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Sanders recent lashing out is a sign that the PPP poll is accurate. (Original Post) Renew Deal Jan 2016 OP
............ bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #1
A poll that relies on landlines gyroscope Jan 2016 #2
Why do you think Sanders campaign has turned so dirty? Renew Deal Jan 2016 #4
Polls don't decide elections gyroscope Jan 2016 #13
True Renew Deal Jan 2016 #17
There are other polls showing him up by four gyroscope Jan 2016 #19
Those are the unbiased ones. Renew Deal Jan 2016 #21
less biased gyroscope Jan 2016 #22
First you claim he is "LASHING OUT." pangaia Jan 2016 #14
Both sides are equally "dirty" if you call this stuff dirty Armstead Jan 2016 #15
No, both sides aren't. Renew Deal Jan 2016 #18
Absolutely shocking Armstead Jan 2016 #24
Bernie will stay in whatever happens in Iowa. cali Jan 2016 #3
I agree Renew Deal Jan 2016 #6
A guy named Bill Clinton lost the Iowa primaries in NH and Iowa. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #5
What's the lashing out? I missed that. Cheese Sandwich Jan 2016 #7
Here you go Renew Deal Jan 2016 #23
I guess I missed the "lashing out." Vinca Jan 2016 #8
I don't think it's Sanders lashing out, I think it's his people doing it without his knowing. DanTex Jan 2016 #9
Lashing out???? pangaia Jan 2016 #10
His temperment alone shows he is nothing like Obama in '08. nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #11
They're both lashing out at each other Armstead Jan 2016 #12
Last couple of polls look really solid for Clinton. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #16
Are U series? No I thought not Vincardog Jan 2016 #20
 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
2. A poll that relies on landlines
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jan 2016

is biased and not credible.

did they also make sure to poll only women 50 years of age and up?

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
13. Polls don't decide elections
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jan 2016

especially not blatantly biased ones. the voters get to decide elections, not the polls.













pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. First you claim he is "LASHING OUT."
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jan 2016

Now he is "TURNING DIRTY."

My god. what is next.

KIDNAPPING CHILDREN?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
15. Both sides are equally "dirty" if you call this stuff dirty
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jan 2016

Depends on which side of the fence you're looking from, I guess

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
18. No, both sides aren't.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jan 2016

The dirty stuff coming from campaigns has been completely one sided.

Sanders campaign involved in data theft.
Sanders campaign sends out misleading flyers.
Sanders campaign impersonates union members to access other members.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
24. Absolutely shocking
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jan 2016

I am appalled at the depths to which the Sanders campaign supporters will sink. How could I have been so blind?

Somebody used a logo inappropriately on an otherwise true statement. That person should be send to the stocks immediately.

Fire the person who tapped into data and investigate their IT staff!...Oh, he got fired.

Gosh a few supporters actually talked to union members. How dare they actually talk to voters. Jeezum like such things don;t happen every day in every campaign.

My God, in the realm of campaign dirty tricks that's not even Mickey Mouse level

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
6. I agree
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:31 PM
Jan 2016

But things get tighter if he loses. He wins NH, but no one cares. Then NV is close or a Hillary win which is a Hillary win.

And then SC, Sanders gets smoked. Hillary builds a lead Bernie cannot overcome (just like 2008 with Hillary) and it's over.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
5. A guy named Bill Clinton lost the Iowa primaries in NH and Iowa.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:30 PM
Jan 2016

In 2000, George W. Bush lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Sen. John McCain.
In 1996, Bob Dole lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Pat Buchanan.
In 1988, George H.W. Bush lost the Iowa caucus to Bob Dole.
Also in 1988, Michael Dukakis lost in Iowa to Richard Gephardt before getting the Democratic nomination.
In 1984, Walter Mondale lost the Democratic New Hampshire primary to Gary Hart.
In 1980, Ronald Reagan lost in Iowa to George H.W. Bush.
In 1972, George McGovern lost in both Iowa and New Hampshire to Edmund Muskie before becoming the Democratic nominee.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
8. I guess I missed the "lashing out."
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:34 PM
Jan 2016

In any case, if he happens to lose Iowa, all he has to do is go to New Hampshire and cry on camera and he'll be guaranteed a win there. LOL.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. I don't think it's Sanders lashing out, I think it's his people doing it without his knowing.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jan 2016

A campaign is a big organization, Sanders isn't in charge of things like designing mailers and approaching union members. What's happening is, his staff is exhibiting some of the overzealousness that we see from Bernie supporters on the internet.

Could it possibly mean that his staff is worrying about Iowa, and crossing some lines they otherwise wouldn't? Sure. But then again, I'd bet that both campaigns worried about Iowa. It's close, and due to the silliness of the whole system, what happens in Iowa matters much more than the proportion of voters who live in Iowa. If Hillary loses, she'll get a bunch of bad press, renew the 2008 talk, invigorate Bernie, and set the stage for a longer primary than she wants. If Bernie loses, well he's in pretty bad shape after that.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. Last couple of polls look really solid for Clinton.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jan 2016

Not sure how aware people are aware, if they draw the same number of people out on caucus night, it could be a very big win for Clinton.

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