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democrank

(11,082 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:31 PM Jan 2016

A gargantuan elephant in the room is that Iraq War vote

where the old "experience" argument, as it related to the "YES" votes, went from meaningless to apocalyptic. Many of us won`t live long enough to see the final results of that disastrous vote, the "Shock and Awe" campaign the hawks were so proud of. Back then, a YES vote, coupled with a made-in-China flag pin, and you were an automatic patriot.

That YES vote has cost this country dearly. Go sit in any waiting room of any VA hospital and the results of that vote will smack you right in the face. It won`t be so easy for you to say how worth it the multiple deployments were, the lives lost or maimed, the money spent, the principles sacrificed. You`ll learn about hopping on one foot, or riding because of no feet, you`ll see young men and women tremble, struggle, cry, fight back anger. You`ll see family members devastated by the physical, emotional and financial costs.

Today`s Washington mood includes familiar taunts about experience, about weakness, about making the sands glow, about carpet bombing. Similar also are the warnings about "them", "those others", folks we need to see as our enemy.

For me, this election is, in part, about helping every last veteran who needs help and insisting that our political "leaders" take immediate and permanent responsibility for each and every life their vote impacted. My dream is that every person in Congress who votes YES for war be required to go to the front lines or send a family member to do so.

I`ll vote judgement over experience any day.

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A gargantuan elephant in the room is that Iraq War vote (Original Post) democrank Jan 2016 OP
K&R..... daleanime Jan 2016 #1
Massive k/r from me VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #2
(IMO) Her position that we should have a No Fly Zone in Syria is just as bad Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #3
Excellent post Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #4
Everyone knows the naive young lady from flyover country was fooled by Dubya's vast intellect Fumesucker Jan 2016 #6
She did not only vote, though the vote was bad enough. She advocated for that war, helping Bushco merrily Jan 2016 #5
K and R! Dems to Win Jan 2016 #7

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
2. Massive k/r from me
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jan 2016

I've said it before, and I'll say it again-- Hillary is a neocon of the highest order. Her actions regarding Iraq, Syria, and Libya paint a better picture than any one of her twittering sycophants possibly could. And if neoconservatism is the future of the democratic party, it is a party I'm better off leaving.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
3. (IMO) Her position that we should have a No Fly Zone in Syria is just as bad
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jan 2016

It proves that her judgement has not improved any.


As far as foreign policy is concerned, she seems to be our version of John McCain. I honestly can't think of any military conflict that she has not supported.

How sad is that?



merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. She did not only vote, though the vote was bad enough. She advocated for that war, helping Bushco
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jan 2016

sell that war to Americans, especially Democratic Americans.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12776532

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
7. K and R!
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jan 2016

I'm still disgusted that the Dem Establishment has thrown the anti-war activists and Occupy Wall Street activists under the bus by lining up behind Hillary.

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