Pelosi dismisses portions of Sanders’s tax and health-care agenda: ‘It’s not going to happen’

[Cali_Democrat]

Pelosi dismisses portions of Sanders’s tax and health-care agenda: ‘It’s not going to happen’
By Paul Kane January 27 at 4:06 PM

BALTIMORE — House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) dismissed portions of Bernie Sanders’s agenda Wednesday, welcoming the Vermont senator’s energetic support for his presidential bid but declaring that some of his deeply liberal ideas were unrealistic.

Kicking off a three-day retreat of House Democrats in her childhood home town, Pelosi said that the party’s agenda would not include a call to raise taxes and would continue to embrace the Affordable Care Act that Democrats bitterly fought for in 2010. Pelosi’s remarks came two days after Sanders, in an Iowa town-hall gathering, explicitly endorsed higher taxes to fund a sweeping revision of health laws.

“We’re not running on any platform of raising taxes,” Pelosi told reporters inside the Hyatt Regency in Baltimore’s Inner Harbor, less than a mile from her childhood home. While the liberal House leader has remained publicly neutral in the Democratic primary process, Pelosi’s position echoed some of the themes that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton has hit on in trying to say that Sanders’s ideas, while appealing to liberals’ instincts, are out of touch in an era when Congress is so sharply divided.

She reiterated her previous remarks embracing Sanders’s surge in recent weeks — “God bless all the people who have gotten enthusiastic” — but stressed that Sanders needs to bring those voters into the Democratic fold in the November general election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/01/27/pelosi-dismisses-portions-of-sanderss-tax-and-health-care-agenda-saying-its-not-going-to-happen/

Pledging to raise taxes on the poor and middle class is political suicide. Pelosi knows this.

If Bernie can't convince Democrats to go along with single payer and raising taxes, how can he convince Republicans?

Bernie's entire agenda is a mirage.

[orpupilofnature57]

1. You mean " It's not on the table " Dissmisive until 2008 THAT happened, Retire Nancy .

[libdem4life]

13. This^^^^^^

[2pooped2pop]

17. yep. I quit supporting Pelosi when she said that.

[orpupilofnature57]

47. That sense of Entitlement condescending out, showed a lot of us where she was Really at .

[NurseJackie]

24. Bitter much? She's a smart woman ... she knows what she's doing.

Her critics should probably get used to the idea that she'll be around for many more years.

[cherokeeprogressive]

43. You are aware of what "not on the table" refers to, right?

[roguevalley]

46. she said this was her last time. Go home, Nancy. You made your zillions. we got this

[hrmjustin]

2. K&R!

[Gregorian]

3. Change is just so difficult, we can't do it. Wah wah.

And before even entertaining any possibility. That speaks volumes.

Why did we even bother going to the moon. We could have sat around and had all of that money to do other things with.

[99th_Monkey]

4. Of course Pelosi is saying that. Otherwise the optics wouldn't be so good for her

and all the other Democrats agree with Hillary that "it's just too hard" or "impossible" to achieve.

To admit "oh yes, it's possible, but we just haven't gotten around to it, because we're too busy
getting lobbied and getting our campaigns funded by big pharma and the drug companies. It just
wouldn't look too good.

[ejbr]

8. !!

[Paulie]

5. Got to keep that powder dry

[RobertEarl]

6. ACA resulted in an increase in tax

Pelosi has ran on that tax increase, so now she's a hypocrite?

[Matariki]

19. No shit. Along with a fine if you can't afford INSURANCE

these fuckers....

[Nanjeanne]

7. As I said in the previous Pelosi thread

I don't care who she supports and I have no idea what camp she is in - nor do I personally care. I make my own mind up and vote accordingly.

What I care very deeply about is the years and years that the Democratic Party has borrowed Republican talking points - and refused to STAND UP for things that once were core principles. I still think Biden was right when he said "it's Patriotic to pay taxes". And I still think that the taxes we pay are our commitment to the commons.

The Democrats are always playing defense. Why did they allow "pro choice" and "pro life" to be the way we identify. I have said for years it should always have been "pro choice" and "anti choice" - and finally I hear a few people say it. But to let Republicans co-opt "pro life" when nothing they truly stand for is "pro life" - is crazy.

Same thing with bigger and smaller government. Why just give in and give up. Why not talk about what role government really has and educate people on how government is good. Government programs work well - they help people - they improve our lives. It's a fallacy to believe that government is wasteful. In most cases, government beaurocracies are not as wasteful as many corporations - and much more efficient. Free market capitalism does not work without active government. Most of society's problems stem not from government but from the public sector (like poverty, pollution, healthcare). Freedoms are not restricted by government - we more likely face threats to our civil liberties in the workplace than in government . . . and on and on.

But the Third Way Democrats and the "no labels" crap and all that nonsense about every side does the same thing - have severely hurt our ability to move forward with a progressive agenda. Letting Republicans dictate the language we use is a big problem and we should be educating people about what our taxes do --- and SHOULD DO -- and we, as Democrats, should not be running from the word.

[ejbr]

11. ...

[Jarqui]

9. Real change will take a few casualties

Nancy has to be replaced as House leader anyway.

[libdem4life]

14. Yes.

[tecelote]

10. Ha! That's a good one.

So, you can save $5000 a year in insurance premiums if you pay $1.61 per month. That's $83.72 a year to save $5000 in health insurance premiums.

Who is going to say no?

Let's work with the truth here.

Obviously the establishment is so afraid of the voice of the people that they need to lie.

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Plus, we should add that Sanders is surging.

Finally, Americans are no longer buying what the establishment is selling.

[Odin2005]

12. NO WE CAN'T! NO WE CAN'T! NO WE CAN'T!

[Broward]

15. Just reinforces the need for a political revolution.

[libdem4life]

16. I'm a huge sports fan...can anyone here imagine how long a coach would have his job

even in the lowliest of schools if he came out before a tough game and told his squad they couldn't beat the other team...even if it was a likelihood? It would be preposterous.

Yet...our fearless leaders....of course it's not the same situation, but the same idea. Old saying: If you say you can, you can. If you say you can't, you can't.

[redstateblues]

22. Like if the coach tied 25 lb weights to their legs

and told them they could be undefeated if they just believed? Running on raising taxes is a losing proposition.

[libdem4life]

25. Your last sentence is malarkey...for shame. Raise taxes a little...plummet health care costs.

There is a difference. That is, if math is your thing. I think people end up with more in their pockets.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

31. Yea because people would much rather pay $100s in prems/mo. & $1000s in deductibles than...

...pay 2.2% more in tax for the middle class. And don't even try to worry me with the progressively higher rates because I don't care about those people's income problems.

[jillan]

18. Let her explain that to President Sanders.

[redstateblues]

20. Any Democrat that runs in the GE on raising taxes

will lose in a landslide. Good luck with that.

[libdem4life]

27. If only that were true...instead of just a little bit true. Now that is a Republican Talking Point.

Congrats.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

32. raising taxes on the rich?

not so much

[NurseJackie]

21. Pelosi is a realist.

Note to Jury: I simply stated that Pelosi is a realist. I did not say anything specific about any candidate or candidate's supporters. There was no insult, or broad-brush attack against anyone. This is just my opinion about why Pelosi would be thinking in such a way.

[DanTex]

23. Under the bus Pelosi!

[bvar22]

26. I used to love Pelosi when she was the sharp spoken LIBERAL from California.

But when she got the gavel and was offered a seat at the RICH MAN'S Table,
she got a face lift so extreme she couldn't blink for a year, took her seat at The Table,
and she never looked back.

[libdem4life]

28. Yep, lived in Sonoma County for years...even though extremely wealthy, people liked her.

More than DiFi, that's for sure.

[LiberalArkie]

30. Results

On Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:08 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I used to love Pelosi when she was the sharp spoken LIBERAL from California.
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"she got a face lift so extreme she couldn't blink for a year."

Do we really need to make fun of Pelosi's appearance? This is irrelevant to the subject and makes us look like misogynist right wingers.

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[bvar22]

34. Thanks, Jury.

I have a few "alert" fans.

[ScreamingMeemie]

36. I was on this jury, and I voted to hide. To keep it from "drama times."

I don't really know who you are or who you are planning to vote for. I simply agreed that you could (and should) have stated your dislike of Pelosi while leaving misogyny out of it. I just wanted to be a voice for those of us who don't play these games. Thanks.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

29. If it benefits people or holds people accountable for war crimes, it's not on the table. I'm not...

...surprised the 1%er Pelosi family is a bit leary of having to pay more taxes.

[tex-wyo-dem]

33. Nothing like saying "no we can't"...

some people have been in Washington way too long.

[DCBob]

35. Nancy probably knows better than anyone the political reality..

of trying to push legislation that raises taxes. It's political suicide and simply impossible given the current makeup of Congress.

[bowens43]

39. political suicide...yep thas all the establishment thinks about

time to toss here ass out with the rest of the entrenched so called democrats...

[DCBob]

41. You have no idea.

[TheProgressive]

37. Pelosi = Establishment

Out with the establishment, in with the progressives...!

[bowens43]

38. no we cant ! no we cant no we cant!!!!!

time to sweep house maybe time pelosi goes too....

[Jarqui]

40. Poll on Medicare for All

http://pnhp.org/blog/2015/12/17/kaiser-poll-58-of-americans-support-medicare-for-all/

As the presidential primaries inch closer and candidates begin to debate the intricacies of their platforms, a long-discussed health policy option has reemerged in debate between democratic candidates; the idea of creating a national health plan in which all Americans would get their insurance through an expanded, universal form of health insurance called Medicare-for-all. When asked their opinion, nearly 6 in 10 Americans (58 percent) say they favor the idea of Medicare-for-all, including 34 percent who say they strongly favor it. This is compared to 34 percent who say they oppose it, including 25 percent who strongly oppose it. Opinions vary widely by political party identification, with 8 in 10 Democrats (81 percent) and 6 in 10 independents (60 percent) saying they favor the idea, while 63 percent of Republicans say they oppose it.

....
At the same time, few Democrats say the issue will be the driving force behind their vote: just 5 percent of Democrats say that it will be the single most important factor in their presidential vote. A third of Democrats (34%) say it will be very important, but not the most important factor, while others say it will be one of many factors they will consider (36%) or that it won’t matter at all (5%). Future polls may explore the issue in greater depth.

Nancy, it's what 81% of your party prefers and what 58% of your country prefers.

[sadoldgirl]

42. This will be the song of most Dems

in Congress. Thus it's up to us, the people, to either
vote them out or to pressure them so much that they
will have to cave.

That is what Bernie calls the "political revolution".

They better not forget that their reelection happens
after the nomination!

[Joe the Revelator]

44. She can be replaced. Along with other 'democrats' who think like her.

[Dawson Leery]

45. Good. Raise taxes on the rich and short term capital gains.

Raise wages for everyone else! We need to raise the wages of the majority of people.

[orpupilofnature57]

48. Where have I heard that before the Campaign ?? Not in 2008, she was an agent of The Royal Scam .