 332 Obama to 191 Raw Money w/ N. Carolina as a toss up (Original Post) Botany Sep 2012 OP
At least speaking for my family from West Virginia exboyfil Sep 2012 #1
It always kills me when the same bigots cheer for blacks when they are playing for .... Botany Sep 2012 #2
I have close relatives from both WV and KY... five_horizons Sep 2012 #3
I'll do my part to help Obama take Georgia johnlucas Sep 2012 #4
But I thought the election was a tie right now Doctor Jack Sep 2012 #5
'WTF is wrong with Kentucky and West Virginia' TroyD Sep 2012 #6
Racism? Sure - but not ONLY that dmallind Sep 2012 #7

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
1. At least speaking for my family from West Virginia
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:13 AM
Sep 2012

You may not have noticed that the president is black. They have. My family still uses the n word freely. Unfortunately you can't pick your relatives. I keep exposure to it to a minimum with my children (threaten to leave if we are visiting and the n word comes out).

Botany

(70,490 posts)
2. It always kills me when the same bigots cheer for blacks when they are playing for ....
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:24 AM
Sep 2012

... some college football or basketball team. (I live in northern Kentucky aka Ohio)

Also in many sections of Appalachia "pastors" poisons the minds of hundreds with
their very unchristian and unkind preaching and their family values.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
4. I'll do my part to help Obama take Georgia
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:54 AM
Sep 2012

I would LOVE for Obama to get one of these Deep South states!
These bastions of ol' school vintage racism.
It's only a matter of time before these Republican strongholds weaken.
John Lucas

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
6. 'WTF is wrong with Kentucky and West Virginia'
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:08 AM
Sep 2012

They may be winnable again down the road with a Democratic nominee that doesn't face as much prejudice.

Bill Clinton won both these states, so they have a Democratic base.

They're not as far gone as Idaho.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
7. Racism? Sure - but not ONLY that
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:04 AM
Sep 2012

Neither Gore nor Kerry had a sniff at either. Clinton did better though. All three are white, obviously.

The difference? While Clinton was the most intellectually gifted of the lot, he didn't come across that way. A shred of "city boy elitism" loses you states like those, black or white. Especially for Democrats who have the more effete and nerdy image overall.

There are obviously many very intelligent voters in both KY and WV. But on the whole if you come across as being remotely sophisticated, intellectual, patrician or even cosmopolitan as a Democrat there, you'll lose. Because there's a whole lot of dumb and proud of it voters there too.

So if we hope to take them in 2016 we'd be better looking to the Schweitzers of the world rather than the Clintons or Warrens as a candidate.

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