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askew

(1,464 posts)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:09 PM Jan 2016

State Department to Withhold 22 Hillary Clinton Emails Entirely B/C They are Top Secret

BREAKING (@AP): State Department declares 22 emails on Hillary Clinton's account 'top secret'; won't release them.

From @AP: State Department now looking into whether Clinton emails were classified when they were sent.

This is the first time entire emails are being withheld.

This falls after the news that the State Dept is failing to meet their deadline for releasing Hillary's emails. Will only release 1,000 of the 9,000 that are due because they forgot to have them signed-off on by other agencies. State wants to release them February 29th after the first 4 states have voted and the Super Tuesday early voting has begun. Clearly, State is hoping Hillary has the nomination locked down before the next batch of bad email news has to be released.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-email-release-state-dept-miss-todays/story?id=36600533

For those who think this email scandal is over, they are dead wrong.

Edited to add full article by AP:
http://apne.ws/20yhIc5

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration confirmed for the first time Friday that Hillary Clinton's unsecured home server contained some of the U.S. government's most closely guarded secrets, censoring 22 emails with material demanding one of the highest levels of classification. The revelation comes just three days before the Iowa presidential nominating caucuses in which Clinton is a candidate.

The State Department will release its next batch of emails from Clinton's time as secretary of state later Friday.

But The Associated Press has learned seven email chains are being withheld in full because they contain information deemed to be "top secret." The 37 pages include messages recently described by a key intelligence official as concerning so-called "special access programs" — a highly restricted subset of classified material that could point to confidential sources or clandestine programs like drone strikes or government eavesdropping.

Department officials wouldn't describe the substance of the emails, or say if Clinton sent any herself. They also wouldn't disclose if any of the documents reflected information that was classified at the time of transmission, but indicated that the agency's Diplomatic Security and Intelligence and Research bureaus have begun looking into that question.


"The documents are being upgraded at the request of the intelligence community because they contain a category of top secret information," State Department spokesman John Kirby told the AP, describing the decision to withhold documents in full as "not unusual." That means they won't be published online with the rest of the documents, even with blacked-out boxes.

Clinton, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, has insisted she never sent or received information on her personal email account that was classified at the time. No emails released so far were stamped "CLASSIFIED" or "TOP SECRET," but reviewers previously had designated more than 1,000 messages at lower classification levels for public release. Friday's will be the first at the top secret level.

For those that Clinton only read, and didn't write or forward, she still would have been required to report classification slippages that she recognized.
But without classification markings, that may have been difficult, especially if the information was in the public domain.

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State Department to Withhold 22 Hillary Clinton Emails Entirely B/C They are Top Secret (Original Post) askew Jan 2016 OP
Seems as though they would prefer to lose the general rather than disappoint Hillary. merrily Jan 2016 #1
Yep, that's what I've said since the beginning. askew Jan 2016 #3
We need independents to vote Democratic to win the White House. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #14
The problem is that Hillary has tried to get out in front of this multiple times. askew Jan 2016 #16
I think you are right. The FBI is involved, for one thing. They are razorman Jan 2016 #20
Truly - these must have been deemed 'top secret' - only AFTER they passed through the home server... jonno99 Jan 2016 #2
With the State Dept finally launching an investigation, they are either waking up to reality askew Jan 2016 #4
This will dog her all year long. There's no getting around it. NightWatcher Jan 2016 #5
You think it is only republicans that are tired of this sort of thing? This entire jonno99 Jan 2016 #6
Yep, she created this mess and then made it worse by lying about it repeatedly. askew Jan 2016 #8
And the Hillary people will say that Bernie is unelectable NightWatcher Jan 2016 #15
Hillary = Genius. nt MadDAsHell Jan 2016 #7
YIKES: "The Obama administration confirmed....". This may be the end for Hill... nt Romulox Jan 2016 #9
Ugh, this thing is growing legs by the minute... Arazi Jan 2016 #10
This issue is no longer bull shit. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #11
Hmm.. is it the State Dept that will will say whether it was classified at time of transmission? Skwmom Jan 2016 #12
We're at the point where early state voters should vote for Bernie just IN CASE stillwaiting Jan 2016 #13
Or O'Malley. O'Malley is a viable candidate who has faced tough elections and has no askew Jan 2016 #17
Are we still supposed to believe that she's the more electable one? Broward Jan 2016 #18
I'm an O'Malley supporter who has been arguing since 2008 that Hillary is unelectable for a askew Jan 2016 #19

askew

(1,464 posts)
3. Yep, that's what I've said since the beginning.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jan 2016

Too many in the establishment are blind to Hillary's faults and just don't get that she is too damaged to win a general election. It's incredibly frustrating.

That's why it is so important that Bernie and O'Malley stay in the race as long as possible. This email story is going to get worse. There is still the results of the IG report, this new State Dept investigation, the FBI investigation and at least 2 Senate/House investigations. To think that this is going to be a nothingburger is incredibly naive on the part of Clinton supporters IMO.

I think the diehards think they can brazen through these investigations like they did with Bill's impeachment. The difference being people are going to be a lot less forgiving of Hillary playing fast and loose with national security than they were of Bill lying and not being able to control his libido.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
14. We need independents to vote Democratic to win the White House.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jan 2016

And, Hillary's 22 Top Secret emails could potentially pose a VERY serious problem with getting their support. Not to mention what else might be revealed.

Hillary needs to do everything she can to get out in front on this and have all of the emails released ASAP. Otherwise, voters in early states MUST not vote for her. It's way too risky at this point.

askew

(1,464 posts)
16. The problem is that Hillary has tried to get out in front of this multiple times.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jan 2016

She keeps making it worse because she lies almost every time she talks about it and then gets caught. I don't think she can fix this mess now.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
20. I think you are right. The FBI is involved, for one thing. They are
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jan 2016

very protective of their reputation for being by-the-book. Also, it appears that the administration may be getting ready to toss Mrs. Clinton overboard, since this seems to be the first time that the State Dept. has gone against her in all this.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
2. Truly - these must have been deemed 'top secret' - only AFTER they passed through the home server...
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:14 PM
Jan 2016

askew

(1,464 posts)
4. With the State Dept finally launching an investigation, they are either waking up to reality
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jan 2016

Or hoping they can muddle the water by launching a friendly "investigation" that clears Hillary of any wrongdoing.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. This will dog her all year long. There's no getting around it.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jan 2016

Republicans have been hating all things Clinton for 20 years. She will be harassed by the rw until she retires forever.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
6. You think it is only republicans that are tired of this sort of thing? This entire
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:24 PM
Jan 2016

email server debacle is of HRC's own making.

askew

(1,464 posts)
8. Yep, she created this mess and then made it worse by lying about it repeatedly.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016

She is still repeating the lie that she didn't receive or send anything marked classified. She knows that it doesn't matter if it is marked classified or not. She signed a non-disclosure agreement that stated she knew this.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
15. And the Hillary people will say that Bernie is unelectable
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jan 2016

One repuke prosecutor and she's in court the summer before the election.

The Hillary people say Bernie could never be elected but she and McCain lost to a black guy with the middle name "Hussein".

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
12. Hmm.. is it the State Dept that will will say whether it was classified at time of transmission?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jan 2016

If so is this a put this out there then put out we support her argument (though I don't think the State will have final say).


Department officials also said the agency's Diplomatic Security and Intelligence and Research bureaus will investigate whether any of the information was classified at the time of transmission, going to the heart of one of Clinton's primary defenses of her email practices.

Something just doesn't seem quite right about this....

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
13. We're at the point where early state voters should vote for Bernie just IN CASE
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jan 2016

the emails are truly damaging to Hillary. We might not be able to afford having her for a nominee, and it is unacceptable to risk having her as a nominee until the truth comes out. Fully.

Hillary should do everything she can to get these released NOW. Otherwise, voters in the early states should vote Bernie. There's way too much at stake here.

askew

(1,464 posts)
17. Or O'Malley. O'Malley is a viable candidate who has faced tough elections and has no
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jan 2016

Real skeletons in his closet. He'd be a safer bet than Hillary as well. Let Sanders and O'Malley duke it out for the nomination and let Hillary and her attorneys work through this email mess.

askew

(1,464 posts)
19. I'm an O'Malley supporter who has been arguing since 2008 that Hillary is unelectable for a
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

Host of reasons. This email scandal really seals the deal though.

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