Seems like the Clinton camp has a long history of attacking Ann Selzer's Iowa Poll
I was wondering why we're seeing Clinton supporters attempting to discredit Ann Selzer's Iowa Poll. Some are posting misleading information. Selzer has been given an A+ rating by Nate Silver. A rating he's given only three times.
An article from Politico, in 2008--highlights how the Clinton camp (Mark Penn in particular) didn't appreciate Ann Selzer and her last Iowa Poll before the caucuses--that predicted that Barack Obama would handily win the Iowa caucuses due to strong support from Independents and first-time caucus goers.
Penn questioned Selzer's methods. Turns out, Selzer was incredibly accurate.
So, why are Clinton supporters AGAIN--in 2016--attempting to discredit or minimize The Iowa Poll? Could it be that they are afraid of what the results might be--and what they might mean, just as they were in 2008?
It's important to remember that Selzer dives deep with information she releases in this final Iowa Poll before the caucuses. Not only will she give us standard numbers, telling us where the race will be. She also will predict, based on her polling, how many Independents and first-time caucus goers will attend the Iowa caucuses.
Could it be that Hillary and her supporters are attempting to tamp down what this poll means, because they are afraid of what the numbers may show?
Very enlightening read about Mark Penn attempting to spin and discredit Selzer's final Iowa Poll before the 2008 caucuses.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pols-struggle-to-spin-final-iowa-polls
This is interesting too. Selzer talks about Judy Woodruff, using Clinton-camp talking points, trying to discredit her as well.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/selzer/
From the article:
"The interview starts with Woodruff questioning the methodology of Selzer’s Jan. 1 poll for the Des Moines Register, as Mark Penn, chief strategist for Hillary Clinton, had in a widely circulated email memo.
Woodruff: Today’s Iowa poll, it’s out. You’re assuming that 60 percent of the voters in the Democratic caucuses will be first-time caucus attendees. How did you assume that? Why did you assume it?
Selzer: Well, actually, I assumed nothing. That’s what my data told me. We put our method in place, and we let the voters speak to us.
As Selzer speaks, the camera zooms in close, about the most dramatic shot employed by public television news, until you’re staring directly into the auburn-framed face challenging the conventional wisdom of a Clinton dynasty.
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Notice the http PBS tag.
Only 200 at most showed up for the event.
Potemkin Village is more accurate than astro turfing in this case
Sorta like what Enron did
In 1998, the energy services company Enron built and maintained a fake trading floor on the 6th story of its downtown Houston headquarters. The trading floor was used to impress Wall Street analysts attending Enron's annual shareholders meeting and even included rehearsals conducted by Enron executives Kenneth Lay and Jeffrey Skilling
Bill playing Golf with Kenneth Lay
from NBC news it says:
Enron did surprisingly well during the Clinton administration netting $1.2 Billion in Government loans
Clinton and Enron
http://talking_points.tripod.com/enron/id9.html
That's just hillary*ous!
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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #9)
tensions are high right now and the caucuses are about to happen.
We're all a little snarky right now, for sure. 
This poll then the caucus on monday...the tension is getting thick around here eh? 
