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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:31 PM Jan 2016

The Anti-Sanders ad the 4th estate members argue is pro-Bernie takes dishonesty to new heights

Bernie is doing well with liberal voters and large parts of Iowa are NOT liberal. The more liberal areas are around the universities.

The over the top liberal ad saying free, completely free is to turn off non liberal Democrats, Independents, and Republicans who can vote in an OPEN primary.

The NY Times, MSNBC, Maddow and anybody else involved in perpetrating this obvious lie are beyond disgusting because no one could possibly be so stupid as to believe the b.s. they are writing.

Young adults are really getting an education this election cycle. When they write the history books on the downfall of this country - because that is where we are headed - I hope they reserve a special section just for the role the corrupt 4th estate played in our downfall (and I hope they list names). That's a hell of a legacy to give your descendants. Won't that make them proud.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/25/bernie-sanders-a-target-of-ads-by-republican-donor/

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/iowa-racially-homogeneous-but-politically-diverse/

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PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
1. If I hadn't heard of Sanders and I saw that ad, I'll tell you what...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:36 PM
Jan 2016

I don't like Wall Street and big insurance companies very much, and since the ad mentions them, I would get online and look up Bernie. I'd find out what his platform actually is, and then...

I'd caucus for him, because I'd find myself AGREEING with all his positions.

I think this baby's gonna backfire. The Wall St. guys who thought it up are victims of overthink. Or maybe group think. Or (sorry but I absolutely LOVE my rat! I think it's hilarious) maybe RAT-THINK.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
5. I think it is going to backfire then.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jan 2016

Because if the idea is to help Sanders beat Clinton in the primaries because he'd be easier to beat, I think they are wrong. I genuinely believe that Sanders is more electable than Clinton in the general election, because among independents Clinton is not well liked. Or trusted.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
6. Fair enough. I'm just pointing out that the ad is, quite clearly, intended to sway people towards
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:12 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie. The GOP is good at attack ads, when they accuse liberals of raising taxes, they don't show images of rich people in mansions and wall street board rooms, they show images of working-class people. And the OP is claiming that the media is somehow being dishonest by pointing this out.

But, yeah, if Bernie is more electable, then they have miscalculated.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
3. That ad is very obviously intended to be pro-Bernie. Have you even seen it?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:02 AM
Jan 2016

It's not some secret tactic, it's been used before. The ad says Bernie wants to tax rich people, to pay for healthcare and education. And then in the background there are some smug looking rich people in front of a big mansion.

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