Nothing illustrates more clearly that Hillary thought she'd stroll to the nomination

[cali]

than her desperate bid to break the debate rules that were tailored just for her and by her, with the help of her pal, Debbie.

Back then, Hillary wanted as few debates as possible, advocating for 4, but settling on six, with only 4 scheduled prior to the beginning of caucusing/voting.

I hope Bernie doesn't give in to her.

[morningfog]

1. Bernie has played it perfectly. It is up to DWS to give in. And she is not for this debate.

It's almost comical watching the knot being tied by HIllary and DWS. No, it is comical.

[JudyM]

14. He's A smart guy and circumstances are falling in place as he would have hoped.

He's had plenty of *experience* making progress patiently in congress.

[greiner3]

18. So Bernie learned 3D chess from the president!!!

[SammyWinstonJack]

25. Bernie has a better game.

[Proserpina]

29. Almost anyone (exception: Sarah Palin) does

[PatrynXX]

28. maybe

I'm sure we don't know everything turn it this way as Spock said Khan seems to have a 2 dimensional way of thinking

hmmmm

[RoccoR5955]

31. Nah, Bernie learned 3D chess

from Mr. Spock!

[asuhornets]

35. You are living in a fantasy world.

Bernie Sanders is not on the same level as a Hillary Clinton. He wins NH and Vermont-that is all

[AlbertCat]

38. He wins NH and Vermont-that is all

Oh look.... it's the "It's his homies" meme.... again.

[Kentonio]

66. Oh dear..

Someone hasn't seen an Iowa poll recently.

[morningfog]

40. Who are you? Where did say anything about results?

Check yourself bub. And try to stay on topic.

[asuhornets]

43. Who r u?

I will discuss what I want to discuss bub.

[morningfog]

44. Apparently. And with no guarantee of relevance

Or coherence.

[libdem4life]

51. New poster ... be kind. Welcome to DU...but you might want to read a bit more

before being too clever.

[morningfog]

52. Check their profile. They aren't new.

[frylock]

55. Must have been hibernating..

we'll probably see more and more coming out of deep freeze.

[merrily]

68. Yep. Second one this morning and the day is still very young.

[intersectionality]

74. As someone who has lurked and read for the past 10 years...

defending Bernie against the Hillbots has been the thing that drew me out. I wouldn't be so sure this person has the same issue I have - the infighting here is nuts. I was pretty young during 2008 and had never worked on elections, and I managed to cross a DU admin prior to the instituting of juries, which would have just had my post hidden (didn't violate TOS, just said something with a shit-eating grin). Since then I rarely post, preferring just to consume content. Once the crazy bans started happening during the BLM uproar, I realized that I probably need to be a more frequent poster.

The content on this site has become increasingly bland as the primary progresses and key personalities are banned, but it also means that fewer legitimate arguments (i.e. there is a distinct lack of diversity in posts as compared to July/August) are being made. If the banhammer doesn't stop, you can really only expect this to continue happening because these are folks backup accounts or they finally feel like the board is not crowded with people who know each other and are somewhat insular. So, why not join in since there is space for us now that the jury system has basically removed or driven away half of the major posters here? Hell, a good portion of the content that I consume on this board currently seems to be reposted from the alternative for the banned, which I don't feel like joining since I'm barely competent enough to keep up with content on a single site.

[JudyM]

59. 2011.

[Warren DeMontague]

63. you seem tense.

[Duckfan]

79. If you've missed the latest polls on Bernies numbers......

Then you can borrow these. You may need them.

[cali]

41. Hill has spent more time for a longer period in NH, than Bernie

And Vermont is very different politically and in some ways, culturally, than that state across the river.

[YOHABLO]

46. Oh you mean a Washington insider? Someone who caters to the oligarchs? Yeah that level?

[asuhornets]

48. Oligarchs?

Do you really think ordinary American voters talk that way?

[jalan48]

49. The educated ones do.

[merrily]

69. They do now.

[frylock]

54. See you on 3/2.

[Trajan]

58. Tens of thousands go to see Bernie at many campaign stops

The difference in public support is amazing

Hillary could only dream of having huge crowds of adoring supporters appear spontaneously, of their own accord ... Without getting paid to show up ...

Methinks you don't sense the huge change that's coming ... It won't be business as usual this time around ....

Bernie is going to stomp the field ...

Nothing like waking up and smelling that fresh, rich, dark and flavorful coffee ...

[rhett o rick]

61. You are correct that they aren't on the same level. HRC is on the level with her close friend

George Bush. When he asked her to betray her own party and join the Republicons in killing Iraqi's, she was more than happy to say yes. Between 500,000 and a million Iraqi's died because of that "mistake". And she has never shown any remorse or empathy for those that died. She is on a different level than Sen Sanders that saw thru the Republicon lies.

[John Poet]

70. No, Hillary is a lot deeper in the mud than Bernie is.

Not on the same level at all.

[Lordquinton]

84. Considering it used to be "Sanders can't win Iowa"

I like the way it's going.

[bigbrother05]

75. Imagine if the Democratic Socialist dared to violate the DNC rules

They would be calling for his expulsion from the primary. "See he never really was serious about joining the Party!"

The outsider always recognizes the nuances that those with insider privilege don't even notice.

[libdem4life]

2. Sometimes you just have to call it the Law of Unintended Consequences.

[whatchamacallit]

3. K&R n/t

[democrank]

4. Debbie must be getting a little nervous about that tiara she`s holding.

So much for velvet pillows.

[catnhatnh]

45. Yep-I'm bettin' she saw...

...what happened to Steve Harvey for crowning the wrong candidate....

[merrily]

71. Thread win. I am still reading the thread, but I'm betting this is it.

[YOHABLO]

47. Well she's obviously vying for a White House appointment. Perhaps Chief of Staff? Whatever. Boohoo

[Indepatriot]

5. Is there anything that the Clinton Clusterfuck Campaign cannot screw up?

God help us all if she makes it to the GE

[840high]

37. ..+1

[jeff47]

57. Losing. (nt)

[GoneFishin]

6. He'll abide by the debate rule. That's Bernie.

[CharlotteVale]

7. And Bernie is calling their twisted little bluff.

[Mnpaul]

39. That is why I like him

He played this perfectly. Your move DWS.

[thereismore]

8. Karma. nt

[pangaia]

9. And Hillary is the MORE EXPERIENCED one.

HA !!!!


Bernie knows his shit.
The guy is damn good at what he does, for a 74 year old.


I'm 72, I can say that... He sure is sharper than I am..

I would hate to be sitting across from him at a poker game.

[closeupready]

10. I just keep thinking about Christine Quinn's failure to more liberal Bill DiBlasio.

Lot of parallels between them.

[Punkingal]

11. Bernie has DWS twisting in the wind. I love it!

[retrowire]

12. Bernie's got no reason to give in to her now.

He obeyed their rules before when he wanted more debates, and mind you, they just came up with those rules because he and O'Malley were threatening to do an unsanctioned debate. Meanwhile Hillary smiled and said, "I'll do whatever the DNC is comfortable with."

Now that Hillary's chances are looking grave, Hillary wants to break the rules while Bernie continues to follow them. He didn't go against the DNC then, he's got no reason to try doing that now.

[A Simple Game]

16. I think Bernie has made it onto someones naughty list. n/t

[tex-wyo-dem]

32. Not to mention the whole "Data-gate" crap...

trying to pin Bernie as a cheater...a total set-up.

No, Sanders doesn't owe DWS anything.

[Odin2005]

13. The "town hall" BS showed that these extra debates are a ploy to discredit Bernie.

Look how Cuomo forced Sanders to explicitly say "I will raise taxes" so they could take it out of context to slam him with. It's a fucking set-up.

[SusanCalvin]

53. Yeah, it's only the out-of-context I worry about.

Taken in context, Bernie's positions always have solid explanations.

[frylock]

56. The town hall was nothing more than a vanity vehicle for Hillary..

to tell us how Obama thinks she is so super awesome, and then regale us with tales of those 11 harrowing hours before the drooling idiots on the Benghazi Select Committee.

[aidbo]

15. K&R

[Jefferson23]

17. I hope he does not give in, they made their bed............n/t

[Duckfan]

80. Bernie's campaign is much smarter than DWS

She can throw the kitchen sink and it will only make her more irrelevant.

[hopemountain]

19. she may become suddenly "ill"

and not show - leaving bernie and martin in the lurch to face expulsion by the dnc at the remaining debates.

[Duval]

20. I hope so, too. K&R

[litlbilly]

21. If Hillare had won the monday town hall, MSNBC never would have even floated the idea

of the debate. Funny how that works. they are tying themselves into pretzels to give Hillary another shot.

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. Bernie's PRINCIPLED (you know that) -

He's not going to break the rules. Even if DWS sanctioned the MSNBC Queen Hillary debate, Bernie should have a previous engagement. Why should he help HRH? No. Don't give an inch...she'll take a mile.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Spitfire of ATJ]

24. Is DWS going to now get blamed by the establishment for Hillary's loss???`

[Proserpina]

30. Oh, I do hope so

If ever someone needed to spend more time with her family it's DWS

[Warren DeMontague]

64. No, we will.

I'm gonna make a helmet out of a metal garbage can, that's what I'm gonna do.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

65. I picked out what I'm going to wear to caucus too.

[merrily]

67. Clearly, supporters of Sanders will be at fault if Hillary loses.

[Lordquinton]

85. That will be the new Meme

A conspiracy theory, if you will.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

87. But who's?

[orpupilofnature57]

26. Sense of Entitlement, owning MSM, and playing the victim was enough , until Bernie .

[SoapBox]

27. K & R, cali!

[mhatrw]

34. Why the bizarre "disagreement" between Clinton and her toady, DWS?

Here's why!

[blackspade]

36. No kidding.

[WillyT]

42. K & R !!!

[jalan48]

50. Poor Hillary-phucked up -----again.

[Arugula Latte]

60. She is clueless, arrogant, and she never learns.

[Larkspur]

62. Hillary is a worse campaigner than Dukakis nt

[cali]

72. Hillary is our Dukakis if she's the nominee

[Tarc]

73. Lol, Hillary IS strolling to the nomination

Split IA, Sanders takes NH, and obviously takes VT in March. Then, it will be all Hill country til the convention.

It was a valiant try though, guys.

[Hiraeth]

77. NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO *stroll* TO A NOMINATION. ALL SHOULD BE OPEN TO A FULL

EXAMINATION AND INSPECTION BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I QUESTION THOSE WHO ARE UNWILLING TO BE TESTED BY THE FIRE.

[Tarc]

81. Fix your capslock, Mr./Ms. Shoutypants

There is ample time for "examination and inspection", it is called "the primary". The point is, Clinton is comfortably ahead.

[Hiraeth]

83. uhm -

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[KingCharlemagne]

78. Her campaign is strolling all right . . . right off the

edge of a cliff. only question remaining is how long it will take for those around her to start abandoning ship . . . Just like in 2008.

[Lordquinton]

86. Used to be that Sanders couldn't win anything

Now he takes the first three states.

Soon he'll be sweeping the nation, and somehow Hillary will still be the winner.

[Yupy]

76. The more obvious desperate things she throws, the more people will notice! Good for Bernie!

[Ivan Kaputski]

82. Arrogant from the top down oligarchy puppets with their coronation bullshit.

Democracy is about the common people. We should be the ones to choose the candidates, not some oligarchy stooges. This is about bottom up, not top down.