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ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:01 PM Jan 2016

Hillary Clinton attacks Todd Ricketts super PAC over Sanders ad

The ESAFund ad accuses Sanders of begin for things Republicans may be against which appeal to many Democrats. The spot says Sanders wants to provide “free tuition” to college, “Medicare for all,” paid for by raising taxes on Wall Street and the “super-rich.” The tag line is “Bernie Sanders, too liberal for Iowa,” with the spot a summary of Sanders platform – a plus, not a minus among Democrats who may still be undecided in the close Sanders/Clinton contest.

At the Adel Family Fun Center, a bowling alley in this small town about 30 miles from Des Moines, Clinton took note of the Ricketts move – saying it was really an attempt to help, not hurt Sanders. About 300 people were at the event.

“And then just the other day, another billionaire, called Joe Ricketts puts up an ad to try to really muddy the waters to confuse Democrats about who has the toughest, most comprehensive plan,” Clinton said, referring to her Wall Street reform plans.

“I got to tell you. I do find this perversely flattering. But I also find it very instructive. Because if they weren’t afraid of me, they would be just sitting back just hoping I would get nominated. …They know me. They know I saw what I mean. I mean to do what I say.”


More at http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1283025/hillary-clinton-attacks-todd-ricketts-super-pac-sanders-ad
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Hillary Clinton attacks Todd Ricketts super PAC over Sanders ad (Original Post) ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 OP
What? All he did was pull a Faux pas Jan 2016 #1
I am so confused. Was that a pro-Bernie ad and is Hillary against it or for it? nt thereismore Jan 2016 #2
It is pro-Bernie Gothmog Jan 2016 #6
It is not pro-Bernie and it is nothing like the ads McCaskill ran cali Jan 2016 #13
You are wrong-this identical to the ads used by McCaskill to get Todd Akin to be the GOP nominee Gothmog Jan 2016 #15
Republicans Take Their Sanders Advocacy to the Next Level Gothmog Jan 2016 #16
It is an anti-Bernie ad. Iowa is an open primary. Intended to turn off certain Democrats Skwmom Jan 2016 #7
It was a pro Bernie ad designed to help Sanders do better Gothmog Jan 2016 #11
They wanted to face Obama in 08 as well. ram2008 Jan 2016 #18
"When the gods want to punish us they grant our prayers" kenfrequed Jan 2016 #19
lol Jefferson23 Jan 2016 #3
wehhhh frylock Jan 2016 #4
Anti-Sanders attack ad isn’t quite what it seems to be Gothmog Jan 2016 #5
Iowa is an OPEN Primary. The ad is to turn off certain types of voters. Skwmom Jan 2016 #9
First, Iowa is a caucus state and not a primary Gothmog Jan 2016 #12
Rachel Maddow discussed this ad last night Gothmog Jan 2016 #8
She's either a moron or a sell out. Skwmom Jan 2016 #10
Calling Maddow a moron is really sad but funny Gothmog Jan 2016 #14
I have met educated people dumb as a fence post and people that never went to college that are very Skwmom Jan 2016 #17
Plus a large sum. Perfect! Nt. Juicy_Bellows Jan 2016 #20
You are wrong again Gothmog Jan 2016 #23
This is like saying the sky is green, the sky is green, the sky is green. Skwmom Jan 2016 #24
And yet numerous third party sources all agree that this was an ad to help Sanders Gothmog Jan 2016 #25
These third party sources have a habit of spreading lies and distortions. Skwmom Jan 2016 #26
So everyone in the whole world is wrong but you? Gothmog Jan 2016 #27
Doesn't matter a whit kenfrequed Jan 2016 #21
The fact that Rove and the GOP may be wrong does not change the fact that they are supporting sander Gothmog Jan 2016 #22

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
6. It is pro-Bernie
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jan 2016

This is the same trick that Claire McCaskill used to select Todd Akin as her opponent in 2012. McCaskill ran ads that called Akin conservative and that helped Akin get the GOP nomination. McCaskill had no trouble defeating Akin

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
15. You are wrong-this identical to the ads used by McCaskill to get Todd Akin to be the GOP nominee
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jan 2016

The fact that McCaskill use this type of ad to great effect is a warning.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
16. Republicans Take Their Sanders Advocacy to the Next Level
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:48 PM
Jan 2016

This ad was designed to support Sanders just as McCaskill's ads against Todd Akin were designed to do http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-28/republicans-take-their-sanders-advocacy-to-the-next-level

Add Republican operatives to the list of strong Bernie Sanders supporters in the Democratic primary, along with progressive activists and young voters.

A super-PAC founded by Republican billionaire Joe Ricketts is making its first foray into the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, spending $600,000 on a television ad in Iowa calling Sanders "too liberal," according to The New York Times.

The ad then spotlights two of the policies that have helped fuel his rise in the Democratic primary—his calls for "completely free" college education and more taxes on Wall Street and the "super-rich."

"It's exactly the same thing we did with Todd Akin," said Caitlin Legacki, who served as communications director to Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill's during her successful campaign in 2012. "They're clearly trying to use the exact same playbook."

Four years ago, McCaskill spent nearly $1 million in TV ads calling Akin "too conservative" in an effort to promote him, rather than his two opponents. He won the primary, then McCaskill trounced him on Election Day.

"More than anything that should be a concern for Democrats, because you don't make those kinds of investments in support of a candidate from another party unless you believe there's a good reason for it," Legacki added.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
7. It is an anti-Bernie ad. Iowa is an open primary. Intended to turn off certain Democrats
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jan 2016

Independents and Republicans.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
11. It was a pro Bernie ad designed to help Sanders do better
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:36 PM
Jan 2016

The GOP has determined that it wants to face Sanders instead of Hillary. There is a pattern here

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
19. "When the gods want to punish us they grant our prayers"
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:36 AM
Jan 2016

The Republicans are pretty stupid if they think that Bernie is somehow easier to defeat.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
5. Anti-Sanders attack ad isn’t quite what it seems to be
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jan 2016

This so-called attack ad is really an ad designed to help Sanders. The fact that the Sanders supporters think that this is an attack ad and do not realize that the purpose of this ad is to help Sanders is amusing http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/anti-sanders-attack-ad-isnt-quite-what-it-seems-be

Republicans have made no secret of the fact that they’d prefer to run against Bernie Sanders in the general election. Whether or not their assumptions are correct is a separate question, but GOP officials, convinced that the senator would be easy to defeat, have gone out of their way to help Sanders in the Democratic race.....

At first blush, the move may seem encouraging to Sanders supporters. After all, if Republicans have gone from defending Sanders to attacking him, maybe it means GOP insiders are getting scared of the Vermont independent?

It’s a nice idea, but that’s not what’s going on here. In fact, far from an attack ad, this commercial, backed by a prominent Republican mega-donor, is the latest evidence of the GOP trying to help Sanders, not hurt him.

Indeed, in this case, it’s hardly even subtle. This commercial touts Sanders’ support for tuition-free college, single-payer health care, and higher taxes on the “super-rich.” It concludes that the senator is “too liberal,” which isn’t much of an insult in an ad directed towards liberal voters in Iowa.

In other words, we’re talking about a Republican mega-donor investing in a faux attack ad to help Sanders win because he sees Sanders as easy to beat in November.

It’s the mirror image of the tactic Sen. Claire McCaskill (D) used in the 2012 U.S. Senate race in Missouri, when she invested in ads intended to boost then-Rep. Todd Akin (R) in his primary race, with commercials touting his far-right positions and calling him “too conservative.” The point was to make Akin look better in the eyes of Missouri Republicans so he’d win the primary, making it easier for the incumbent Democrat to defeat him on Election Day.

This ad is just another example of the GOP trying to help Sanders become the nominee because the GOP knows that Sanders is the weaker candidate.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
12. First, Iowa is a caucus state and not a primary
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jan 2016

Second, this trick is a well established trick to try to motivate Sanders supports to vote for Sanders. The fact that you think that this is an attack ad is amusing to me

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
10. She's either a moron or a sell out.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jan 2016

Q. As American was going down the tubes what were you doing?
A. Helping it right along.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
14. Calling Maddow a moron is really sad but funny
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jan 2016

Do you want to compare educational accomplishments with her?

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
17. I have met educated people dumb as a fence post and people that never went to college that are very
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:20 AM
Jan 2016

smart. Degrees are not indicative of intelligence. The lack of analytical ability in this country boggles the mind. I've often wondered if it had something to do with the fact that we waited so long to ban lead paint in this country.

Bush went to Harvard. Wow, what an intellect he turned out to be....

But let's agree she's smart. In that case she is a sell out that wants to keep her high paying job. She won't be the first, she won't be the last.

Note: I've showed that ad to more than one person and they all agreed, it's anti Bernie.








Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
23. You are wrong again
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:27 AM
Jan 2016

Rachel Maddow is correct that the ad in question is an attempt by the GOP to help Sanders. The GOP knows that Sanders would be a weak general election candidate and the GOP fears Clinton. No republican fears Sanders.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
24. This is like saying the sky is green, the sky is green, the sky is green.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:30 PM
Jan 2016

But, no matter how many times this ridiculous comment is repeated, it does not make it true.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
25. And yet numerous third party sources all agree that this was an ad to help Sanders
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jan 2016

People who understand politics and saw this trick used by McCaskill all disagree with you.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
26. These third party sources have a habit of spreading lies and distortions.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jan 2016

That ad hurts Sanders. Amazing how the Democrats and Republicans are using the same line of attack against Sanders. But of course, their goal is to defeat Bernie.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
27. So everyone in the whole world is wrong but you?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jan 2016

The fact that you do not realize that this ad is helping Sanders amuses me

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
21. Doesn't matter a whit
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:41 AM
Jan 2016

They are idiots if they think Bernie is easier to defeat.

They don't want to fight Bernie, they want to take on a weakened Hillary. They think South Carolina will still somehow decide the election and that they are getting a little punch in early.

Odd though that this Republican ad dovetails with the CNN coverage of Bernie wanting to raise taxes.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
22. The fact that Rove and the GOP may be wrong does not change the fact that they are supporting sander
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:26 AM
Jan 2016

Rove is good at stealing elections and it would be dumb to let the GOP pull the same trick that McCaskill used on us

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