2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders recent lashing out is a sign that the PPP poll is accurate.
And it could be close to over for Sanders if he loses IA.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)gyroscope
(1,443 posts)is biased and not credible.
did they also make sure to poll only women 50 years of age and up?
Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)They see the writing on the wall
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)especially not blatantly biased ones. the voters get to decide elections, not the polls.
Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)And the ones showing him losing are blatantly biased.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)but of course those don't matter.
Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)gyroscope
(1,443 posts)than the one that relies almost exclusively on landlines.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Now he is "TURNING DIRTY."
My god. what is next.
KIDNAPPING CHILDREN?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Depends on which side of the fence you're looking from, I guess
Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)The dirty stuff coming from campaigns has been completely one sided.
Sanders campaign involved in data theft.
Sanders campaign sends out misleading flyers.
Sanders campaign impersonates union members to access other members.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I am appalled at the depths to which the Sanders campaign supporters will sink. How could I have been so blind?
Somebody used a logo inappropriately on an otherwise true statement. That person should be send to the stocks immediately.
Fire the person who tapped into data and investigate their IT staff!...Oh, he got fired.
Gosh a few supporters actually talked to union members. How dare they actually talk to voters. Jeezum like such things don;t happen every day in every campaign.
My God, in the realm of campaign dirty tricks that's not even Mickey Mouse level
cali
(114,904 posts)But things get tighter if he loses. He wins NH, but no one cares. Then NV is close or a Hillary win which is a Hillary win.
And then SC, Sanders gets smoked. Hillary builds a lead Bernie cannot overcome (just like 2008 with Hillary) and it's over.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)In 2000, George W. Bush lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Sen. John McCain.
In 1996, Bob Dole lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Pat Buchanan.
In 1988, George H.W. Bush lost the Iowa caucus to Bob Dole.
Also in 1988, Michael Dukakis lost in Iowa to Richard Gephardt before getting the Democratic nomination.
In 1984, Walter Mondale lost the Democratic New Hampshire primary to Gary Hart.
In 1980, Ronald Reagan lost in Iowa to George H.W. Bush.
In 1972, George McGovern lost in both Iowa and New Hampshire to Edmund Muskie before becoming the Democratic nominee.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)Vinca
(50,237 posts)In any case, if he happens to lose Iowa, all he has to do is go to New Hampshire and cry on camera and he'll be guaranteed a win there. LOL.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)A campaign is a big organization, Sanders isn't in charge of things like designing mailers and approaching union members. What's happening is, his staff is exhibiting some of the overzealousness that we see from Bernie supporters on the internet.
Could it possibly mean that his staff is worrying about Iowa, and crossing some lines they otherwise wouldn't? Sure. But then again, I'd bet that both campaigns worried about Iowa. It's close, and due to the silliness of the whole system, what happens in Iowa matters much more than the proportion of voters who live in Iowa. If Hillary loses, she'll get a bunch of bad press, renew the 2008 talk, invigorate Bernie, and set the stage for a longer primary than she wants. If Bernie loses, well he's in pretty bad shape after that.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)WTF?
LexVegas
(6,031 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Tends to happen in the homestretch of a tight race
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Not sure how aware people are aware, if they draw the same number of people out on caucus night, it could be a very big win for Clinton.