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ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:11 AM Jan 2016

Sanders Pins His Iowa Hopes on Fickle Voting Bloc

When the history of Bernie Sanders' presidential bid is written for Iowa, one factor looms large: Did young people caucus for him, and where?

With polls showing Sanders locked in a tight race with Hillary Clinton, the Vermont senator expects he'll win the first-in-the-nation caucuses on Monday if there's a high turnout. If not, "we're going to be struggling,'' he said after a campaign stop Tuesday in Des Moines.

That's why Sanders's campaign has focused so intently on mobilizing students and other young people who overwhelmingly support him in polls over Clinton, the former secretary of state and Democratic front-runner. The Sanders campaign is even arranging to drive students to their home precincts, where their backing of Sanders can be more valuable than at their campuses.

"The youth vote is critical,'' said Tad Devine, a senior advisor for Sanders, the Vermont senator. "Without overwhelming support and strong turnout from young voters, we really don’t have a clear path to victory.''

Only 4 percent of eligible voters under age 30 participated in the 2012 presidential caucuses in Iowa, compared with 13 percent in 2008, when Barack Obama targeted young people and at least 30,000 supported him, according to the Center for Information & Research on Civic Learning and Engagement, a research group at Tufts University.


More at http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-27/sanders-pins-his-iowa-hopes-on-fickle-voting-bloc

Bernie Sanders is no Barack Obama. He's not going to turn out the youth vote like President Obama did in 2008.
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Sanders Pins His Iowa Hopes on Fickle Voting Bloc (Original Post) ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 OP
We'll see... The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #1
In 2008, the caucuses in Iowa was held on Jan 3. when students were on break. ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #4
They can caucus at their college. madaboutharry Jan 2016 #6
Yeah, but you can only win so much delegates at each site. ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #8
Yeah, that is true. madaboutharry Jan 2016 #9
Yep, this is why you see Hillary Clinton doing Town Halls in small towns. ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #10
They said today, Bernie's events are 1-4 times bigger than Barak's ViseGrip Jan 2016 #11
My my, your crystal ball is quite clear. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #2
Ah but their enthusiasm is an excellent motivator. AtomicKitten Jan 2016 #3
didnt even know there were cauceses in 2012. why would there be exept on the repub side? what are litlbilly Jan 2016 #5
There was a caucus in 2012 for Democrats. ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #7
That choice might have left a bit of an enthusiasm gap Mike__M Jan 2016 #26
Hillary must have her hopes on all of the male farmers! ViseGrip Jan 2016 #12
That's sexist! nt mhatrw Jan 2016 #13
Seven people in my office under 30. None are registered to vote. nt onehandle Jan 2016 #14
As if you would know.... AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #15
Came up in a group meeting. My boss asked. onehandle Jan 2016 #18
Cool story bro!! AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #21
That's seven Mike__M Jan 2016 #27
The energy behind Bernie is larger than Obama in 08 ram2008 Jan 2016 #16
Ridiculous reply title of the month. nt onehandle Jan 2016 #19
Fundraising seems to show this is the case ram2008 Jan 2016 #20
It's a defense mechanism. frylock Jan 2016 #24
Hoping certain people won't vote, just like the GOP whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #17
Go to the polls? Not likely. They won't even get off my lawn! Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #22
FUD heah! Get yer FUD! frylock Jan 2016 #23
Bernie has many young supporters. He also has many old ones. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #25
who hoooo lets hope young people don't vote! restorefreedom Jan 2016 #28
I never knew we had so many psychics on this board. bunnies Jan 2016 #29
Clinton Pins Her Iowa Hopes on Fickle Voting Bloc whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #30

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
4. In 2008, the caucuses in Iowa was held on Jan 3. when students were on break.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:15 AM
Jan 2016

This time, the students are back in school. So, it'll be harder for them to vote at their home sites.

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
8. Yeah, but you can only win so much delegates at each site.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:38 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie support is concentrated at college towns, while Clinton'said is all over the state.

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
10. Yep, this is why you see Hillary Clinton doing Town Halls in small towns.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:45 AM
Jan 2016

Big rallies in college town is all good, but the rural counties and small towns have a lot of delegates spread across the state. So Bernie might get 10s of thousands of votes around college towns, but Clinton will drive up her margins in Western Iowa and in the small communities across the state. It's all about the delegate math.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
2. My my, your crystal ball is quite clear.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jan 2016

Mine always seems a great deal fuzzier.

Or perhaps your crystal ball is a mirage?

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
5. didnt even know there were cauceses in 2012. why would there be exept on the repub side? what are
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:26 AM
Jan 2016

you even talking about?

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
16. The energy behind Bernie is larger than Obama in 08
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:23 AM
Jan 2016

Also the power of social media is magnitudes larger than in 08. In 2008 Twitter barely existed, no snapchat, no insta, Facebook was still in its youth, Reddit as well. It's a whole different ballgame now.

Bernie is the conclusion to the hopes Obama gave in 08; he will match or increase youth turnout.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
20. Fundraising seems to show this is the case
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:27 AM
Jan 2016

Polling and the amount of people at rallies(more than O) gives further evidence. Why does it seem ridiculous to you?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
25. Bernie has many young supporters. He also has many old ones.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jan 2016

Me, for example. It should not be assumed that all of his supporters are college students.

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