2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton attacks Todd Ricketts super PAC over Sanders ad
At the Adel Family Fun Center, a bowling alley in this small town about 30 miles from Des Moines, Clinton took note of the Ricketts move saying it was really an attempt to help, not hurt Sanders. About 300 people were at the event.
And then just the other day, another billionaire, called Joe Ricketts puts up an ad to try to really muddy the waters to confuse Democrats about who has the toughest, most comprehensive plan, Clinton said, referring to her Wall Street reform plans.
I got to tell you. I do find this perversely flattering. But I also find it very instructive. Because if they werent afraid of me, they would be just sitting back just hoping I would get nominated. They know me. They know I saw what I mean. I mean to do what I say.
More at http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1283025/hillary-clinton-attacks-todd-ricketts-super-pac-sanders-ad
Faux pas
(14,644 posts)Claire McCaskill. Lol no pity felt here.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Gothmog
(144,919 posts)This is the same trick that Claire McCaskill used to select Todd Akin as her opponent in 2012. McCaskill ran ads that called Akin conservative and that helped Akin get the GOP nomination. McCaskill had no trouble defeating Akin
cali
(114,904 posts)Gothmog
(144,919 posts)The fact that McCaskill use this type of ad to great effect is a warning.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)This ad was designed to support Sanders just as McCaskill's ads against Todd Akin were designed to do http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-28/republicans-take-their-sanders-advocacy-to-the-next-level
A super-PAC founded by Republican billionaire Joe Ricketts is making its first foray into the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, spending $600,000 on a television ad in Iowa calling Sanders "too liberal," according to The New York Times.
The ad then spotlights two of the policies that have helped fuel his rise in the Democratic primaryhis calls for "completely free" college education and more taxes on Wall Street and the "super-rich."
"It's exactly the same thing we did with Todd Akin," said Caitlin Legacki, who served as communications director to Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill's during her successful campaign in 2012. "They're clearly trying to use the exact same playbook."
Four years ago, McCaskill spent nearly $1 million in TV ads calling Akin "too conservative" in an effort to promote him, rather than his two opponents. He won the primary, then McCaskill trounced him on Election Day.
"More than anything that should be a concern for Democrats, because you don't make those kinds of investments in support of a candidate from another party unless you believe there's a good reason for it," Legacki added.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Independents and Republicans.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)The GOP has determined that it wants to face Sanders instead of Hillary. There is a pattern here
ram2008
(1,238 posts)Woops.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)The Republicans are pretty stupid if they think that Bernie is somehow easier to defeat.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Gothmog
(144,919 posts)This so-called attack ad is really an ad designed to help Sanders. The fact that the Sanders supporters think that this is an attack ad and do not realize that the purpose of this ad is to help Sanders is amusing http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/anti-sanders-attack-ad-isnt-quite-what-it-seems-be
At first blush, the move may seem encouraging to Sanders supporters. After all, if Republicans have gone from defending Sanders to attacking him, maybe it means GOP insiders are getting scared of the Vermont independent?
Its a nice idea, but thats not whats going on here. In fact, far from an attack ad, this commercial, backed by a prominent Republican mega-donor, is the latest evidence of the GOP trying to help Sanders, not hurt him.
Indeed, in this case, its hardly even subtle. This commercial touts Sanders support for tuition-free college, single-payer health care, and higher taxes on the super-rich. It concludes that the senator is too liberal, which isnt much of an insult in an ad directed towards liberal voters in Iowa.
In other words, were talking about a Republican mega-donor investing in a faux attack ad to help Sanders win because he sees Sanders as easy to beat in November.
Its the mirror image of the tactic Sen. Claire McCaskill (D) used in the 2012 U.S. Senate race in Missouri, when she invested in ads intended to boost then-Rep. Todd Akin (R) in his primary race, with commercials touting his far-right positions and calling him too conservative. The point was to make Akin look better in the eyes of Missouri Republicans so hed win the primary, making it easier for the incumbent Democrat to defeat him on Election Day.
This ad is just another example of the GOP trying to help Sanders become the nominee because the GOP knows that Sanders is the weaker candidate.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Second, this trick is a well established trick to try to motivate Sanders supports to vote for Sanders. The fact that you think that this is an attack ad is amusing to me
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Q. As American was going down the tubes what were you doing?
A. Helping it right along.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Do you want to compare educational accomplishments with her?
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)smart. Degrees are not indicative of intelligence. The lack of analytical ability in this country boggles the mind. I've often wondered if it had something to do with the fact that we waited so long to ban lead paint in this country.
Bush went to Harvard. Wow, what an intellect he turned out to be....
But let's agree she's smart. In that case she is a sell out that wants to keep her high paying job. She won't be the first, she won't be the last.
Note: I've showed that ad to more than one person and they all agreed, it's anti Bernie.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Rachel Maddow is correct that the ad in question is an attempt by the GOP to help Sanders. The GOP knows that Sanders would be a weak general election candidate and the GOP fears Clinton. No republican fears Sanders.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)But, no matter how many times this ridiculous comment is repeated, it does not make it true.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)People who understand politics and saw this trick used by McCaskill all disagree with you.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)That ad hurts Sanders. Amazing how the Democrats and Republicans are using the same line of attack against Sanders. But of course, their goal is to defeat Bernie.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)The fact that you do not realize that this ad is helping Sanders amuses me
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)They are idiots if they think Bernie is easier to defeat.
They don't want to fight Bernie, they want to take on a weakened Hillary. They think South Carolina will still somehow decide the election and that they are getting a little punch in early.
Odd though that this Republican ad dovetails with the CNN coverage of Bernie wanting to raise taxes.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Rove is good at stealing elections and it would be dumb to let the GOP pull the same trick that McCaskill used on us