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hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:00 AM Jan 2016

Hillary's New Children Ad Sure Pulls On My Heartstrings!

It really does. It brings to mind the rough times my sister had while raising my niece and nephew and all the help she got.

It reminds me that in order to qualify for her Pell grants which helped her to get her BS in Nursing, she had to remain on public assistance. It reminds me of the state pushing her to abandon school and a potential career to accept the bartender's and waitress' wages to get off the public dole.

It reminds me of the state confiscating child support payments in order to 'recoup' what they paid to her in benefits, except the child support they took was more than what was paid to her in benefits. That was all made possible by the Welfare reform that Hillary advocated to help my sister move into a more dignified life and help families or some such.

It reminds me that the nation almost lost a skilled ER nurse who was there when the ambulances arrived with heart attack patients, trauma patients, sick babies and the families worried sick that the treatment might not work, worried sick about how the bills would be paid.

Most of all, it reminds me that it matters whom we nominate. Their judgement matters. Their priorities matter.

It reminds me that I need someone who is actually on my side in the White House. Now more than ever, it matters.

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Hillary's New Children Ad Sure Pulls On My Heartstrings! (Original Post) hootinholler Jan 2016 OP
Beautifully stated! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #1
Thank you for the kind words. hootinholler Jan 2016 #4
Well, yeah, depending on your age. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #16
because of clinton's disastrous welfare reform questionseverything Jan 2016 #29
Exactly peacebird Jan 2016 #2
K & R Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #3
It left me cold. It was more about Hillary than children cali Jan 2016 #5
It was more about Hillary than children AlbertCat Jan 2016 #10
Completely!!!! TxGrandpa Jan 2016 #18
Your sixth sense was correct...nt tex-wyo-dem Jan 2016 #11
K&R Mbrow Jan 2016 #6
Thanks for the post. Hillary has shown flawed judgement too many times. jalan48 Jan 2016 #7
Wanting to win, rather than govern. Yes, I believe that is correct SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #19
This is infuriating and sickening. Reminds me of the woman who CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #8
Bernie has demonstrated over his long... tex-wyo-dem Jan 2016 #14
And welfare "deform" is STILL putting intolerable stresses on poor mothers bread_and_roses Jan 2016 #9
Wonder how many of the millenials supporting Bernie so strongly are the children who were victimized Gmak Jan 2016 #23
Probably not many - that kind of poverty & stress is poisonous to children bread_and_roses Jan 2016 #25
That advertisement was about children? Autumn Jan 2016 #12
Well said angrychair Jan 2016 #13
Great post! TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #15
Does it mention how her husband's admin gutted programs for the poor children? 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #17
Yeah, her touting of her family values always makes me remember that she opposed my right to make Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #20
Did she include all the child victims of cluster bombing she voted in favor of? Divernan Jan 2016 #21
I did not have a Clinton supporter defend the cluster bombing and horrors resulting from it Dragonfli Jan 2016 #27
I still remember my neighbor, a former social worker of 30+ years, fuming and sick at heart Gmak Jan 2016 #22
K & R SoapBox Jan 2016 #24
Thank you for that post Jarqui Jan 2016 #26
Sincere thanks for sharing this, hootinholler demwing Jan 2016 #28
I am glad to see you supporting Hillary Clinton. Thank you for the moving and heartwarming post. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #30
Thanks for the kind words hootinholler Jan 2016 #31

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
4. Thank you for the kind words.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:16 AM
Jan 2016

I don't think he's our last hope, but right now I think he's our best hope.

questionseverything

(9,646 posts)
29. because of clinton's disastrous welfare reform
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jan 2016

in illinois if you are desperate for cash assistance and do not qualify for a medical exemption

you have to volunteer 30 hours a week for a 379 buck benefit per month...less than 4 bucks an hour

not to mention the planning/time it takes to get the kids to childcare,the trip to the "volunteer" place

plus it really cut down on who could get subsidized housing...any previous drug conviction and you are out

since most the manufacturing jobs have gone overseas, we have no choice but to transition to a new economy which is going to include more service related jobs so we need the safety net now more than ever

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
10. It was more about Hillary than children
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jan 2016

Children, like animals, are unreliable props. You need a handler on the set.

jalan48

(13,855 posts)
7. Thanks for the post. Hillary has shown flawed judgement too many times.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:36 AM
Jan 2016

My guess is that it's due to her wanting to win, rather than govern.

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
8. This is infuriating and sickening. Reminds me of the woman who
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie hugged the other day. No, Hillary is not on our side, never has been and never will be. And that's why I'm also for Bernie, he is and always has been on my side and I'd never have to worry about what he'd do for a vote.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
14. Bernie has demonstrated over his long...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jan 2016

Political life that he does support us. He's a human being who truly cares about other human beings and will do everything in his power to improve the lives of people.

He understands that by helping those in need, it strengthens the individual, strengthens families and strengthens the broader society in general, which pays back in dividends for generations.

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
9. And welfare "deform" is STILL putting intolerable stresses on poor mothers
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jan 2016

It is unforgivable - I teared up reading your post, thinking of mothers I'd worked with back then AND of people I know right now struggling with that punitive, barbarous system instituted by Clinton. It was bad before - it was FAR worse after. And the burdens put on their children.

This: "It reminds me of the state pushing her to abandon school and a potential career to accept the bartender's and waitress' wages to get off the public dole."

That still goes on. I'm glad she managed to get her degree.

Gmak

(88 posts)
23. Wonder how many of the millenials supporting Bernie so strongly are the children who were victimized
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jan 2016

by the Clintons' so-called welfare reforms.

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
25. Probably not many - that kind of poverty & stress is poisonous to children
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jan 2016

I honestly doubt that many were able to recover from it. Poverty really is poisonous to children and families. And the constant uncertainty - often wondering if there'd even be food on the table. The fear of the power going off. The parents too stressed and burdened to really take time. Never getting to take your kids to the museum, or the "events" that cost a few bucks. No extra lessons. Getting tagged as one of the "poor kids" from a "dysfunctional family" at school. On and on.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. Yeah, her touting of her family values always makes me remember that she opposed my right to make
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jan 2016

a family equal to hers. She opposed others having those rights but she still exploits her own status as grandmother as if that was a political qualification. A qualification she helped deny to me and millions of others because of her religion, according to her.
So sure, she cares about some people's families. Just not mine. That is long established fact.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
21. Did she include all the child victims of cluster bombing she voted in favor of?
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016

You'll never see even the most rabid Clinton supporter post in defense or excuse for Hillary's pro-cluster bomb vote. The death and maiming resulting from that vote has spread its deadly shadow for the last ten years. Love to see Abuela Hillary put in a locked room with 10 grandmothers of children maimed or killed by these bombs. Shout your way out of that situation, Hillary.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/03/13/cluster-bombs-are-not-good-children-hillary

In her autobiography, Living History, Senator Hillary Clinton portrays herself as an advocate for children, a defender of women and human rights. In fact, the Clintons have a long history of sacrificing the rights, even the lives of children, for political expediency. It is time to set the record straight.

On September 6, 2006, a Senate bill--a simple amendment to ban the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas--presented Senator Clinton with a timely opportunity to protect the lives of children throughout the world.

The cluster bomb is one of the most hated and heinous weapons in modern war, and its primary victims are children.

Senator Obama voted for the amendment to ban cluster bombs. Senator Clinton, however, voted with the Republicans to kill the humanitarian bill, an amendment in accord with the Geneva Conventions, which already prohibit the use of indiscriminate weapons in populated areas.

All senators are expected to inform themselves on the issues before they cast a vote. The evidence is overwhelming. It is hard to believe that Senator Clinton was unaware of the humanitarian crisis when she voted to continue the use of cluster bombs in cities and populated areas. A U.N. weapons commission called cluster bombs "weapons of indiscriminate effect." For years the international press reported the horrific consequences of cluster bombs on civilians. On April 10, 2003, for example, Asia Times described the carnage in Baghdad hospitals: "The absolute majority of patients are women and children, victims of shrapnel, and most of all, fragments of cluster bombs." Reporting from a hospital in Hillah, The Mirror, a British newspaper, became graphic: "Shrapnel peppered their bodies. Blackened the skin. Smashed heads. Tore limbs. A doctor reports that 'all the injuries you see were caused by cluster bombs. The majority of the victims were children who died because they were outside.'"

Even after wars subside, after treaties are signed, after belligerents return home, cluster bombs wreak havoc on civilian life. Up to 20 percent of the bomblets fail to detonate on the first round, only to become landmines that later explode on playgrounds and farmlands. Children are drawn to cluster bomb canisters, the deadly duds that look like beer cans or toys before they explode.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
27. I did not have a Clinton supporter defend the cluster bombing and horrors resulting from it
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jan 2016

But one did become quite angry with me saying "I will never forgive or forget you for posting such vile excrement about a great Woman"

I tried responding with the fact that it was true, but was called a liar, even after posting the proof. I believe the defense regarding dead and maimed brown children connected to many of her decisions is simply to pretend either none of it happened or perhaps because they were brown such children do not count; not sure which.

Gmak

(88 posts)
22. I still remember my neighbor, a former social worker of 30+ years, fuming and sick at heart
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jan 2016

at the injustice and cruelty of the so-called 'welfare reform' the Clintons pushed through, which was nothing more than a sop to the crazies who still raved on about Welfare Queens, years after RR popularized the term. We all know that it was code for too many black people are getting help.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
28. Sincere thanks for sharing this, hootinholler
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jan 2016

"It reminds me that I need someone who is actually on my side in the White House."

Amen to that

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
31. Thanks for the kind words
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jan 2016

While I think you may be confused about whom I support, I am happy that you appreciate my sister's struggles.

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