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OMG--Live now. Clinton has Iowa rally in a bowling alley. Less than 150 there. (Original Post) CoffeeCat Jan 2016 OP
... closeupready Jan 2016 #1
I have worked several campaigns over the years.... FarPoint Jan 2016 #76
I have no problem with the choice of venue, mind you. closeupready Jan 2016 #84
My point is that this is common and realistic in Iowa. FarPoint Jan 2016 #87
Bowling for Hillary? Kip Humphrey Jan 2016 #2
Hillary is there to ask, Iowans can you "spare" me your caucus vote? CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #5
Ha!! HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #12
Hillary is clearly out of her league. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #23
You're splitting my sides!! HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #25
I like the way you frame that! Fawke Em Jan 2016 #28
I've got nothing... HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #34
I have to face it.... daleanime Jan 2016 #54
keep these comments out of the gutter. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #86
Footage coming in now.... Segami Jan 2016 #66
lol thanks for the laugh lasttrip Jan 2016 #79
You "strike" me as a very clever person. virgogal Jan 2016 #58
With such a low turn out the Clinton campaign will INdemo Jan 2016 #71
Just because they don't go to rallies, doesn't mean they don't vote. cali Jan 2016 #3
That's true, plenty of people who will caucus CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #6
Considering 250K vote in Iowa caucus yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #81
Iowans don't consider it grueling CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #88
I heard its up to five hours yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #89
No, its actually five days straight and we're forced to Jazzercize CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #91
LMAO! Fawke Em Jan 2016 #92
It's why... DUbeornot2be Jan 2016 #10
I'm sorry Madam Mossfern Jan 2016 #4
LIVE VIDEO: Hillary Clinton in Adel So Exciting!! RiverLover Jan 2016 #7
It is pretty cool that they have a live feed CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #11
Pretty decent fiction. RiverLover Jan 2016 #94
If it was held in New England olddots Jan 2016 #8
Riviting... demwing Jan 2016 #9
So... DUbeornot2be Jan 2016 #16
it even looks a bit like it was blue-screened demwing Jan 2016 #24
Well... DUbeornot2be Jan 2016 #32
I can't see the crowd but it sound pretty small. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #13
LOL! (nt) CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #29
Adel, IA - Population ~3600 MineralMan Jan 2016 #14
Adel is 20 minutes from Des Moines CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #21
and furthermore, Sanders had a rally in Deborah, Iowa on Monday CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #27
Bernie went to a town of 8,000 and got a crowd of 2,000. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #22
. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #26
And as I mentioned earlier... CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #30
Bernie Sanders Attracts 2,000 at Rally in Iowa Town of 8,000 AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #64
Same low turnout in Iowa City recently. progressoid Jan 2016 #85
She just said that we need to stop all of the gimmickry that corporations play CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #15
How? Telling them to 'knock it off'? Ooo. What gravitas. closeupready Jan 2016 #18
No silly, she told them to "cut it out". I don't know which one will cause more panic from libdem4life Jan 2016 #59
I thought she told them to "cut the check" my bad /nt Dragonfli Jan 2016 #78
Now that one ... well, that they did for sure...all 6 figures of it. She certainly didn't tell libdem4life Jan 2016 #80
What an extremely obvious attempt to try to look like one of the regular people. 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #17
Which accent did she choose for this event? Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #40
It must be small. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #19
And it isn't even Shabbos DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #20
She's lecturing people in a bowling alley demwing Jan 2016 #31
Fin! They interrupted her speech for the news. CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #35
I hear... DUbeornot2be Jan 2016 #37
Actually, they only had 150 pairs of bowling shoes demwing Jan 2016 #43
Something... DUbeornot2be Jan 2016 #56
And we're back to disucssing her hair and her clothes now, are we? synergie Jan 2016 #38
Nope, her money. Catch up. demwing Jan 2016 #42
So it's not about her policies after all, just her bank accoutn and her hair and clothes. Got it. synergie Jan 2016 #46
That's why we must Avoid At All Costs speaking of the "Fringe" Candidate. libdem4life Jan 2016 #62
Honesty IS a policy (the best policy, right?) demwing Jan 2016 #63
That was about her money but if Bernie's hair is on the table 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #60
Two great minds...one thought. And his clothes...how many times have we heard about libdem4life Jan 2016 #65
Hillary refers to herself as a "Hair Icon" and a "Pantsuit Aficionado" demwing Jan 2016 #68
GUTTER BALL!!!!!!!!!!! pinebox Jan 2016 #33
LOL farleftlib Jan 2016 #67
Mikey says....thank you for bumping me off the #1 spot! Segami Jan 2016 #72
And your point is what exactly? What is the maximum occupancy of bowling allies synergie Jan 2016 #36
That would be fine if they were turning people away at the door DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #41
So where are you getting your information from with regard to the numbers and who was being synergie Jan 2016 #44
You brought up the capacity of the venue, not me DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #53
And you guys brought up the 150, I merely wondered why you make the numbers an issues synergie Jan 2016 #61
The only assertion I would make DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #75
I find it very interesting CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #47
Because tiny towns in Iowa have large populations and large venues? It's not unusual in IOWA. synergie Jan 2016 #49
She's speaking in Adel, Iowa--I'm sure there are schools, community centers CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #69
"breathless hysteria" ??? demwing Jan 2016 #50
Yes, the "OMG" rather denotes breathless hysteria. No hyperbole required. synergie Jan 2016 #57
You're seeing what you want to see demwing Jan 2016 #70
I am sorry, but we are in trouble if she sings. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #39
What does that even mean? blue neen Jan 2016 #48
Josie and the Pussycats started out their career in a bowling alley they became quite popular. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #55
Sure. blue neen Jan 2016 #74
Headline from 2008: Obama Bowls for Pennsylvania Voters blue neen Jan 2016 #45
More like 1%, number that makes her feel great. Is a feeling of belonging to a specific group. Yupy Jan 2016 #51
Is this a problem? Orsino Jan 2016 #52
Next thing you know she'll be in a diner nt firebrand80 Jan 2016 #90
150? A BOWLING ALLEY? in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #73
Sorry, but HAD to share this Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #77
This place is getting out of control ... OMG ...LMAO libdem4life Jan 2016 #83
So big deal that she's holding a gathering in bowling alley FloridaBlues Jan 2016 #82
You have to wonder why so few people want to see her Bernblu Jan 2016 #93
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
1. ...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:31 PM
Jan 2016
!

You know to be fair, I like what she CLAIMS she wants to do, but I know that she's just parroting things she thinks will get her elected, but once she takes office, everything is up for the highest bidder.

FarPoint

(12,274 posts)
76. I have worked several campaigns over the years....
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jan 2016

In Iowa, this is a very common venue style. It is also a reflection of the actual Caucus style....I worked in De Moises for Howard Dean back in the day....So, this is good.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
84. I have no problem with the choice of venue, mind you.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jan 2016

It's the small gathering that gave me a chuckle. Yes, it is rural Iowa, but still, if she inspired people or generated enthusiasm, you'd think more would turn up. Cheers.

FarPoint

(12,274 posts)
87. My point is that this is common and realistic in Iowa.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jan 2016

Mirrors the Caucus process of this state.... This is the Iowa style....I like the intimate style with group discussion that the Caucus utilizes.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
71. With such a low turn out the Clinton campaign will
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jan 2016

probably claim it was just the mid-day bowling league.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. That's true, plenty of people who will caucus
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jan 2016

won't attend a rally.

However, rally size is a clear indicator of enthusiasm--which is essential in the Iowa caucuses. Not just for turnout, but for the dynamics that will happen at the caucuses.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
81. Considering 250K vote in Iowa caucus
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jan 2016

She just needs to hope she's getting the ones who will attend the grueling evening.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
88. Iowans don't consider it grueling
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jan 2016

to spent an hour to an hour-and-a-half helping the nation to pick the Democratic nominee.

It's a really good time and it's transparent democracy. Votes are counted by a show of hand.

Iowans are excited about the caucuses.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
91. No, its actually five days straight and we're forced to Jazzercize
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jan 2016

through the entire process while wearing Teletubbies costumes.

Oh brother.

DU is getting loony tunes.

I've been to several Iowa caucuses. Never spent more than an hour and a half. And I'm in a very big precinct. 70 percent of Iowa's precincts are in rural areas with smaller populations. Those people will be in and out within an hour; some within a half hour.

But go on...tell us how "grueling" and torturous the entire process is.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
92. LMAO!
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:43 PM
Jan 2016

My son asked me why people still caucus this morning. I told him I had no idea. I'm gonna tell him what you said. Thanks!

DUbeornot2be

(367 posts)
10. It's why...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jan 2016

...I'm giddy at the thought of all the lazy Sanders voters who will only show up for the actual vote and simply can't be bothered right now... like most of Hillary's supposed supporters.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
7. LIVE VIDEO: Hillary Clinton in Adel So Exciting!!
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jan 2016

Thanks for sharing.

Looks like 80 people or so. Talking about trickle down economics, ignoring that her husband has played a huge role in our current trickle down society.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
11. It is pretty cool that they have a live feed
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jan 2016

of these events. This is the same speech that she gave in Des Moines, and it's actually pretty decent.

I really hope that no one wants to bowl though. Bowling is noisy.

DUbeornot2be

(367 posts)
16. So...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jan 2016

...the whole folksy bowling alley meeting with the working folk sounds like another gutter ball from camp weathervane...

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
24. it even looks a bit like it was blue-screened
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jan 2016

like they couldn't find an actual bowling alley, so they shopped it

DUbeornot2be

(367 posts)
32. Well...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jan 2016

...she certainly seems to be trying to come across as angry at the corporate establishment. Now I see why they chose bowling alley visual... She's just one of us!

She's trying more and more to be like Bernie.

I'm not as worried as I used to be...!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
21. Adel is 20 minutes from Des Moines
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jan 2016

and Des Moines is the biggest city in Iowa. Most people who live in Adel, work in Des Moines.

Adel is not an island.

Adel is also surrounded by other small cities. It's ten minutes from Waukee, a very upper-middle class suburb. Hillary has an office in Waukee.

She should have had a bigger audience than 80, especially 5 days before the Iowa caucuses.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
26. .
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jan 2016

Do the math, she should have gotten around 800 to keep pace


http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-iowa-rally-brings-out-2000-people-in-town-of-8000/

^snip^


Bernie Sanders Attracts 2,000 at Rally in Iowa Town of 8,000
Amanda Girard | January 25, 2016

Sunday night, in the small Iowa town of Decorah, Bernie Sanders obliterated the myth that his views are outside the mainstream.

The rally is one of Sanders’ biggest yet in the Hawkeye State, with just a week to go until the Iowa caucuses. The Vermont senator has been steadily building up his polling numbers since the start of 2016 — his campaign announced its first-ever lead in the state earlier this month, and now holds an 8-point lead over his nearest rival, Hillary Clinton, according to CNN/ORC polling numbers.





CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
30. And as I mentioned earlier...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:56 PM
Jan 2016

Adel isn't an island. Hillary has an office 10 minutes away in Waukee, which is a Des Moines suburb that has a population of 20,000.

progressoid

(49,917 posts)
85. Same low turnout in Iowa City recently.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jan 2016

over 150K in that area. My daughters keep track of the candidates coming through the campus. Turn out was dismal.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
15. She just said that we need to stop all of the gimmickry that corporations play
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jan 2016

OMG...how can she say that with a straight face?

She's on their payroll.

This is fascinating.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
59. No silly, she told them to "cut it out". I don't know which one will cause more panic from
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:22 PM
Jan 2016

the banksters. My guess...neither.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
80. Now that one ... well, that they did for sure...all 6 figures of it. She certainly didn't tell
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:52 PM
Jan 2016

them to "cut that out".

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
17. What an extremely obvious attempt to try to look like one of the regular people.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Totally hilarious. Is she rolling up her sleeves yet?

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
19. It must be small.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jan 2016

Bowling alleys echo and I'm not hearing the thunder you'd expect from a group even as small as that.

Can you say, "No enthusiasm?"

I knew that you could.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
31. She's lecturing people in a bowling alley
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jan 2016

about how she'll stand up to big money influences.

Yet her suit and haircut together would surely cost what some of these folks make in a month.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
35. Fin! They interrupted her speech for the news.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:02 PM
Jan 2016

It was fun while it lasted.

It wasn't a bad speech, but oh, the crowd size is painful.

I think it's important for those outside of Iowa to see what's really happening.

Sanders supporters, I think you can feel good about the caucuses on Monday--for a multitude of reasons.

DUbeornot2be

(367 posts)
37. I hear...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jan 2016

...there's actually an overflow crowd of thousands who couldn't get in because they had just oiled the lanes...

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
42. Nope, her money. Catch up.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:12 PM
Jan 2016

Are her hair and clothes off-limits? Somebody better tell Hillary!

Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Wife, mom, grandma, women+kids advocate, FLOTUS,
Senator, SecState, hair icon, pantsuit aficionado, 2016
presidential candidate. Tweets from Hillary signed –H

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
46. So it's not about her policies after all, just her bank accoutn and her hair and clothes. Got it.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jan 2016

It's no wonder why you rely on the right wing talking points.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
62. That's why we must Avoid At All Costs speaking of the "Fringe" Candidate.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jan 2016

Making fun of baldness is .... oh hell, Bernie doesn't care.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
63. Honesty IS a policy (the best policy, right?)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jan 2016

Lecturing the middle class that SHE, not Bernie, will be their protector is disingenuous. She's a multimillionaire who got rich from her cozy relationships with the very banks she claims she'll regulate.

If you buy that, you'll buy anything.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
60. That was about her money but if Bernie's hair is on the table
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jan 2016

Her hair and overpriced tacky suits most certainly are fair game.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
65. Two great minds...one thought. And his clothes...how many times have we heard about
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jan 2016

his "disheveled" look, same suit, etc. Heck, that's why people love him...he's just plain old, half-bald Bernie in a department store suit. Maybe he has a couple, three.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
68. Hillary refers to herself as a "Hair Icon" and a "Pantsuit Aficionado"
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary put the hair and the clothes on the table (bad imagery), so who are they to say it's off limits?

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
36. And your point is what exactly? What is the maximum occupancy of bowling allies
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:02 PM
Jan 2016

in very small towns where you come from?

The breathless hysteria over numbers with zero context is kind of amusing.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
41. That would be fine if they were turning people away at the door
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jan 2016

because the bowling alley was at capacity. If that's the case she probably should have chosen a bigger venue, but you and I both know that that is not the case.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
44. So where are you getting your information from with regard to the numbers and who was being
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

turned away, in a tiny town with a population of 4,000 on a Wednesday afternoon?

I don't know what you "know", since most of it seems to be based on assumptions and no actual knowledge.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
53. You brought up the capacity of the venue, not me
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jan 2016

I simply pointed out that the capacity of the venue would only be relevant to the size of the crowd if, in fact, they were turning people away at the door. I've seen no evidence that that is the case.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
61. And you guys brought up the 150, I merely wondered why you make the numbers an issues
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jan 2016

when there isn't anything to back up the 150 and bowling alleys aren't exactly built for large capacities.

Since you brought up the whole "turning people" away thing, what do you have to back that up? I've seen no evidence to support either scenario, but you seem to be convinced that your assumption is correct, upon which do you base you conclusion, when you admit you've seen no evidence, but still cling to your assertion?

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
75. The only assertion I would make
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jan 2016

is that if, in fact, the campaign was turning people away at the door that would have been reported. The fact that it was not leads me to believe they were not. I never claimed to have "evidence". To the contrary, the lack of evidence leads me to believe that people were not turned away. And, yet again, unless they were turning people away your argument about the capacity of the building is pointless.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
47. I find it very interesting
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jan 2016

that she is holding events in such small venues and drawing crowds of less than 100.

This is the week before the caucuses. It's unusual.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
69. She's speaking in Adel, Iowa--I'm sure there are schools, community centers
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jan 2016

that have bigger capacity. And Adel isn't a standalone town surrounded by nothing for miles. Des Moines, the biggest city in Iowa is within 20 minutes. Hillary has an office ten minutes down the road in Waukee, that has a population of just under 20,000. Lots of small towns/suburbs right there.

It is unusual, five days before the caucuses, to have a rally that has under 100 attending. After I posted there was a good shot of the audience. As someone else said, maybe 80 people were there.

Who knows...maybe this is the strategy that she is taking in the final days.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
48. What does that even mean?
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jan 2016

It seems that you are implying something that is very rude and disrespectful, no matter who the candidate.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
45. Headline from 2008: Obama Bowls for Pennsylvania Voters
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jan 2016

"ALTOONA, Pa. — While Democrats increasingly worry about winning ugly, Barack Obama was losing gracefully at a bowling lane in this central Pennsylvania city. He had better luck Sunday during a visit to a dairy farm, winning over a month-old calf with a fresh bottle of milk."

"My economic plan is better than my bowling," Obama told fellow bowlers Saturday evening at the Pleasant Valley Recreation Center."

"It has to be," a man called out."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/30/obama-bowling-for-voters-_n_94097.html

As I recall, the bowling trip was well-received at the time.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
73. 150? A BOWLING ALLEY?
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:35 PM
Jan 2016


And Bernie in a venue with 20,000...TWENTY THOUSAND! Did the corrupt corporate owned MSM show Bernie's rally last night?

Go Bernie!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

FloridaBlues

(4,002 posts)
82. So big deal that she's holding a gathering in bowling alley
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jan 2016

Seriously ...don't worry about it
she does smaller venues and guess what people actually get one on on time with the future president.
Standing and shouting at a larger groups isn't her thing no big deal.

Bernblu

(441 posts)
93. You have to wonder why so few people want to see her
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:52 PM
Jan 2016

She's Hillary Clinton, former first lady and possibly the first woman president. You would think just out of curiosity she would be a draw. It makes me wonder what kind of a turnout she will get. I guess we'll see on Monday.

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