2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThink of the Supreme Court, I am: David Brock, Clarence Thomas, Anita Hill, Citizens United, Hillary
What do all of those names and titles have in common?
A group calling themselves Citizens United helped get Clarence Thomas nominated AND confirmed to the USSC.
But his nomination was in jeopardy when Anita Hill was called to testify wrt sexual harassment which she endured at his hands that basically should have eliminated him from any consideration for that nomination.
Anita Hill instantly became the target of the most vicious, anti-women, angry Right Wing factions and their 'noise machine', after she testified under oath as she was ordered to do.
Iow, had it not been for the all out war waged on Anita Hill by the far right, led by David Brock who lied about and smeared a woman with an impeccable reputation until then, today we might not be saddled with that extremist, Clarence Thomas on the SC, who completed his obligation to those who put him there with the passage of their dream legislation, and the country's nightmare, the ruling with the Orwellian Title, Citizens United.
But that wasn't the first we heard of Right Wing Smear Monger, David Brock.
Brock also played a large role in the Impeachment of Bill Clinton!
Which brings me to Hillary Clinton!
As a Champion of Women and the woman who exposed the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy in which David Brock played a large role, surely SHE of all people, would not only avoid any association with such a 'Dark Actor' as they call such people in the UK, but do all she could to eliminate such destructive elements from our system of Government?
Brock, after enriching himself from his role as part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, slithered over to the Left where he appears to be recreating a similar model to the one he was so much a part of on the Right
These are the ENEMIES of Democracy.
So what would Hillary Clinton, Champion of Women, such as Anita Hill, who helped expose the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, have to do with such a person as David Brock?
Had you asked me a few months ago, I would have assumed she would have nothing to with such a vile human being.
But I would have been wrong.
Shamefully, Hillary Clinton is now closely aligned with David Brock.
Brock runs her Corporate Funded Super Pac and is now using it to continue to do what he does best, what he did to Anita Hill and Bill Clinton.
With her campaign's assistance and in her name, he is now doing it to Bernie Sanders for Hillary, what he did to us, to Anita Hill and Bill Clinton for the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.
As Sanders' spokesperson, Briggs, said last week: 'She should be ashamed' of this association with Brock. And he's not the only one!
Almost every vile attack on Bernie can be traced back to this Right Wing Smear monger.
Almost every lie told can also be traced back to him.
THIS is the epitome of all that is wrong with our system.
Brock, ironically part of what FACILITATED Citizens United, is USING it now to put his 'skills' to work on Hillary's behalf.
Iow, to smear yet another good human being, Bernie Sanders, who like Anita Hill, also has an impeccable reputation.
Shameful betrayal of all those who stood up on HER behalf against this vile smear monger.
We are constantly reminded to 'think of the SC' during elections season.
This election season we are thinking about it, more than ever before
Think about Citizens United, Clarence Thomas, David Brock and Anita Hill and then think of Hillary Clinton and ask, why is she associated in ANY Way with this Right Wing smear monger, and why would she condone his Rovian tactics which so harmed women AND her husband, Bill Clinton, not to mention this country?
I don't know the answer to that.
Bernie Sanders doesn't either he has stated.
I do know that this is one more reason why I support Bernie Sanders.
Because of the Supreme Court!
H2O Man
(73,524 posts)Thank you!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)And you're not in it.
(stolen from George Carlin)
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I'd like to know how Hillary can explain why she has this relationship with David Brock, or any of her supporters.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Or defend it. So much is explained away. This imo, cannot be explained away.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)We're just expected to ignore it. Don't look behind the curtain.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)we are stupid enough to be bulled into accepting the unacceptable, but they are wrong.
Using Republicans to scare Dems into accipeting garbage like this, isn't working as well as it used to.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Brock's motivation for the alliance is simple - he's a whore and he sold his questionable talents to the highest bidder.
Hillary's explanation - not quite as clear. I have some ideas but in the interest of not having my post hidden I'll refrain from discussing them here. It's probably the same thing, she had the dough and she wanted him to STFU.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)hire Dick Morris eg, why are they so close to the Bushes?
I was pretty blind to a lot of things when I was fighting, on their behalf against Brock's lies.
But it's been a long time since then and my opinion is that slime like Brock are simply Propandists and 'Hit Men' for the Powerful.
It's hard to get inside the thinking of those who ARE among the powerful, or working to get there, as the Clintons seemed to be.
But as best as I can, I believe that in the rarefied atmosphere they now live in, hiring Brock, Morris eg, is simply a 'pragmatic' decision. He's a tool they believe who like Rove does for the Repubs, can do for the Dems, destroy the opposition any way possible so long as you pay him well.
At the level on which they now operate, I don't believe Dem/Repub matters, nor imo, does it matter to Brock. Money and Power are what matters.
Keeping the appearance of two party system so the little people don't realize the total takeover of both parties by Corporate powers has already happened.
Who wins, Dems/Repubs is of no consequence to the powerful anymore, so long as the candidates can be trusted to protect their interests.
The Repubs smear monger/hit man position is taken,, so Brock has found a niche in the other party
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,328 posts)Thanks for the thread, sabrina.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I guess I won't be voting for David Brock then.
Thanks, Sabrina.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)in our Party.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)I have no respect for her because of crap like this.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)most supportive friends without a second thought. So that alone says a lot about issues of trust.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Her pole star is "what's in it for me (and my owners)?"
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)insinuating, hiding behind anonymity whenever some unethical publication would take his garbage, look what just came out re Hillary.
What Brock was trying to push to try to smear Bernie with, trivia all of it, pales compared to what has just hit her campaign.
I never talking about her emails, I could have posted thread after thread with some pretty devastating information about that, but unlike some of her supporters, I didn't want to talk about something that was at the time, still under investigation with no real facts other than it was bad judgement, to report.
But now, after a week of nasty attacks on Bernie, do we have to take the high road when Brock and her other attack dogs will ignore the decency of other people and continue with his hate campaign against Bernie and his supporters with Hillary's approval?
Bernie has. But he's a way better person than I am. So I'll have to think about that.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)(to cure the 1%ers) or actually enslaved by Goldman Sachs, and there will be War Forever Everywhere, but we will have the SCOTUS! Yay!" is not what I call an inspiring campaign slogan.
And I agree, sabrina, as I always seem to.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)apologized, and tried to make clear his crimes. I'm not sure I'd totally trust him, but I don't think there is a secret conspiracy here. He has switched sides and has hitched his wagon to Hillary. People ought to be able to admit mistakes and see the light, no?
http://www.amazon.com/The-Republican-Noise-Machine-Right-Wing/dp/B000FVQV16 (This is the only one of all these books I have read. It wasn't well written, but I learned a lot. He lays out the right wing methods and strategies for all to see. Everything we need to know to defeat the RW is included in this book.)
http://www.amazon.com/The-Fox-Effect-Network-Propaganda/dp/0307279588/ref=pd_sim_14_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=417ACK8m7vL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR103%2C160_&refRID=1VJKBVZSBFMKG535CS3C
http://www.amazon.com/Blinded-Right-The-Conscience-Ex-Conservative/dp/1400047285/ref=pd_sim_14_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=51J6TG8P1PL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR104%2C160_&refRID=1DJX8RHKAZJ4VEAH88TB
http://www.amazon.com/The-Benghazi-Hoax-David-Brock/dp/1493681052/ref=pd_sim_14_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=51HPJxRigNL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR105%2C160_&refRID=0J2ZMY2H06970JRD4VR5
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)financal bridgs on the Right, he wormed his way over to the left, no doubt he had offers, from the Third Way Wing of the party, who always admired Rove, dreaming no doubt of the Dem Party having its very own, genuine Right Wing smear monger who they paid a lot of money to, to set him up as if WE need the likes of this snake in our party
He apologized for profit.
And if anyone had any doubts as to what his role was to be in the 'New Dem' party, those doubts have been erased.
Trust him? Stop paying him the millions he's being paid to turn this party into Repub Lite complete with its own Left Bashing Rove imitation, let the Right offer him the same millions, THAT is how you will know whether to trust him or not.
Those 'apologies' made him a fortune, but they didn't fool those of us who have a tendency to prefer people with ethics who don't LIE about decent people like Sanders for money, as he did about Anita Hill, for money.
Will he apologize to Bernie, who is deeply disturbed by his shameful lies about Bernie's character and patriotism, ten years from now when he thinks it might profit him then?
Who knows, who cares, the man is slime, the propaganda arm of the Corporate State, or part of it, left, right, they don't care about such things. But every Corporate State needs its propagandists, and that is ALL he is.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)ancianita
(36,009 posts)wash off and it's another example of Hill's and Bill's insecurity about beating the Republicans in any tough-guy contest -- this time, the insecurity is, as it was with Obama, over clean campaigning.
Last time it was Bill's "We can be even tougher on crime than Repubs!" back in the 90's, now succumbing to Brock's old paymasters' fearmonger mindset.
Thank you for the history review. Context is everything.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)everything that Clinton took. I wondered was Morris, who hated Hillary from what I've read, a plant also.
Brock seems to be 'blinded by the money' and certainly is without any kind of morality. Anyone who was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, only has to look at the lies he has told, the sneaky, cowardly attempt to anonymously 'plant' smears against Sanders in the press.
If he was doing it for Bernie, which would NEVER HAPPEN as Bernie is way too ethical a person to have anything to do with such a slimy character, I would not be a supporter if Bernie did not condemn it. Despite the dismissive attitude towards principles and morals we so often see, I am of the opinion that they are worth gold and no amount of Corp cash can buy them.
ancianita
(36,009 posts)strategy. The old "shame on you" speech will be forthcoming.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)with someone who epitomizes everything that is wrong with our rigged system. These deceiving political operatives have cost this country many good people in office. Now we know about them, but back when people had nothing but the media to inform them, they got away with what should be criminal actions that so influence our elections.
DC needs to be thoroughly cleaned out of the all the lobbyists, smear mongers et al, who now have more power over our government that we do.
ancianita
(36,009 posts)Governance should be a calling or a duty, not a money making opportunity. Sounding pretty wingnutty there, but seriously.
I join with people who not only feel outraged but outrun by people who betrayed our trust. They are not "the government." They are elected officials and their appointees.
You're right. We know them now. But the constant monitoring is our undue burden of a corrupt system.
No Grifter Politics
DJ13
(23,671 posts)She should be ashamed.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)'mistake' when it looks like it might cost you an election'. Or anyone even remotely as vile as David Brock or anyone who in any way finds it offensive that this smear monger who is best known for his 'work' for the Far Right, is being brought into our party, would be if Hillary were to win.
He is a constant reminder of all that has gone wrong with our system.
I don't know how Hillary can USE this vile human being for what she appears to think will be her benefit, yet say she opposes Citizens United.
There's a lot I don't understand. So I go with what makes sense to me, which right now is Bernie Sanders.
olddots
(10,237 posts)when Anita Hill was getting rail roaded in the hearings .
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)vote is coming up, but then he goes right in and votes the wrong way so many times.
Why I didn't support him for president.